Matt (00:00.447)
Hello and welcome back to Popcorn and Plot Holes. is 2025, the year of the robots uprising. I am your robot overlord, Matt. It has begun.

Luciano (00:05.582)
A... It started! It has started!

Spencer (00:07.929)
the year of our robot

Spencer (00:14.553)
Pleasure to be here, fellow robot.

Matt (00:19.038)
Luciano, you have not introduced yourself.

Luciano (00:23.082)
I am sorry, it is a failure of politeness on my behalf.

Spencer (00:28.313)
What's the deal with humans? What a bunch of clowns.

Matt (00:28.329)
Great. That's settled on that bit. Welcome back, Chris. Chris resisted the robot uprising and he is no longer with us for this episode. He may come back next week, who knows. But in the meantime, we watched the Netflix smash hit. The greatest hit since that one with the rock and Ryan Reynolds.

Luciano (00:32.915)
Hahaha!

Spencer (00:36.441)
Hmm

Luciano (00:37.475)
You

Luciano (00:54.53)
red notice. Ugh.

Matt (00:55.455)
I was thinking Red One, I knew that wasn't right because that's a different rock vehicle on a different platform. We watched Carry On, the Jason Bateman villain vehicle?

Spencer (00:57.689)
That's the sequel.

Luciano (00:59.17)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:06.636)
vehicle. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is but it isn't, but it is.

Matt (01:10.673)
It is. The Sophia Carson vehicle.

Luciano (01:14.862)
Sure.

Spencer (01:15.801)
who she in the movie. Okay, yeah, this was her vehicle to the sun.

Luciano (01:17.494)
Nora, Nora.

Matt (01:17.827)
Nora. Yeah. Yeah. The Hank. Oh, that's Dean Norris.

Luciano (01:22.338)
The Hank vehicle, whatever the actor's name is.

Spencer (01:28.045)
Dean, the Dean N... that's what it is, the Dean Norris vehicle.

Luciano (01:28.078)
Didn't notice ya. There ya go.

Matt (01:30.195)
The Dean Norris vehicle. Okay, great, we got it. Yeah, so let's dive into it first down. We always do is we always say something nice in a movie. One nice thing each just in case the movie wasn't good. so let's start with something nice. Spencer, what do you got?

Spencer (01:47.769)
I'm still a robot. I think that the part I like most about this movie, I liked the premise of the movie and the hook got me. liked the hook, the premise of him having to put the earpiece in and he's like, you know, I like that kind of like thriller, suspenseful vibe where it's like, you know.

He's got to keep it on the down low from his boss, but he's being threatened on the, you know, I like movies like that. I know there's other movies like that. None's coming, maybe like any coming to mind, like phone booth, Colin Farrell vehicle, like that kind of, uh, uh,

Matt (02:28.318)
Yeah.

Luciano (02:33.294)
Even collateral, it's like a tense thing where there's like the...

Spencer (02:34.947)
kind of yeah, collateral, the...

Matt (02:38.407)
like that diehard 3 kind of did that yeah well good because you shouldn't have if you wanted to watch this movie

Spencer (02:40.313)
What is Die Hard? I've never heard of this. I was just saying how original this movie was.

Luciano (02:45.57)
Wait, that... Do you mean the Jeremy Irons one? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. I hate that movie. Why is it always Jeremy... Why is it always Jeremy Irons that ends up in this?

Spencer (02:50.263)
Yeah, somebody had fun.

Matt (02:51.231)
Yeah, he sends them around on a little quest.

Spencer (02:54.593)
Wait, what? As I was going to say dives, met a man with seven wives. Each wife had seven cats, each cat had seven kittens. Kittens, cats, sacks, and wives. How many were going to say dives? How many were going to say dives, Luciano? One! He had just one, motherfuckin'! One, just a fuckin' guy! But I've never heard of Die Hard. Yeah, I liked that. So, it was cool.

Matt (02:59.199)
Thank you.

Luciano (03:12.418)
Yeah.

Luciano (03:24.278)
If only it had remained with the thrill, nevermind, this is later. Yeah. My favorite scene of this movie, that actually really enjoyed it because it was unexpected. It was the fight scene in the car between the LAPD woman, Elena, I think it's her name and the fake agent, whatever his face is, Walcott, Lescott. There you go.

Spencer (03:26.429)
We'll get you this is positive

Matt (03:27.315)
fine. We'll get there. Positive time. Luciano, be positive.

Matt (03:51.816)
All caught.

Luciano (03:53.934)
I liked like they kept like the shit happening around the car sort of like going completely mayhem and them like with like really like calm music playing in the background they're beating the shit out of each other and she was a super badass in that scene too. I really enjoyed that scene. Yes, because it was very it's a very good scene very like yeah but it was so like

Spencer (04:11.511)
It did stand out. It stood out quite a bit. Like it was like.

Matt (04:15.623)
It felt like they, they use a lot of their budget to make that one cool action sequence.

Spencer (04:19.353)
Yeah, it was like.

Luciano (04:22.931)
unlike the rest of the movie scenes too, right?

Spencer (04:24.515)
Yeah.

I thought that movie that scene was cool, but it was like in my it like really did not fit it felt like for like three minutes it became like a Kingsman movie You know it was like I'm tearing Eggerton do the funny But you know just like pictures like pop rock movie where it's like yeah, let's go dude learning there's like gun shooting everywhere every day like it felt like

Luciano (04:35.808)
Another. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Yeah.

Luciano (04:48.172)
Yeah. No, felt like a, like a foreign, like the scene was a foreigner in this movie. Yeah.

Spencer (04:52.929)
Yeah, like if you like watch the like opening third of this movie and then you were like out of context, watch that scene. You'd like, that's not from this movie. But it was cool.

Luciano (04:59.8)
That's not the same movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was a very fun movie. Very fun scene. Yeah.

Matt (05:07.101)
That's your answer, you're sticking to it. Great.

Luciano (05:08.995)
Yes.

Spencer (05:12.099)
Hey, what about you, Matt?

Matt (05:14.015)
What about me? Yeah, no, you guys definitely didn't take all the things that could possibly be an answer. No.

Spencer (05:17.849)
Definitely not.

Luciano (05:19.618)
No, definitely didn't, yeah.

Matt (05:24.735)
I I Think this was the no, this is actually this is good. That's fine I think this was actually the perfect role for Jason Bateman to be a villain it's one where it's more him talking and manipulated with his words and social engineering all that stuff and Like less about his physicality like not say he's not in shape but like it would be wouldn't be it wouldn't have been very believable if he was running around and shooting people and fighting and all that stuff and

Spencer (05:27.13)
boy.

Luciano (05:38.55)
Yeah, yeah.

Matt (05:53.651)
He was very effective talking to Ethan and getting him to do stuff and manipulating the situation at all times.

Spencer (06:00.899)
I would say though, there has been a big uprising on geriatric action heroes with John Wick and that nobody with Bob Odenkirk. old man shooting people is a new genre in itself.

Matt (06:12.347)
Yeah, but-

Well that's fair. It is, but I-

Luciano (06:17.774)
To me the surprising bit was Jason Bateman as a villain because to me he is Michael Bluth, but

Spencer (06:24.353)
Yeah, I mean, it definitely took a second to like, you know, not to stop expecting a sarcastic jab. You know, we know like, like, he's like, I can't put the bomb is well, what can you do? You know, you know, you sound like my ex wife the way you're running. It's like, just expecting like those kind of like sarcastic humors. then after you get used to it, you're like, he's actually good being like really serious. And he was really like no nonsense.

Luciano (06:31.116)
Get used to it?

Yeah, yeah.

Luciano (06:40.257)
Yeah, yeah.

Luciano (06:46.381)
Yeah.

Luciano (06:52.173)
Yeah?

Spencer (06:54.157)
which is like the opposite of his. And he was quite brutal too, which I liked.

Matt (06:55.389)
Yeah, exactly.

Luciano (06:56.75)
It was very believable. Normally when actors try to step out of their zone, you go like, okay, that doesn't work. It completely took me out of the movie. It wasn't the case here.

Spencer (07:11.765)
Well, I've watched I don't know about you guys I watched Ozark and he's Awesome in that he's and it's it's serious. He's fantastic in it, but it's not the same He's not really playing like a just straight-up bad guy. He's not a good he is a bad guy in the show, but it's like an You know, it's like a Understandable bad guy where it's like his point of view kind of like a Walter White kind of This is like straight-up villain, you know, and it was cool

Luciano (07:16.679)
that's right. I knew about it. I haven't watched it.

Luciano (07:24.685)
Right.

Luciano (07:32.803)
Right.

Yeah, I'd forgotten about Ozark, you're right. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Matt (07:35.611)
Yeah. This is sociopath villain, right? Like the guy like you took a man's husband and then told him he wouldn't die if he boarded a plane. But like, he wasn't getting off that plane alive, right? Like he boarded the plane with a package and they want to set it off. Yeah.

Spencer (07:38.829)
Yeah.

Spencer (07:48.577)
No, that was the plan.

Luciano (07:49.9)
Yeah, yeah.

Spencer (07:52.599)
I mean, I don't think any of them, I don't think Ethan would have survived either. Cause they don't, cause he's like, he doesn't hide. He knows his voice and he knows too much, you know?

Matt (07:57.417)
Probably not.

Matt (08:03.071)
Well, so this is, this kind of gets into, listen, the movie has some warts and one of the warts is, it is, there's a lot of things that happen that just don't, so basically the way I see it is the first half of the movie is really cool, it's really tense, it's way more of a thriller than I thought it would be, very little action, but it's very, the tension is high and you're like, damn, how's he gonna get out of this one, damn, how's he gonna solve this? And the second half of the movie, we get into the software, it doesn't make sense, like, you know,

Luciano (08:03.35)
Yeah, know. Nobody would have survived, yeah.

Luciano (08:21.068)
yeah.

Luciano (08:27.427)
Yeah.

Matt (08:32.415)
The Traveler, Jason Bateman's character, says to the Watcher, kill the girl. But like, why? Why at this point, at the point in the film where he's like, killer, he's still trying to escape the airport because the terminal they're in has been locked down. So why, like he just wants to the Watcher busy? Is that why he tells her to go kill her? Like it seems unnecessary to their...

Luciano (08:52.43)
Well, it's because it's because Ethan crossed him one too many times, right? And he thinks he's going to like because Ethan knows about him and he's going to have to go try and save her or whatever. to me, on that same point, to me, where the movie starts kind of losing the thriller aspect of it, not in full, but that's where it starts is when he decides to go look at and talk to Ethan face to face.

When he was making it, the watch, the, the, traveler, he was making it a point of like keeping away from him and just talking to him, like being mysterious and being unseen and all that stuff, which to me was just, you know, they can see what he's doing. Nevermind that Ethan is being an idiot every time. Like he tried to call nine one one. They clearly can see him. Now he does the thing on his watch and he still keeps it on top of the table just so we can see it.

Matt (09:19.273)
the washroom.

Luciano (09:45.792)
Even with that, like he was being very like, Holy shit, like you said, Matt, like, how is he going to get out of this? How is he going to foil this plan? And then he just goes and shows himself. Like, what the fuck? mean, I know it's because they got Jason Bateman and they have to show him, but it's kind of dumb because the secrecy of it and, you know, him just being a voice in his ear to me made a lot of the tension of it. And when they kind of confronted each other,

You put a face to the voice and I was like, okay. It's just this old dude.

Spencer (10:16.163)
site.

Matt (10:16.383)
How do you, well, sorry, Spencer, I was like, how do you unpack things that have to happen in movies because they're movies versus things that are stupid like that?

Luciano (10:23.628)
Logical?

Spencer (10:23.737)
well in the movie phone booth with uh... caldwell go back they don't show keepers otherland for the entire movie so i think the end i think they show at the end but i don't mind them showing him but that was a bit because he can afford to be like told the the guy and then he had to step in and kill the guy is not what he shows his face basic

Luciano (10:30.51)
There you go.

Matt (10:45.351)
Yes, he gave them the, he writes on the ticket in like the invisible ink and give them the description. So it seemed plausible, right? I agree with you Spencer. It's like, yeah, all right, but it seemed plausible because he got forced into killing a guy and now he knows what he looks like anyways.

Spencer (10:49.762)
Yeah.

Luciano (10:50.592)
Yeah. Right.

Spencer (11:00.267)
mean, realistically, there's no reason why Jason Bateman was even physically there. They had the security cameras, which is how they were watching him. So, but I guess he wanted to be on the ground in case what happened happened and he could get involved.

Luciano (11:06.421)
Exactly.

Matt (11:12.531)
Yeah, now you're getting to the core. If you're basically saying, hey, this movie shouldn't have been this movie by saying he shouldn't have been on the ground. So it's like, you have a lot of movie operate, right?

Spencer (11:16.737)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, no. I liked having him there. You know, whatever. That's like that's like probably the least of my like nitpicks. There's a whole lot more.

Luciano (11:27.086)
Yeah, it's not that's not the thing that I think that's where it started when they started like him. He talks to he comes to him while he's still trying to get this plan across a bunch of times and it goes talk to him in the bathroom and whatever and all that shit. And like it still works. And this. Yeah, I'm going to go there. So this is one of the main problems that I had with this movie. It's kind of what you were saying. It's like it's yeah, the stuff was happening and it was very tense in the beginning. It was very interesting, but it was also very convenient. Everything that happened, like all the stuff.

Like they were so, it was so easy for them to tap into the security of the airport and nobody noticed and they could just pick up on the.

Spencer (12:04.535)
Yeah, they hacked into the mainframe. What are you confused about?

Matt (12:06.911)
I feel like, listen, I'll say it, because it feels like, you ever watch those videos on Instagram where a guy reviews Star Wars and reviews it, like people review movies now, and it's like, you just tear apart everything instead of the whimsy take you away? I feel like to a little bit, you're just like, you're mad this movie isn't perfectly detailed and logical in the science, but like, movies aren't trying to do that? Yeah.

Luciano (12:20.653)
Yeah.

Spencer (12:29.975)
When would Luciano ever do that? When would Luciano ever say actually and fix?

Luciano (12:30.036)
It's... yeah, well, beyond that is just... we've said this before, sometimes like less is more, right? Don't try to show me what you're doing, just let it, let me fill in the blanks, but they do show it. And then I go like, fuck.

Matt (12:36.703)
Hmm.

Matt (12:43.785)
Sure. Right. Showed what? The guy. The guy can see the cameras. What do they show? Yeah.

Luciano (12:52.194)
No, that's fine. But like him pulling up Ethan's like he types like three letters in the keyboard and then all the guy's life shows up where he lives all that shit. It's not

Spencer (13:03.001)
What you think he doesn't have shortcuts? Luciano, listen, listen to yourself.

Matt (13:03.327)
with you.

Luciano (13:05.844)
I do, I do. I don't think he does. I don't think he has shortcuts, no.

Matt (13:08.563)
But what do you want to see in a movie?

Spencer (13:10.317)
Luciano wants a blank black screen with just audio is what he's telling me. Just leave it to the mystery. The imagination of the mind.

Luciano (13:18.164)
I honestly, it's a good question, man. I don't know. It's a, but it was like, how can I put this? It was like.

Matt (13:25.713)
It's cause you need to turn off your brain cause you know how that shit's supposed to work cause that's your job. And you-

Luciano (13:29.391)
Maybe, maybe.

Spencer (13:29.837)
Yeah, like I'm not in tech, I don't know any of that, and to me I'm like, whoa, buttons go brrr. Computers go whoosh.

Luciano (13:34.51)
But buttons go click click screens go wow yeah

Matt (13:38.367)
Because at least they had the decency of breaking into everybody's house and snooping around and pulling information, right? It wasn't just like they went straight to the dark web.

Luciano (13:43.33)
Fair, yeah, that's true. Like that was actually a good touch.

Spencer (13:49.357)
mean, although that's probably unnecessary nowadays. They go to his house and like, this guy's got a girlfriend. It's like, they could have looked up his Instagram file and found all the information they needed. They don't need to go into their house. But.

Luciano (13:49.685)
Yeah.

Luciano (14:00.224)
Also true. But I thought they had this plan obviously long in advance. They investigated Ethan's friend, I never remember his name, and they were going to snatch his family and all that stuff.

Matt (14:18.257)
His name was Jason.

Spencer (14:20.217)
I it was Han Solo?

Luciano (14:22.402)
Was it Jason? Okay. but like they were reliant on, for example, this one thing, he is going to be the one who's going to be on that particular machine. And there's no chance that he's going to be assigned to the particular machine that is like he, the watcher said, this one is facing ALX PD. So can't use that guy. The other guy's military. So we don't want to use that guy.

Matt (14:24.691)
Yeah, Hans Grupper.

Matt (14:51.399)
Are you mad that movies get made?

Spencer (14:54.009)
Are you listen, yeah Just yeah, let me take this Will hurt you Who what movie hurt you to the point where you can't enjoy a film? It's funny cuz Luciano is pointing out such the miners nitpicks when there are such huge nitpicks like gaping holes like Yeah, like I was gonna say the

Luciano (14:54.126)
When they're they're bad. Yeah, this isn't actually bad, but

Matt (14:59.273)
Go ahead, Spencer.

You

Luciano (15:04.142)
This movie no it doesn't it didn't

Matt (15:15.753)
Gaping, gaping holes. No, get there. Don't, we don't need a slow build, just fucking get there.

Luciano (15:15.906)
We're gonna get there. We're gonna get there.

Spencer (15:23.413)
all the parts that he's critiquing are my opinion the parts that were working like this movie did a good job of being like like as a viewer everybody does this as a viewer where that we know when they're watching the movie they're like you kind of go what would I do and this movie did a good job of every time he thought of something he should do he would actually kind of try it and then they would show how they were able to counter that so then you're like fuck he kind of has nothing he can do he's stuck and then all that like work all of sudden gets thrown out at a certain point of the movie where it just becomes

Luciano (15:27.231)
Hahaha!

Matt (15:30.021)
It's enough. Yeah.

Luciano (15:35.118)
Yeah, exactly.

Matt (15:39.273)
future.

Matt (15:44.927)
Shit. Yeah.

Luciano (15:47.031)
Yeah.

Spencer (15:53.685)
the

Luciano (15:56.534)
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah.

Matt (15:58.345)
We need to go to action.

Luciano (16:18.232)
All right, out.

Matt (16:18.281)
That's where it unravels. That's the part, right? I don't want to step on the plot hole because it's going to come up. But there are little things that aren't in the plot hole that still matter. One of the ones is how Jason Bateman dies at the end of the movie in the plane with the special sealable fridge. like, it's a great death. But it's like the entire plan.

Luciano (16:39.512)
I actually loved that death. It was very karmic.

Matt (16:46.247)
that happens there is completely idiotic. Not like a, yeah, maybe it'll work, but like, like the idea that he's gonna, because he has to be on the plane to diffuse the plane, but the plane has already left the gate, right? Like, why would you ever think that he's gonna be able to drive and get in the plane, right? That's the sort of thing where I'm just like.

Luciano (16:57.528)
Yeah.

Luciano (17:03.95)
That's what I mean. And those contrivances add up. That's what I'm saying. It started a little bit is fine. But even one that got explained later, because he was like, this is not mine when he puts the headphone in. And it turns out that the girl was part of the crew, which I thought it was a nice touch. But I was like, what if he hadn't checked his phone? Because he like...

Spencer (17:04.633)
Yeah, we're gonna get into a lot of that stuff, I think.

Matt (17:07.697)
Yeah. Yeah.

Luciano (17:32.834)
He might be at work, not checks his phone at all until it's time for lunch with Nora. Then you give him the thing, he goes like, whatever, puts it in the thing and never checks his phone until it's way too late. I'm saying, this is what I'm saying. It's one too many contrivances. That's my problem. It's not, no. It's not, the problem isn't with that one only. It's a bunch of stuff together. That's what I'm saying.

Matt (17:43.047)
What are you doing here?

Spencer (17:43.895)
What? Lucia? I-

If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bicycle!

Matt (17:51.497)
Like you

Matt (17:58.705)
No, but okay, maybe we will get on this topic because what you're doing is not, it's like you're mad about the big thing and you're just talking about little things that don't matter because the big thing is the problem.

Luciano (18:05.9)
It's me being me.

Spencer (18:11.033)
Yeah, yeah, there's so many more obvious points.

Luciano (18:13.038)
No, but they add up. I was already mad before I knew what was going to happen after.

Matt (18:16.319)
But these don't matter.

You're only mad about these things. Okay, sorry. You're mad at these things because you're you. But an audience person, a regular person, was only mad at those things because of how the second... Yes, exactly. And so picking on them because the movie's bad is just like, yeah, right, but the movie's bad. But like those aren't the problem. Those aren't the reason the movie's bad. The movie's bad.

Luciano (18:24.886)
Yes. Yeah. We've mentioned this before, right? With a good movie you excuse these things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Luciano (18:37.934)
I'll spoiler is spoiler alert for the end. I don't actually think this movie is that bad, but we'll see

Spencer (18:40.526)
Here.

Spencer (18:44.267)
Lucy, like a better example of what you're trying to say is the girl Nora at the end, the guy with a sniper rifle is told he can kill her and he's like, and then the whole movie he's been watching her with a sniper rifle and then he decides to walk into the airport to kill her and then she decides to walk out of the airport into a isolated parking lot to get away from him when she works in an airport.

Matt (18:44.691)
No.

Luciano (18:47.703)
Hmm.

Luciano (18:55.95)
Right.

Matt (19:04.489)
Yes.

Luciano (19:05.038)
That to me...

Luciano (19:11.521)
Yeah.

Matt (19:11.54)
Yes.

Spencer (19:13.389)
where she knows all the security guards.

Luciano (19:15.566)
and where she can go to a place where he can't reach. that...

Spencer (19:17.943)
Yeah, she can easily just walk behind a desk and so that is an issue. Not the fucking Linux goddamn short keys to open up a file on his computer.

Matt (19:18.312)
Yes.

Punch on the code. Yes.

Luciano (19:27.042)
Before that even, when he tells the watcher to kill her, right? Ethan is talking to her, trying to get her away. Why do they go to the only place? Ethan knows that they have a sniper or whatever. Why would they go to the front of the airport with all of those giant windows and wide open spaces that she can be shot at?

Why wouldn't he take her inside to like the restricted areas where a potential sniper can't get to? Right. But again, it adds up. Fuck you.

Matt (20:03.977)
Great point, Spencer.

Spencer (20:05.081)
Thank you. I will say, but like onto our point about the tonal shift of this movie, it's like that is best encompassed. actually watched this movie with my wife and her mother and her mother went to bed and didn't watch the whole thing. She was just like tired, whatever. So she left after like the first like quarter, third of the movie and the next word she's like, how the movie? And she's, was like, it was good. And she's like, what happened? And I'm like, well, the bad guy at the end brought a parachute and a nerve bomb onto the plane.

and he planned to blow it up and jump out of the plane but he was thrown in a fridge and she was like what happened in this movie between the start and the end I was just like yeah that's a yeah you're right it got it got pretty crazy

Luciano (20:38.894)
Yeah, that's it. It's a fair question.

Matt (20:39.081)
Hahaha

Matt (20:42.708)
Yeah.

Matt (20:49.405)
It's essentially when the car scene happens. everything up to the car scene is like, it's a, me I was very surprised there were no actions, I was expecting some. But it was like there's...

Luciano (20:49.486)
Yeah.

Spencer (20:52.888)
Yeah, yeah.

Luciano (20:53.869)
Yeah.

Luciano (20:59.628)
yeah yeah it was very it was very tense

Spencer (20:59.961)
It's like a tight thriller, not psychological thriller.

Matt (21:04.831)
Yeah, and it great. It was really tense. I'm like damn, I'm tense. I didn't expect this to happen. It was good. And then that card action happens. I'm feeling it for the first time. And then that action sequence happens and it's cool. And then it's just like, uh oh. They liked it. They got a taste and they liked it.

Luciano (21:08.685)
Yeah.

Spencer (21:09.773)
hunt things.

I'm feeling things with a Netflix movie? This is crazy!

Spencer (21:21.377)
boy. Yeah.

Luciano (21:23.678)
Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what it feels like. It's like, Ooh, this can have action too. I like it. Yeah.

Matt (21:27.088)
no. Yeah.

Spencer (21:28.953)
let's get his shirt off, put him in a t-shirt, make him do some running now. And we're one step towards turning into this, into a Mission Impossible movie. Which is what it felt like for the second half. And again, that's not a bad movie, but they set me up in the beginning to expect this. You know what I was expecting, and this is on me, is I expected him to outsmart the bad guy. You know? This was like a...

Luciano (21:48.469)
Exactly, yeah.

Matt (21:55.679)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (21:55.714)
That's what I did as well. Yeah.

Spencer (21:58.637)
chess match and it was a chess match at the beginning and he every move he made he was countered by the bad guy and then I thought there's gonna be some cooler moves and he kind of does switch the bags for a slightly larger bag of the same model and make so

Luciano (22:09.934)
I thought that was smart. That was one of the smartest things he did.

Spencer (22:15.191)
because he knew it wouldn't fit in the overhead compartment and then would get checked.

Luciano (22:18.25)
It wouldn't be, it could not be a carry on. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.

Spencer (22:21.177)
Why wasn't the carry on section begin with?

Matt (22:23.667)
Wait, so you dislike the little nitpicky things but you thought that was cool and not convenient? Fuck you, sir. On behalf of our audience, fuck you.

Spencer (22:28.025)
You thought that was... Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Luciano (22:30.9)
what it it was clever it was at least clever

Spencer (22:34.873)
here out with the other just to give you a taste of you i'm gonna pretend to be okay uh... he switched to for a slightly larger back at the head how would you know that they would let him keep it in his feet what if they let what the baggage above was actually lose the new to fit an extra slot to which bag whatever they let him carry it on his lap

Matt (22:35.61)
because you liked it.

Luciano (22:38.796)
Okay.

No, please stop, stop, stop, stop!

Luciano (22:55.63)
You know what the difference is? Is what you're saying makes no sense, but let's continue the conversation.

Matt (23:01.363)
You definitely could have stoned it underneath, but whatever.

Spencer (23:02.987)
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Luciano (23:03.502)
No, it's not a bus. You can't just throw it underneath. She needed a lot of wheels to be a bus though.

Spencer (23:06.805)
If my grandma had will she be a bus?

Matt (23:07.241)
There's spots for things underneath. have a couple little questions. They're not, they're not our patented third section questions. They're actually like actually rural questions. But I guess the first question I have is like, in general, most movies have gone out of the way in the last like decade or so to not name things or people or countries. Is it cool to shit on the Russians again?

Luciano (23:18.337)
Okay.

Luciano (23:29.889)
Right.

Spencer (23:32.279)
I think we're good for that right now.

Luciano (23:33.358)
I think it is. I also, I actually, I don't know how if, I think I like the fact that they use something that actually exists. The Novi Chalk thing is actually a thing, it's not something they made up for the movie. The nerve gas, it's an actual thing, yeah. No, I went to look for it after, because like that Wikipedia.

Matt (23:34.548)
Yeah.

Spencer (23:44.632)
What is the bomb?

Matt (23:46.537)
the nerve gas. Yeah.

Spencer (23:47.923)
okay, I didn't know that. Of course you know that. You're on a list. yeah, well now you're on a list. Yeah.

Matt (23:51.807)
So then I... And now it's on a list.

Luciano (23:56.367)
The Wikipedia page that she looks at, was like, that looks like an actual Wikipedia page, not a bullshit one made for movies, and it is.

Matt (24:01.853)
Right. So I guess then maybe it's okay because it's a real thing so you're not shitting on the Russians, this just happens to be a thing that was made by Russians.

Luciano (24:08.704)
Yeah, and apparently it was what was used to kill Alexander whatever his face is the guy Yes Navalny, yeah, he died on his own. He stabbed himself in the back 17 times Yeah, so I I think it's I don't think it's the Russians like is in the whole country, but it is like Russian

Spencer (24:14.573)
OXANDER THE GREAT?

Matt (24:14.633)
He didn't get killed. He died on his own. Navalny or... Yeah.

Spencer (24:18.669)
No, not really. He died on his... He fell on four bullets!

Matt (24:22.655)
He had a weak heart because there's a hole in it from a bullet.

Spencer (24:28.504)
Yeah.

Luciano (24:38.69)
Well, in this case, the nerve gas was made by the government. fair enough. Yeah.

Matt (24:38.941)
Right? Sure, but it's a real thing. You're not—but it's not like back in the day where that'd be like, you know, it's just—yeah. Or like, there's a big war going on in, I don't know, random Colombian country.

Luciano (24:46.668)
This is Sovietium.

Luciano (24:57.238)
Right. And the Russian, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Spencer (24:59.011)
Moldakistan, they just make up a country.

Matt (25:00.669)
Yeah.

Spencer (25:04.643)
This communist nerve gas.

Matt (25:04.947)
okay, that's was a cunt, yeah.

Luciano (25:09.747)
And it's made with the eyeballs of American babies. That's why they need to, yeah.

Matt (25:13.94)
That makes sense. That's why it's poison. Another question I have, it's a real question. Is this the deadliest potential nerve gas attack since the rock?

Spencer (25:14.376)
Made with Lenin's blood.

Spencer (25:31.609)
Ooh. Wasn't the rock like a, like it would have been like a huge, like a, not worldwide. I don't remember. Was it like a city that would have been?

Matt (25:32.753)
Is that like, cause that's like, you know.

Luciano (25:32.99)
Matt (25:41.119)
Because they would have launched the missiles, right, and dispersed it, like, in the air, just like... No, but, well, I guess, but, like, it seems like the bomb would have dispersed it, like, if you let it off in the airport, would have killed everybody in the airport, right? Like, they were using it to blow up the plane. Yeah.

Spencer (25:44.918)
Yeah, this is just one plane.

Luciano (25:53.74)
Yeah, because it would get probably would get into the vent and right. It might have been bluffing to that there is that.

Spencer (25:57.081)
Was he bluffing?

He didn't seem like the suicidal bop. He's doing it for money. What is blowing up the airport, him.

Matt (26:07.423)
That's a great question. I mean, maybe he had plan if that happened.

Spencer (26:13.049)
He had a fridge with him. Then he can go inside and blow it up on the outside.

Luciano (26:15.79)
If you go inside. Yeah, it was in that backpack the girl left him. There was a portable fridge in there.

Matt (26:16.191)
A different fridge.

Spencer (26:22.638)
Ha

Matt (26:24.745)
Listen, if it's good enough for Indiana Jones, it's gotta stop nerve gases.

Luciano (26:27.155)
no. you had to go there.

Spencer (26:27.161)
I'm picturing CGI moles or whatever the fuck that movie started with.

Matt (26:32.447)
Yep Yeah No, but I was just curious cuz like I can't like I'm certain there's been other action films that have used nerve gases but like not one that like Generally, that's just like there's a nerve gas like in 24 all the time. like There's a nerve gas that's gonna be deployed or a nuke and blah blah blah But then go into the detail of like how deadly it is and how much is gonna fuck people up right? Like they do cover that in the rock

Luciano (26:35.975)
no, yeah. Yeah.

Luciano (26:51.435)
Right, right.

Luciano (26:57.078)
And then in this one, they explain exactly what happens, which is, yeah.

Matt (26:59.827)
and they go right into this, yeah. And you don't get to see it, which is, cool, I thought I didn't need to see Jason Bateman melt down, but I was just curious, because I couldn't think of another one since the rock, that's like fucking.

Luciano (27:03.926)
Yeah, I didn't have to see it, no.

Spencer (27:11.629)
You guys remember the movie? I just had a blast from the fat past. You remember the movie Chill Factor? You guys ever see that movie? It's Cuba Gooding Jr. and Skeet Ulrich.

Matt (27:12.511)
30 years?

Luciano (27:18.444)
No.

Matt (27:19.211)
rings a bell.

Luciano (27:21.848)
Don't think I've watched it.

Matt (27:26.783)
Yes, skeet, that's it, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Luciano (27:27.15)
Jesus.

Spencer (27:28.503)
Yeah, that one has a biological weapon.

Matt (27:32.841)
But it's not the same, right?

Luciano (27:34.41)
I'm trying to think of other movies where the threat isn't because like if you look at the eighties, it's always nukes always eighties and nineties is always nukes.

Was there something with ant tracks in it? I'm sure there was.

Matt (27:50.673)
No, mean like Bond would be the one where I'd think but Bond had lasers from space and...

Spencer (27:53.689)
What about Batman 89? Just Joker gas?

Luciano (27:54.572)
Well, yeah, but...

Luciano (27:59.246)
it's kind of a guess, yeah, yeah.

Matt (28:01.407)
Yeah, but like, but the thing is like they don't go into explain how deadly it is, right? They just like, oh, it's gas and it's gonna make you laugh and yeah, it's not like this stuff where it's like you melt down and like it's like it sounds like it's horrific, right? Like the if you get, um, if you get exposed to it, you die perfectly.

Luciano (28:06.574)
You're going to turn into a big smile.

Luciano (28:13.798)
Yeah.

Luciano (28:19.086)
Yeah.

Spencer (28:19.319)
I mean, I vaguely remember in the movie, X starring Xander Cage, they were trying to use a nerve agent of some kind.

Luciano (28:31.202)
You know you can't fool us because we can see you looking at your phone, right? I see.

Spencer (28:34.841)
No, this is off the top of my head

Matt (28:37.161)
top of his head everybody definitely not googling biggest nerve gas movies

Luciano (28:41.902)
And now he's also on the list. Welcome to the list.

Spencer (28:42.617)
Definitely not. Yeah, yeah, that'll get to be here.

Matt (28:45.375)
Welcome to the list.

Well, let's, let's just get into the blood holes and we kind of beat around the bush for a while. There's a blood hole in this movie? Yeah, there was. And it's our patented, it's a patented blood hole we see often in movies. It's not a simple thing. We're just going to blanket paint this blood hole for what it is. It's the entire airport, Los Angeles security.

Spencer (28:53.535)
boy.

Luciano (28:54.03)
Blood holes, is there one in this movie?

Spencer (28:56.566)
What?

Luciano (29:06.992)
Hahaha.

Matt (29:17.887)
I don't know if you blame LAX for the LAPD or everybody.

Luciano (29:19.272)
Yeah, I was gonna say it's like what the fuck aliex, that's the that's the yeah, yeah No one no one is

Matt (29:23.571)
Homeland security, like I don't know who's in charge, but TSA? Yeah, actually, yeah, the TSA probably does the best job in the sense that, you know, they only let a nerve agent through their screening process. Other than that, it's fine.

Spencer (29:27.233)
TSA?

Spencer (29:36.682)
I mean, it's.

I it's ex you know sometimes we'll throw shade on the you know police in movies being you know not the best it's very apt here because this whole movie is about airport security essentially and

Luciano (29:51.022)
They clearly wanted to show, look, we did our research. This is how TSA works.

Matt (29:56.361)
Yeah. Yeah.

Spencer (29:56.369)
But then they also were like, but also, fuck you. Also boom boom.

Luciano (29:59.834)
But also pew pew, but also pew pew pew, yeah. Yeah.

Matt (30:02.727)
Yeah, so like the biggest one for me, think, we've covered a couple of them, but the biggest one for me I think that just drives me nuts is the LAPD cop who shows up on the scene and takes charge for whatever reason, though she's not nearly, yeah, Ellen, she's, you however you wanna pronounce it, she is clearly not like the highest ranking officer on site, but whatever, that's fine, movies. But when Nora and Ethan come to her and they're like,

Luciano (30:18.549)
Elena?

Luciano (30:28.782)
I know what you're gonna say.

Matt (30:32.015)
Let him escape, because if you leave him here he's gonna blow up anyways, which... Whatever. It's the only way. My boyfriend has disarmed it once before, he can do it again. But no one even talks about the fact that the plane has left... It's on the fucking tarmac. And all she had to do was be like, how's he gonna get to... Like talk about for five seconds, just... Anything. Work through the logic.

Luciano (30:35.582)
It's the only way. Yeah.

Spencer (30:38.282)
only way.

Luciano (30:53.774)
That's the thing. make it, exactly, make it make sense. It's like, okay, we're gonna have the plane hang out for a bit so he can get in and then we'll let it go. No, he's gonna race it until like, oh, is it gonna fly? it gonna fly? Like, why? That was so unnecessary.

Matt (31:11.581)
No one has any idea. No one even knows if he gets on the plane. Right?

Spencer (31:14.785)
I mean, and there's so many holes with this one little thing. one, you're right. Why not just tell the plane to delay? I would love if they had the line, like, well, if we tell the plane to delay, it'll get suspicious and blow it up. Suspicious when the plane gets delayed? Every plane gets delayed! Yeah, I was just like.

Luciano (31:14.796)
Yeah.

Luciano (31:32.908)
Yeah, he would be suspicious if it doesn't get delayed

Matt (31:33.729)
I'm like...

Spencer (31:39.673)
what that alone is like yeah we just tell them the oh sorry we're having mechanical issue will be right out of the old be a often five minutes just to sit back relax thank you for flying in air Qantas and while that's happening at least have the cop join the guy and be like okay you can do it if you're the only one who knows of the summer fine I'm coming with you because you're a fucking civilian or like you're in the airport and I have a gun and I'm a police officer

Luciano (31:52.005)
Hahaha!

Luciano (32:01.056)
Yeah. Yeah.

We'll go together, you'll go together, you disarm the fucking thing, I'll arrest the guy. Or whatever.

Spencer (32:11.681)
And not exactly like what? Yeah, like

Matt (32:12.263)
Yeah. And then something happens where he's only able to get on the plane and it starts moving. Like, whatever, can fuck it up so she can't get on the plane, but like...

Luciano (32:18.273)
Yeah, yeah.

Spencer (32:18.625)
Or yeah, or like he goes to the cockpit and he's like, take off this fucking plane, you know, and he like kind of hijacks. But maybe that would have been too terroristy and people would have not liked it.

Matt (32:23.071)
Yeah.

Sure, but like there's ways to just you spend so much time in the first half of the movie at least for loose not for losing I prefer Spencer and I trying to make things plausible and then

Luciano (32:36.142)
That one, they were trying for me too, they just failed a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt (32:39.535)
Right, but they threw all plausibility out the window when they just let a civilian, a guy who has been a TSA agent for like two years, is the bad one. Yes, by all accounts.

Spencer (32:47.161)
Yeah, a bad one at that.

Luciano (32:49.3)
Yeah, yeah, like very mediocre one. And he just like, he runs through the airport through like security areas and whatever. People just look at him running, going to the... Takes on one of those carts that I think they use for luggage, right? And just like, nobody does anything. Yeah, yeah.

Matt (33:05.225)
drives onto the tarmac. Yeah. Not one security guard or anybody. Hey, it's a good time. Like no one. Like, I don't know what airports are like, but there's no cops and no security anywhere. Anywhere.

Spencer (33:09.241)
It's like, see you even!

Luciano (33:14.158)
Yeah.

Spencer (33:19.725)
Famously, airports don't have much police officers. They famously there's not much security at LAX. The most popular one of the biggest airports in the world. And not only that. Like he I think one of the guys actually like offers to help him move a body. He said, let me help you with that. Yeah, yeah, there's nobody. There's nobody down there, you know.

Luciano (33:22.612)
No, especially not after 9-11. No, that's it's...

Matt (33:23.603)
Right, yeah.

Luciano (33:29.216)
Yeah. Yeah.

Matt (33:41.567)
Yeah, but he's just a baggage guy. Like he's not anybody. He's not even a security guard.

Luciano (33:42.595)
Yeah.

Luciano (33:48.862)
And it's funny because again, this is another thing that they could have shown that he wasn't, he didn't necessarily have to suck at being a TSA agent, right? He could have just been like, not necessarily the greatest, but like someone who like could have said or shown that he knows everybody around the airport. So then there would make sense that they would let him through because they know him. No, just fucking let him go.

Spencer (34:10.297)
It was a weird choice making him like not give a shit about his job because

Luciano (34:16.438)
and then decide to give a shit on the day of.

Spencer (34:18.585)
Yeah, I mean it would have made sense if as a character you're like oh because the whole thing was like he's running away from his dream right and because but it made sense if he like actually was trying at the airport because he's trying to convince himself that that's what he wants you know it's like you started at the baggage area you know every inch of this airport you know why do you keep like you know obsessing over this job this isn't what you wanted and then that would explain why he's like a good guy to be doing it because he knows how to get around it

Matt (34:26.239)
Problems, yeah.

Luciano (34:27.02)
Yeah, yeah.

Luciano (34:33.155)
Yeah.

Spencer (34:47.531)
avoid cameras and like

Luciano (34:47.787)
Yeah.

Matt (34:48.479)
They really trade in the idea that he tried to be a cop and failed as a justification for why he's John McLean 2.0.

Spencer (34:54.573)
Yeah.

Luciano (34:55.214)
Well, I mean, the moment when it showed like those, wouldn't you want it to be like the whole conversation on the bus on the way there. It was like, okay, this is going to justify him being able to do all of the action stuff later on. For sure.

Spencer (35:07.267)
Which is fine, I'm fine with that, you know, it's better than just having a guy be able to fucking do shit without any training.

Luciano (35:13.43)
Yeah, But they made that the only really like heavy or like the only thing in his personality that has any gravitas is the whole, I'm a failed cop or whatever. And there's other things he could have been like super good at his job. He could have been, you know, a good boyfriend.

Matt (35:28.799)
This is one of the things that... No, no, no, no. No, he's a man. He can't do that. No, but like, it is one of the things that kind of annoyed me about the movie is it's been, in my opinion, entirely too long. Setting up these characters and giving them emotional stakes. To me, it's like, it's not wrong to give them emotional stakes, but a bad movie has to like, it's okay, this is the time to set up everybody, and this is who they're gonna be for the rest of the movie. They're gonna have no more character development at any point in time.

Spencer (35:32.629)
No, no, We don't do that here.

Luciano (35:44.866)
Yes.

Spencer (35:56.877)
Yeah, you can't have it like unveiled throughout the movie like subtly. It's got to be like.

Luciano (35:57.396)
Exactly. Yeah. And also whenever we need to ignore whatever we set up at this part, we're going to just do it because yeah.

Matt (36:06.705)
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's...

Spencer (36:08.025)
It's like the classic like trope like guy walks in and he's like, Hey, how's your week? He's like, spent the weekend with my three kids. I'm one day for retirement and I can't wait for my dream holiday. And it's like everything about the character said in like two sentences and then that's it.

Luciano (36:16.942)
Yeah. And I also love coffee. then like in the end, there's like, oh, he knows that these beans are not dark roasts. Therefore is the villain. What? Like, the fuck? Yeah. Yeah.

Spencer (36:29.625)
Yeah, it's just all set up in one sentence.

Matt (36:34.783)
Yeah, because it's funny because they later on in the movie and this is another like it's not it. There's a nitpick in here, but like the gun that the traveler has it's like plastic, right? If you shoot too many, he says if you shoot it too many times in a row, it's going to explode. I gotta be honest with you, like the explosion was real, but also very sad that like that's that that was what I was expecting. I was expecting it to just like explode, not just like break apart like plastic pieces. So while it was real, it was like underwhelming and it killed a guy like.

Luciano (36:44.535)
Right.

It's gonna blow up in your face, yeah.

Spencer (37:04.217)
Definitely didn't seem like it was a killing blow, but it's, you know.

Luciano (37:04.78)
Well, was... He wasn't lucky, think. I think it just got him in a... But yeah, it was very anticlimactic, I agree.

Matt (37:06.49)
Yeah.

Yeah, it's fine but like But they did a good job of like giving a gun and saying this thing can like giving you the the the Yeah, yeah, yeah That's how you do it, right? You just you say something important and it might come back into play That's how you do you don't just like like in the cop station at being in the movie This is a plastic PVC guy you see them all the time at airports keep your eyes open for them if they shoot too many bullets it will explode like

Luciano (37:18.207)
A literal Chekov's gun almost? Yeah.

Luciano (37:25.229)
Yeah.

Spencer (37:36.257)
and shoot you in the neck and we'll kill you if your name's Mateo.

Luciano (37:36.654)
And yeah, no and And then they show someone shooting like having like a full-on like gunfight with it and nothing happens And then when it has to happen for the plot it explodes. So this is better. I agree. Yeah

Matt (37:38.777)
Yeah

Matt (37:51.903)
Right. But like, so what like we're talking about these plot holes with airport security. We talked about the pre-show Spencer brought it up. There's this guy who's in charge of the airport. I don't know if he's LAPD or whatever airport security, but he's basically like, well, we'll shut down Northwind terminal, but I ain't shutting down this whole airport. It's Christmas and we got these passengers out of here.

Luciano (38:06.857)
Hahaha

Spencer (38:12.247)
Damn it, it's Christmas!

Luciano (38:15.214)
Not I'm not shutting down LAX on Christmas Day. No, let's leave it open when there's more people that die

Spencer (38:18.797)
I just would.

I wish my every plane I've ever took had a guy running it as dedicated as that guy was to getting those planes off. Cause I've had planes that have been delayed. I've had planes canceled for much less than a bomb going off in a on my plane. there's only a terrorist attack on terminal seven.

Luciano (38:27.65)
Yeah.

Luciano (38:34.423)
yeah.

Matt (38:35.199)
Yeah

Luciano (38:37.39)
But it's only on Terminal 7, Spencer, if you're on Terminal 6 or 9 or...

Matt (38:43.369)
Don't you know that all terminals are like very far away from each other and so if a bomb goes off in one it will not touch any of them. Yeah.

Luciano (38:47.646)
And they're like physically, physically and tightly isolated. Nothing can get from one to the other. Not, especially not on the tarmac where everything is the same.

Matt (38:57.139)
Yeah. Yeah.

Spencer (38:57.823)
I mean, that was probably my biggest, like straight up. I guffawed when I heard him be like, we're going to OK, the guy running the airport and all security. We know there's a nerve bomb in this airport, but we're like 90 percent sure it's in Terminal seven. So we'll shut that one down. But everything else is going to keep going. We're not going to tell anybody. We're not going to. I'm like.

Luciano (39:04.918)
Hahaha

Matt (39:25.663)
We're also gonna make sure passengers can get from terminal seven to any other terminal they wanna get to, just in case.

Spencer (39:28.569)
Yeah, of course, can't have, you know, people need to get off their flight, they need to transition. You know, we can't have everybody be so, we don't want them annoyed at the airline. I mean, it was just like, like, can you imagine if there was a bomb threat, even if there was a phone call to an airport, the whole airport, you know?

Matt (39:38.621)
No, God no.

Luciano (39:50.072)
and the entire fucking thing would shut down. The whole, it would be evacuated and flights would be grounded forever. Forget it. Yeah.

Spencer (39:58.317)
I was actually thinking how interesting this movie would have been if it was like set pre-911 and it was like

Luciano (40:05.326)
well if separate 11 would have been a 20 minute video because the guy would have just gone through with the thing what you have in there nothing dangerous right now of course not all right bye yeah it's just it's just my grandfather's clock inside that tiny bag yes oh okay then

Spencer (40:09.611)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like, by, hey Bill, he's like, hey.

No, Good, good. I was worried there for a second because it's ticking, but you said it's fine. So yeah.

Yeah. So I mean, in this modern day with everything, everyone knows about airports. was just like a, like, in my opinion, you had, you had one way to go, either only Ethan knows about it. And then, so all the planes are going off.

Luciano (40:44.278)
And that's where I thought it were going. Cause like with the way that he was setting it up, he was clearly saying, okay, nobody can know about this except for you. And you can't say anything until the fucking plane is in the air. That made sense. And then just to rid out the windows, like, I'm going to go talk to you. I'm going to almost kill you in the bathroom. And now I'm going to activate the thing in the middle of the airport just cause I can, even though I would die as well, but I'm not. Well, yeah, but like.

Spencer (40:52.888)
Yeah, that's

Spencer (41:06.637)
Well that was because he had a gun on him.

Luciano (41:10.542)
what he did as a retaliation, like when he activated the thing, right? It was like, what was his, like, he was banking on Ethan being able to do a lot, like what he did basically, to go in and, you know, lock the door on the baggage thing, right?

Spencer (41:22.883)
Yeah.

Matt (41:23.101)
Yeah

think that's fair. To call him on the bluff of him like, turning it off, like that's like, you know, he, he's playing on the idea that Ethan doesn't want to die and he doesn't want his girlfriend to die. That makes sense. But that was not a non-complicated, it was like the instructions, the instructions were simple, but like the, the ability to do it was extremely high, right? You have to be calm. You have to be like, doing it. Yeah.

Luciano (41:34.529)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Luciano (41:41.898)
what he needed to do to be yeah

Luciano (41:51.392)
Yeah, you have to have some time because things right? Yeah.

Matt (41:55.069)
Yeah, so like, that's a huge risk to take and stay at the airport. Basically.

Luciano (42:00.65)
Yeah, and he could have probably set that up for more than 10 minutes, I would assume from the cell phone. Right? And like I said, what if Ethan fucks up? What would have happened? No, he couldn't, because when he was in manual mode, it was in manual mode, right? Because they made sure to show it so they could show it in the plane too, that he couldn't like change. When he lifts the thing, it becomes manual mode, right? But then at that point, it was like a minute left.

Matt (42:08.777)
Sure. Yeah. I guess you could just turn it off.

Spencer (42:13.293)
No, he couldn't.

Matt (42:20.509)
Why was it on manual mode?

Spencer (42:25.315)
Yeah.

Matt (42:25.417)
Yeah.

Luciano (42:28.704)
And was like, okay, what if this kid can't do it? Now I'm going to die too. You know what I mean? Like there was, it was one thing to make a planned gamble. Like he, like if there was some sort of like fail safe or whatever, that one he made on the fly.

Matt (42:32.711)
Yeah, like you could... Yeah. The bluff.

Spencer (42:42.393)
So you think he could have turned it off before you opened it from his phone?

Luciano (42:45.792)
Maybe. That would make sense.

Matt (42:46.504)
I think so.

Spencer (42:47.193)
So why didn't he do that? Why didn't he just start it and be like, give me the gun or I'm gonna let this bomb. Yeah.

Matt (42:51.379)
This isn't even about airport security, but you are right that that like to set it off and To only have to rely on this Ethan character who you really know anything about to go and turn it off seems like an extremely I mean, I guess he would have killed his target, but he never left the airport. So he would have died too

Luciano (42:54.262)
Yeah, it's

Luciano (43:01.389)
Yeah.

Luciano (43:07.682)
Well, I don't even know if it was the congresswoman there already.

Matt (43:11.335)
Hmm, hey who knows but one would assume because otherwise why would you why would you risk like I give him that benefit of death he's gonna blow it up he's at least gonna get his job done but to take back to security So We've identified the cop is bad and she wants to hire him whatever we've identified that the head of security at LAX Very passionate about plane flights

Luciano (43:15.213)
Yeah.

Right, right.

Luciano (43:22.956)
Mmm.

Luciano (43:32.49)
Hahaha

Spencer (43:38.553)
People getting out on time.

Luciano (43:40.123)
Very passionate about the well-being of the passengers, yes.

Matt (43:43.003)
on time. Yeah.

Can we talk about the Watcher? I know Luciano brought it up earlier. But a man came into an airport, chased people, stabbed a man, and

Luciano (43:51.278)
you

Luciano (43:57.654)
Right. yeah.

Luciano (44:02.83)
yeah, it was supposed to be cool and was like, okay, so they're definitely going to stop him now. Nope.

Matt (44:10.153)
Yeah, and then continues to chase the woman, gets into a car, drives after her, and there's not one cop, not one security guard that's like, hey, I should go check into this. Yeah.

Luciano (44:21.838)
Hold on what's going on here? Yeah

Spencer (44:24.717)
Did Jason Bateman also kill a guy? At one point he was walking behind the scenes of the airport, just walking around with...

Luciano (44:28.77)
Yes.

Yes, he just walking around like he did on the plane to he did on the plane to just walk to the cargo area of the plane. No, no stewardess or or stupid person stop him. Yeah. Yeah.

Matt (44:34.303)
He killed the cop. To get a gun.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Spencer (44:39.277)
Yeah, I just walking around.

That would that that at that point was the I think was the first point where I was like, come on, like how about you just walking around back like in civilian clothes in the back of an airport? Like, I'm pretty sure.

Luciano (44:48.789)
Yeah.

Luciano (44:55.982)
And the cop had a gun right is a girl you can't be here This is a restricted area and I was like, okay What is he gonna do and then it just shows him with like blood in his hand and like it's like Yeah, ain't got time for this yeah

Spencer (45:07.619)
Classic. We don't want to shoot this. We don't got time. Hard cut. Cop, cops inside out. Gun in his hand. He did something. Okay. Don't worry about it.

Matt (45:11.967)
Too much money, we got time and money. No, it's fine. Don't worry about it. But yeah, like I think that's the, the movie was interesting when they both had constraints, right? Like he was matching Ethan and keeping him at bay. would think of something to do and then try to do it, they catch him. But when you take away the villain's constraints of,

Luciano (45:17.296)
Hahaha!

Luciano (45:23.192)
Yeah.

Luciano (45:36.151)
Right.

Matt (45:39.679)
Well, he's in the airport so he can see stuff and the watcher is tapped into the cameras. And so they set up this level of abilities they have. then for the third actor, it's like, well, we gotta break all those abilities so we can get our action sequence done. And that's when your interest starts to wane, because all the rules you set up and told me about, you throw them out the window, but you haven't explained how they've been thrown out the window.

Luciano (45:47.288)
Right.

Luciano (45:51.277)
Yeah.

Spencer (46:00.739)
Yeah, they don't fucking matter.

Yeah, at least have like the the traveler guy like take the cops uniform or something so he can move around without being stopped or like question. But like I've been to an airport as a non worker. You can't do anything. Yeah.

Luciano (46:08.692)
Exactly, that's what I was thinking. Yeah.

Luciano (46:20.066)
Now, if you try, like if you walk to like a place where you're not supposed to even walk close to, security looks at you. They don't necessarily stop you, but they're like, you can tell they're paying attention as they should because they're security.

Matt (46:26.996)
Mm-hmm.

Matt (46:31.561)
shoot you with a plastic gun.

Spencer (46:34.093)
I mean, and on top of all of this, like this is all security based. When that one guy just dies. Who like he poisons him.

Luciano (46:41.602)
Which one? yeah.

Matt (46:43.507)
Well, he has a heart attack, so no one knows at the time.

Spencer (46:44.653)
He has a heart attack. But even so, like you think they wouldn't check what happened on security cameras at all if they see a guy?

Luciano (46:52.935)
I mean he bumped into a guy

Matt (46:54.559)
Alright Luciano, it's fine. He had a heart attack. He died. Let it go.

Spencer (46:56.053)
You know what? And what about the shortcuts on their keyboards? That was the problem.

Luciano (47:00.078)
They didn't have any that was the problem

Matt (47:04.521)
So one thing I have a question for it is maybe not a plot hole and it might be traveling down the Luciano complaint area. I have no idea. But I am curious like if you put like a bomb through the security thing you could see the scanner being like this is probably a bomb this is bad blah blah blah

Luciano (47:21.42)
Right. Wouldn't there alarms be alarms? thought of that.

Matt (47:24.159)
Or like, shouldn't it just be up to one guy on one machine? Shouldn't the supervisor be like, hey supervisor, there's something really suspicious on line three. Take a look.

Luciano (47:28.354)
Yeah, exactly.

Luciano (47:34.092)
Yeah, shouldn't Hank have seen it in his like fucking little podium thing? Yeah, comment our

Spencer (47:38.443)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that there's like people like that that screen is being cloned and being watched by people in the back.

Matt (47:38.48)
command tower

Luciano (47:46.328)
Yeah.

Matt (47:46.783)
Yeah, and if something like something that dangerous like all the red signs like there'd be maybe not like an alarm in the you can hear in the airport but like LAPD at the airport would be like hey fuckers

Luciano (47:58.678)
Yeah. And it would at least be piped through somewhere to say, hey, there's this dangerous thing going on there. And nobody's stopping it because that's worse. was like that person on terminal, whatever, machine four, is looking at this and isn't stopping it. Right? So yeah, you're right. I hadn't even thought of that.

Spencer (47:58.695)
Fuckers, this is a bomb

Matt (48:07.391)
Cough

Matt (48:13.417)
Yeah. Yes.

Spencer (48:26.233)
I think that is borderline Luciano nitpicky, but also probably valid like real life. But like, I'll admit, I don't know that enough to let it slide.

Matt (48:34.495)
It's more of a curiosity. I'm willing to let it slide, but it's just like it seems like we've had enough bombs and bad things happen on airplanes that you'd want to err on the side of caution with those sort of protections.

Spencer (48:44.395)
Yeah, it's probably not just like one guy like looking at the screen without any like automation or like computers like double checking and or at least having multiple eyes on it, most likely. But I would let that one slide if you know, as like as a plot hole, because I don't know for certain. I do know for certain that if they knew there was a bomb in the airport, their planes would not be going off. I know that it doesn't matter if it's a nuke. There wouldn't be like letting it fly.

Matt (49:00.415)
I'm just asking questions.

Luciano (49:05.55)
Yeah.

Luciano (49:10.188)
Yeah.

Matt (49:10.461)
I- I- This is- This is the perfect example of like what is something that seems plausible. The scanning is like, I guess that could happen and you just let it go versus like the- They're not gonna be like, fly all the other planes, fuck it.

Spencer (49:21.218)
Yeah.

Luciano (49:26.286)
Or or like just go wherever you want in the airport nothing's gonna happen to you. Yeah

Spencer (49:26.585)
Fuck it.

Spencer (49:31.255)
I picked it would work if the guy running the airport it was like the guy in airplane who's like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. He's like shut down terminal seven. Okay. Is that good enough? No.

Luciano (49:37.914)
Yeah.

Matt (49:41.556)
Yeah.

Luciano (49:42.008)
Hahaha!

Matt (49:45.693)
Yeah. Like, he can be incompetent at his job. You need to show me he's bad at his job a couple of times, right? Not like he's a gruff captain. He's just like, fuck it, we're flying all the planes. They're not shutting down Christmas. It's like, show me you're dumb.

Spencer (49:51.298)
Yeah.

Luciano (49:51.832)
Yeah.

Spencer (49:56.521)
you know what? You know what? I just fixed this movie. They have a scene where it's like he looks at his phone and his wife is kidnapped as well. And his and yeah.

Matt (50:05.331)
Yeah, that's fine. Do one more.

Luciano (50:07.488)
I actually thought that Mateo was in part of the crew and then finding out that he wasn't was actually a cool surprise.

Matt (50:13.439)
crew, yeah.

Spencer (50:17.689)
Well, that's why I thought a cool twist would have been Jason Bateman also had someone he loved kidnapped, who's right. And the guy he's working for also had his loved one kidnapped and it just keeps going and there's no real start.

Matt (50:22.719)
Yes. Yep.

Luciano (50:24.334)
And then that person...

Luciano (50:30.606)
It keeps going until Vladimir Putin. I want to see... I will kill your bear and I will kill your deer and I will kill all of your animals if you don't do this. no, please!

Spencer (50:33.337)
Ed!

Spencer (50:44.057)
It keeps going.

Matt (50:44.499)
But then it turns out it's Vladimir Putin's kid.

Luciano (50:48.526)
No, it's the bear that erode that one time

Matt (50:52.063)
Yeah, well that's the kid and then the bear.

Spencer (50:52.406)
haha

It keeps going until it's Ethan is the original one. It's phone threatception.

Luciano (50:58.503)
no, it turns back on, it goes around.

Matt (50:58.535)
Back to you, Ethan.

Matt (51:04.637)
I think Ethan's just like, I just wanted you to, so I've got to make me a grilled cheese sandwich. How'd we get here?

Luciano (51:08.526)
Who do I have to threat to get a fucking grilled sandwich? Real cheese sandwich.

Spencer (51:08.636)
This was an Uber order to start.

Spencer (51:16.281)
I just let it.

Matt (51:19.357)
Anyways, that security just, it just, the whole last half, maybe the last third of the movie just were like the rules of life and like, yes.

Luciano (51:25.134)
Yeah. The day established that I think that's worse because they go through so much trouble to establish that everything, how everything works and then they just throw it out the window.

Spencer (51:36.557)
Yeah, it's, there's a, I'm trying to remember the, cause you're saying there's a distinct moment where it all changes and it's not as early as when he first sees Jason Bateman kill the guy.

Luciano (51:48.128)
No, it unravels, think, when like after that fight they have in the bathroom that Ethan goes inside and like points the gun to Phil and all that stuff. I think it's there.

Matt (51:58.707)
Yes.

Spencer (51:58.859)
Yeah, yeah. And I think it's the second that he like loses connection with Jason Bateman on the phone and then he starts running around everywhere and it just becomes like a, like, like just ridiculous.

Matt (52:11.679)
Yeah, because he like when they shut the airport down, for some reason, he doesn't have to do his job anymore. Like he just he's vanishes from his post and no one knows where he is. He's just gone.

Luciano (52:17.589)
Yeah, there's also that.

Well, he stopped like Phil stops all of the machines because they're doing bag searches, right? So then he doesn't have to do his job as much.

Matt (52:30.889)
Just watch this boss get killed.

Spencer (52:32.087)
Yeah, surely like when there's a bomb threat, they don't need as many TSA agents working.

Matt (52:37.407)
No, but do you say Asians would go and do other things? No? Okay, my bad.

Luciano (52:38.508)
Yes they do and don't call me Shirley.

Spencer (52:40.249)
No, no, no. If you work at security at an airport and there's a bomb threat, you have lunch. You have lunch. It's lunchtime. Everybody knows that. And then you take dinner too.

Luciano (52:47.266)
That's when you work the least. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Matt (52:48.691)
You're out.

Luciano (52:53.39)
you

Matt (52:56.487)
Yeah, that's fair, okay.

Spencer (52:58.061)
and then you take a nap like Hank.

Matt (53:00.415)
Thank you.

Luciano (53:01.09)
I like how we keep calling him Hank.

Spencer (53:02.744)
Huh!

Matt (53:03.015)
Like, the, the... It's fine. Hank knows what he did.

Spencer (53:05.227)
Hank from Breaking Bad. For all of you listeners who are confused.

Matt (53:10.345)
So like, is that on the bingo card? Nerve agent? Bomb?

Luciano (53:14.338)
What is?

Luciano (53:17.858)
What bingo card? For what?

Matt (53:18.847)
They were playing Contraband Bingo.

Spencer (53:21.657)
yeah!

Luciano (53:23.407)
I don't think it was. I don't think nerve gas contraband.

Matt (53:24.511)
Well, also it got through so if it was on your bingo card you didn't win because easel let it through It's a dick move Yeah

Luciano (53:30.922)
Yeah, I thought that was funny. The bingo thing was funny.

Spencer (53:34.739)
I wonder what we should ask what is on that card. Perhaps later. Just saying.

Matt (53:40.723)
Perhaps. Just saying. Okay, we got a few minutes here. Can we tidy this up at all? We talked about a few things, but... And obviously we're not rewriting the script, but... Like the one tweak we had where the cop went with Ethan and was with him when he tried to get on the plane to...

Luciano (53:58.158)
Yeah. And the traveler being able to somehow get like access to like a uniform and a card from someone who would have more access to the airport, that could walk.

Matt (54:09.627)
What's her face dropped a bag for him for a parachute? She could have also dropped off another bag of like security passes. Yeah.

Luciano (54:13.142)
Right? Yeah. Yeah. It could have been the same thing. Yeah.

Spencer (54:16.089)
Or maybe when they killed Hank, they like, he somehow gets his hands on his stuff because he was like the head guy.

Matt (54:24.155)
But Hank is not the same size as Jason Bittman.

Luciano (54:26.446)
No. Actually, actually in that that one thing when they show him like full profile, it looked like he ate Jason Bateman. I'm sorry, but it does. No, but I like that would be too high profile. I think you don't want to get like the head of security's badger. You want to get someone who has access, but isn't going to be like super visible. don't think. Although with the security in this movie.

Spencer (54:27.811)
How dare you?

Spencer (54:33.93)
come on! He's just a little, come on! What are we doing?

Spencer (54:55.385)
It doesn't matter. It's all automated. You scan, walk through.

Luciano (54:56.645)
Yeah.

Matt (55:00.573)
No one knew he was dead, it's fine.

Luciano (55:02.656)
Yeah, well, someone's right. had he had opportunity with the girl with the bag or even after he killed the cop or something, right?

Matt (55:03.999)
just like.

Spencer (55:06.585)
I

Spencer (55:10.167)
Like speaking of security, what did they do with his body?

Luciano (55:14.658)
Whose body? They hid it behind a bunch of bags, didn't you see?

Matt (55:15.301)
I don't know, it's in Albuquerque.

Spencer (55:15.445)
Anx body? They shipped it. They just hid them behind a bunch of bags. Yeah, that's fine. Nobody looks at those. That's their stash of bags.

Luciano (55:22.742)
Yeah. Also, corpses notoriously do not stink up the place after a few hours in the heat.

Matt (55:30.29)
No. Never.

That's fine, don't worry about it. Put them in the airplane fridge. It's airtight.

Luciano (55:38.908)
The other one. Yeah.

Spencer (55:38.969)
Yeah, they're all hair-type.

Matt (55:43.977)
It'll be fun.

Spencer (55:45.025)
I mean, yeah, that's I think that sums it up. mean, that's the that is a true plot hole because it's like one of those things that just took me out of the movie quite a bit because I was just constantly thinking like. Yeah, like when he's driving down the tarmac on that fucking car to a moving airplane. Like that alone would be like an international incident, you know, like they would like just be like.

Matt (55:54.633)
Yes.

Luciano (55:55.618)
Yeah, like it just wouldn't happen that way, right? Yeah.

Luciano (56:03.395)
Yeah.

Matt (56:09.417)
Yes.

Spencer (56:11.799)
Like there'd be so many police cars there if there's a guy driving next to a moving plane jumping from it. They've got a million eyes on those things, especially as they're like taking off.

Luciano (56:22.146)
Yeah.

Matt (56:22.175)
So this is exactly it. every year I watch Die Hard 1 and Die Hard 2 at Christmas, because the Christmas movies, fuck you guys. And so I watch a lot of Die Hard 2. the thing about, fuck you, I'm just getting ahead of it. Thank you. The thing about Die Hard 2 is all the stuff that happens at that airport is the airport is shut down. The airport is not working. And when John McClane...

Luciano (56:28.334)
Nobody disagreed.

Spencer (56:30.893)
Yeah. We're all meant here.

Luciano (56:41.686)
Yeah, it's different. Yeah.

And it's pre-911.

Matt (56:48.791)
It is also pre-911. When John McClane flies a helicopter out to stop the plane and the terrorists leaving, there's no other planes on the field. There's nothing on the field because the terrorists have shut the airport down. And so it's more believable that he would be able to do this because the airport's already fucked and there's nothing happening versus this is an active airport and also, like a helicopter theoretically could catch up to a plane on the ground along the tarmac.

And so the plan seems plausible, whereas in this movie, it's like no one has told him they're gonna hold the plane for him. He's just gonna drive out there, hope he can get on. The plausibility just falls apart, right?

Spencer (57:27.577)
They should.

Luciano (57:27.592)
And they say, yeah, let the plane go. How do know he got to the plane? You don't.

Matt (57:31.816)
Yeah

Spencer (57:32.569)
I would have loved if they just throughout this movie, every time something happened where like security should have done something, it just kept cutting back to that guy running the airport, blowing it off over and over again. know, be like, there's a man driving up to the airplane in a car, she's jumping onto the riding gear or the landing gear. It is Christmas and this plane is taking off. But sir, I said it's Christmas.

Matt (57:43.325)
Yes. Guess?

Luciano (57:44.311)
Yeah.

Matt (57:51.315)
He is not gonna ruin Christmas!

Luciano (57:56.556)
Yeah, yeah. No, no, it's better if he keeps giving excuses, right? It goes like, well, I know he's, but he's driving a car, like a vehicle, that's supposed to be in the tarmac, so that's okay. It's a plane car, it's okay. I'm not shedding this airport on Christmas for that. Yeah, yeah.

Spencer (58:09.721)
That's a plane car!

Matt (58:11.423)
That's

Spencer (58:15.001)
I'm pretty sure he works here. I'm like, I'm like 60 % sure.

Matt (58:19.997)
We wouldn't let anybody who's not secure.

Luciano (58:21.81)
Look, no, look, that's Joe. I play Yahtzee with him every day.

Spencer (58:25.945)
Who plays Yahtzee every day? That's too much Yahtzee. That's the craziest thing you've said, Put that man on the rest for that one statement. But just like the entire time, like every time there's like gunshots going off in the fucking luggage area. Sir, there's a gunfight off in the luggage area. God damn it, it's Christmas.

Matt (58:29.215)
Joe and I do. It's a it's a yatchi league. We're in a yatchi league together. Don't question me. It's Christmas.

Luciano (58:35.478)
Hahaha!

Yeah.

Matt (58:43.891)
He's out of here. Get out of

Luciano (58:44.364)
Hahaha!

Luciano (58:50.391)
Like, yeah, things... Well, there's... Yeah, he's like, where is it written that you can't have a gunfight there?

Spencer (58:58.969)
Yeah, show me in the real book the rule book where a dog can't play basketball I mean where you can't have a gunfight in an airport

Luciano (59:04.712)
Hahaha!

Matt (59:06.004)
Yeah

Luciano (59:08.269)
Yeah.

Matt (59:08.585)
Fine, what luggage area is this? Fine, shut that one luggage area off, but the rest of it stays open.

Luciano (59:12.256)
Yeah. Sir, they found a nuke in one of the bags. Well, just lock that bag on the airtight container. Let everything else go through. But sir, airtight things don't do anything against nukes. Shut up. This is Christmas. We're going to keep on. Yeah. Exactly.

Spencer (59:12.446)
Yeah... Yeah...

Spencer (59:25.919)
It's good!

Matt (59:27.507)
Shut that one bag down. But the rest of it stays open.

Spencer (59:32.633)
I want that cut. That fixes the movie.

Matt (59:36.031)
watch that movie. No, it's fine, it'll be a better movie. That would be tense for sure. Let's ask some fun questions. think we've tackled our plot holes and other various grievances against this movie. And let's try some fun stuff. Hey, the Watcher is fucking weird, right? He's a little creeper. Can you explain to me how the Watcher wasn't caught on January 6th?

Luciano (59:37.036)
Yeah, we'd also change the genre, but I'd be here for it.

Luciano (59:42.936)
You

Luciano (59:49.122)
Okay.

You

Luciano (01:00:00.518)
yes.

Spencer (01:00:05.025)
Hehehehehe

Matt (01:00:05.597)
Not this one, but like the one where they storm the Capitol.

Luciano (01:00:06.478)
okay.

Spencer (01:00:08.717)
I mean, I think he was doing something bad this January 6th too. mean.

Luciano (01:00:12.278)
Yeah. he's dead now.

Matt (01:00:12.295)
Yeah, probably. But it was illegal.

Spencer (01:00:16.269)
true. Yeah, I don't think he was at January 6th because he was skinning animals.

Luciano (01:00:18.306)
Yeah. Yeah. So he wasn't caught on this one because he was dead. Let's talk about the other one.

Matt (01:00:20.767)
I don't want to.

Spencer (01:00:31.426)
in his basement.

Matt (01:00:32.998)
Okay, okay.

Spencer (01:00:34.627)
to make pelt to wear to January 6th. Cause that was kind of a thing happening. You got a little carried away.

Matt (01:00:39.967)
And he got carried away. He missed it.

Luciano (01:00:41.726)
he was, he wanted to go, he wanted to go in like matching outfits with the shaman. I see. God damn it! Why does everything take so long?

Spencer (01:00:46.071)
With the Shaman guy, yeah.

Matt (01:00:46.707)
Yeah. He showed up on January 7th. Fuck!

Spencer (01:00:49.305)
Yeah, wearing all animal pelts.

Matt (01:00:52.858)
Yeah.

Spencer (01:00:54.553)
I thought I got... no. OOPSY TASY!

Matt (01:00:58.751)
So, it happened again!

Luciano (01:01:00.27)
This was not a leap year.

Spencer (01:01:05.477)
How am gonna make America great again? There are animal skins!

Luciano (01:01:08.36)
Yeah.

Matt (01:01:12.799)
And then he pulls out a giant sniper rifle and shoots a squirrel.

Spencer (01:01:14.713)
I think that explains why he wasn't there because I can't think of any other logical reason is that one he wanted to be there I mean that much we know he would have given anything

Luciano (01:01:15.276)
Yeah.

Matt (01:01:18.652)
well.

Matt (01:01:24.455)
Yeah, no God no. You definitely want to be there.

Luciano (01:01:30.74)
yeah, yeah.

Luciano (01:01:36.428)
Maybe he was watching Mike Pence's house to kidnap his family in case he wouldn't.

Spencer (01:01:42.132)
old

Luciano (01:01:42.476)
Maybe that's why he was doing not because anybody told him to do it just because he's a fucking weirdo and wanted to do it. Yeah.

Matt (01:01:43.903)
Yeah, no, No, he believes in freedom and he fights for it.

Spencer (01:01:49.325)
Yeah.

He's a traitor. What does animal felt?

Luciano (01:01:52.238)
The glee, the glee that he had on his face every time he turned around the car and thought he would find Nora. I was like, the fuck is wrong with you,

Matt (01:01:52.655)
animal pelt.

Spencer (01:01:59.479)
I will say, you guys probably don't know this, but I watched The Penguin, fantastic show, and this actor is in The Penguin, and he is also a very skeevy like guy that looks like he skins animals and wears them to January 6th. So he's definitely getting, like, what's that called? Typecast as animal skinning, January 6th endorsing weirdo. And I'm here for it.

Luciano (01:02:13.194)
It's the mustache. It's the mustache.

Matt (01:02:15.603)
Yeah, the mustaches.

Luciano (01:02:18.776)
Typecast?

God. Guns rights activist.

Matt (01:02:27.231)
He was in Sons of Anarchy.

Spencer (01:02:31.193)
Oh, would great if it was just listed as animal skinner. We just absolutely nailed it.

Luciano (01:02:32.287)
That tracks.

Matt (01:02:36.479)
No, his character name was Juan Carlos Juiz Ortiz.

Luciano (01:02:36.485)
Hahaha!

Spencer (01:02:42.234)
he's juicing animals!

Luciano (01:02:42.432)
Juice!

Matt (01:02:44.637)
Yeah. Yeah. So that's a thing. Anyways, next question. Hey, the airtight fridge that Jason Bateman does.

Spencer (01:02:47.639)
Okay.

Matt (01:02:57.001)
an accidental death. What are those things normally used for when they're not holding nerve gas?

Spencer (01:03:00.172)
No

Luciano (01:03:04.846)
Mmm, they have two they have two

Spencer (01:03:05.475)
I actually saw there was a there was a font on there. I don't know if you read it was a Luciano tank because of his extreme body odor.

Matt (01:03:12.775)
Okay. Wow.

Luciano (01:03:14.286)
Oh, I thought you was going to be because I want things to be airtight in my movies. That was a better joke. No, I don't.

Spencer (01:03:18.593)
No, no, it's because you smell like shit.

Matt (01:03:19.485)
Wow, these jokes, these are both bad jokes. You guys want to try again? Take another run at it?

Spencer (01:03:23.273)
I know. Yeah. that is, everybody knows that every flight, someone famously shits their pants. And if you're not the one, if you're not seeing it, then you're the one doing it.

Luciano (01:03:27.586)
Why?

Matt (01:03:34.174)
Right.

Luciano (01:03:38.156)
You're the one doing it. And what they do, they put you in the airtight container.

Spencer (01:03:41.409)
And speaking as a man who's... Yeah, they put you in the tank, they don't clean your hands. As a man who's been in the tank a few times, I know my way around the airtight tank, okay? No, the tank. When I walk in, they go, Spencer, should we take you straight to the tank? I say, you let me get there on my own. Now bring me my cream soup.

Matt (01:03:43.945)
Who does it?

Luciano (01:03:53.432)
The tank is not even a like a fridge. It's a tank at this point

Matt (01:04:02.367)
straight to solitary.

Luciano (01:04:10.705)
Hahaha!

Matt (01:04:12.703)
That's one idea. I could see that being very useful. It's a pretty long flight, right? Go LAX to Dallas. Okay, great.

Spencer (01:04:19.049)
Don't matter the flight length. I'm getting there.

Luciano (01:04:22.958)
Yeah, what else could they use that for

Now I have not all ideas I have now are shit related. Yeah.

Spencer (01:04:33.209)
It should related to the only answer. I mean.

Matt (01:04:34.911)
Just poop. Yeah, it's hard not to.

Luciano (01:04:44.078)
Because like the other option would be to do pickles of something. Yeah, that's what he used.

Spencer (01:04:48.971)
What? What?

Matt (01:04:50.047)
Why airtight? Well, I guess, yeah, you're right. It's like just a, taste better. Like if you pickle at, you know, 30,000 feet in the air. Yeah. So they're.

Spencer (01:04:59.833)
It's like a side business still running.

Luciano (01:05:04.398)
Oh, and then they can like market it, like pickled at 30,000 feet.

Matt (01:05:08.959)
Yeah, so they pick up all the stuff from Washington, that's why it's empty, and they pickle it on the way back to LA.

Luciano (01:05:16.16)
Okay. I mean, it makes as much sense as anything else.

Spencer (01:05:17.177)
I hope they don't use it after I've been in there. Oh God. Well.

Matt (01:05:20.178)
Listen, why do you think it's got that special flavor?

Luciano (01:05:28.45)
Yeah, I think that's all I have.

Matt (01:05:30.033)
Well, next question. There's no reason to stay here. Ethan doesn't become a cop because he refused to say that he saw a crime. And it's kind of alluded to by Jason Bateman in the sense that his father did something, but they're never specific about it. What do think Ethan actually saw?

Luciano (01:05:33.853)
Hahaha!

Luciano (01:05:52.878)
You're saying what what did his father do that he didn't report?

Matt (01:05:55.838)
Well, I don't really know to be his father like that was just yeah.

Spencer (01:05:57.293)
I think it's pretty clear. think... No, no, that's what the tank's for. No, he was busting a drug den.

Luciano (01:06:00.258)
But did he shit his pants?

Matt (01:06:12.808)
Right.

Spencer (01:06:14.445)
with his partner and then he was.

Luciano (01:06:18.434)
Wait, but his dad famously didn't get into the cop.

Spencer (01:06:21.529)
This was his, this was his like cadet run. He was getting shown the ropes by one, another cop. And then there was a, there was somebody who was doing drugs. He took a line and then the teacher cop told him he can't do that. So he shot the cop, shot the drug dealer, put the drug dealer's gun in the cops hand, the cops, know, you know, this was a struggle. He pinned it on each other.

Matt (01:06:31.525)
Right.

Matt (01:06:37.49)
All right.

Matt (01:06:44.639)
Yeah.

Spencer (01:06:51.897)
There's another person there and he said, if you ever tell anyone what you saw here, you know, you know, I'm gonna.

Matt (01:06:59.495)
Yep. Wait, was Ethan the other person?

Luciano (01:07:01.255)
And did the other... No, the dad. The dad was...

Spencer (01:07:04.833)
No, no, Ethan's doing this. Yeah, this was before he became a cop.

Luciano (01:07:07.844)
wait, what?

Matt (01:07:11.455)
I just, okay, great.

Spencer (01:07:13.837)
The cop was his dad. Sorry, I didn't say that.

Matt (01:07:15.465)
Sorry, yeah, what the, what? Okay, right.

Luciano (01:07:19.202)
This dad was, whatever. No, he's not. He's not a cop.

Spencer (01:07:20.761)
His dad's the cop. What aren't you understanding? He shot his dad. He shot the drug dealer. He took the drugs. He painted on each other. Equals profit.

Luciano (01:07:28.268)
Right.

Matt (01:07:29.469)
Right, but was he working for the LA cops at the time?

Spencer (01:07:38.275)
Who, Ethan? Yeah.

Matt (01:07:39.506)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:07:41.785)
What the fuck is going on?

Matt (01:07:42.941)
Okay, I really want to yes and this, but his dad lives in New Jersey.

Spencer (01:07:43.737)
He wasn't a cop yet, this was his first day. No! Ah, I see, this is where you're, I understand why you're confused.

Matt (01:07:55.379)
Yeah.

Spencer (01:07:56.633)
The cop that he killed wasn't his dad. That was his nickname for the called him He called him Daddy-o Yeah, Daddy-o and he'd say daddy-o let's go hit the scene and then when he got there He thought because his name was Daddy-o that he was cool and he liked to get wet But he didn't so he had to go King Kong on him and then that's when he

Luciano (01:08:01.902)
dad. Sergeant, Sergeant,

Matt (01:08:02.897)
Right, right. Daddy-o. Yeah.

Matt (01:08:11.713)
He was Italian, yeah.

Spencer (01:08:27.041)
And when they said, they're like, you lied about this crime scene. What you said doesn't make any sense.

Luciano (01:08:34.358)
Yeah, well that part I agree with.

Spencer (01:08:36.085)
And then that's when he said, may have been a Coke induced dream. I don't know. And then that's when they took him off the case. Famously, even though he wasn't a cop, he was on the case.

Luciano (01:08:41.302)
Hahaha!

Matt (01:08:47.679)
Yeah, this is an exam he took, but yeah, I see how this works out. Listen, I believe you Spencer, I think this is the answer, but in the interest of fairness, I just want to hear what Lucy, I don't have to say on the subject.

Spencer (01:08:50.494)
It was all a test!

Spencer (01:08:56.148)
IT HAPPENED!

Luciano (01:09:03.506)
I think it's a much more egregious crime. think he saw his dad take 11 items to the 10 item lane in the supermarket and never reported it.

Matt (01:09:10.067)
You know what? That's my fault, Spencer. I apologize. That's not me. I should never have done that. I apologize. Next question.

Spencer (01:09:11.285)
Yeah, thank you. Now we know what really happened.

Spencer (01:09:18.425)
That's on you, Daddy-o!

Matt (01:09:22.719)
Whoa! Nora. Nora is a character in this movie. She is the girlfriend and baby mama to Ethan. She's clearly written. Her character is clearly written by AI because her character makes no sense. Well, her character makes sense. It's her relationship.

Spencer (01:09:42.851)
she makes perfect sense as a poorly written woman.

Luciano (01:09:45.358)
As a prototype of a stereotypical woman, yes.

Matt (01:09:48.657)
Yeah.

Spencer (01:09:49.582)
the stereotypical like dream woman of a person who doesn't have a real relationship. You know what mean?

Luciano (01:09:52.302)
more of interest.

Luciano (01:09:56.562)
Yeah.

Matt (01:09:56.987)
or like a dream with life. And so anyway, so the point is, let's get a real AI in here to write her character, make her more realistic. I was thinking we could use popcorn GPT to rewrite this. So what do we get out from? Type it all in, and what's it going to feedback to us?

Spencer (01:10:18.201)
You can just type in like his lines and as she writes it back or or popcorn GPT writes it back or.

Matt (01:10:20.799)
Well, it's like more like I think it's more like you write You write yeah, what's the prompts? Well, not the prompt but like what prompt are we gonna use to get a realistic version of Nora? Not the one that's like I love you you even though you don't have a job or dream or a career and like there's no evidence of a relationship at your house apparently

Luciano (01:10:24.382)
What was the prompt? What was the prompt?

Luciano (01:10:33.71)
You

Spencer (01:10:36.505)
So yeah.

Spencer (01:10:41.465)
So in the movie, like the like example, he says, you know, I don't like my job. I don't, I'm not happy. And she says, just, I don't care if we ever have any money. I just want you to follow your dream. Don't care about our baby. Don't care about me. It's all about you and your happiness. so the real version or at least popcorn ship GPT, I think would be more, a little more along the lines of.

Luciano (01:10:56.334)
no.

Spencer (01:11:10.698)
Shut the fuck up.

what are you talking about? Like we have a baby coming. You, I, I'm all supportive of you following your dream of being a cop. clearly don't like this job. Let's figure this out because you know, we only have a couple of months before we still have to start planning and I don't want to you complaining about the shitty ass job you have. And then, and then when you could have had this opportunity to go for the job you love, like I, know, I, need money, but I also can't have you being a

like working this dead ass job. Fucking figure your shit out.

Luciano (01:11:48.29)
I was gonna say that was gonna be the you have to figure shit out. That would be the first thing.

Spencer (01:11:51.275)
Yeah, yeah, you're fucking 35 year old man, baby.

Matt (01:11:56.925)
And then Nora is the one who's threatening Jason Bateman's life.

Luciano (01:12:01.954)
She was threatening Ethan. She's like, put this on. It was me the whole time.

Spencer (01:12:04.243)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's the twist. She puts into the earpiece in like throughout the whole thing. She's like, you're to let this package through and like, love you, but you got to figure it out. Did you say you love me? Oops.

Matt (01:12:04.831)
She she she just takes out the Jason Bateman mask has been nor the whole time

Matt (01:12:15.519)
the

Luciano (01:12:23.242)
No, no, I didn't. What are you talking about?

Spencer (01:12:26.563)
And before you come home, you can pick up the groceries. You know, cause it'd be nice.

Luciano (01:12:32.046)
Also, please remember to take the garbage out for the love of God.

Spencer (01:12:37.753)
And I blow up the plane whatever all that too

Matt (01:12:38.056)
Buon time.

Matt (01:12:43.379)
Yeah, blah blah. Okay, no,

Luciano (01:12:45.518)
I think that's a good rewrite.

Matt (01:12:49.087)
Okay, different question entirely. The studio's dead set on a sequel. Because this has been a smash hit. What's it gonna be about? Who's gonna star in it?

Luciano (01:12:54.518)
Of they are.

Spencer (01:13:01.325)
Carry two on? Two carry on? Kick. Two carry two on? No.

Luciano (01:13:01.772)
Hmm No Check-in it's check-in Yeah Yeah, like this move. yeah, it also makes much more sense

Matt (01:13:04.575)
Too carry, too odd.

Matt (01:13:10.207)
That's stupid. 2K2ON is a way better title.

Spencer (01:13:13.017)
Yeah! We're still on the same page, man. It's so much better.

Luciano (01:13:21.55)
So the villain will be Will Arnett, of course. Has to be.

Spencer (01:13:27.192)
I could see that.

What are gonna do? You're gonna bring this bag on. Breathe this bag with your Dodge Chevy Caravan 2.4 liters. What's a bag that you check in called?

Luciano (01:13:32.782)
Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft.

Matt (01:13:37.297)
Ha ha ha!

Matt (01:13:51.935)
Checked. Backage. Yeah, checked.

Luciano (01:13:53.034)
That's what I said, that's what the name of the movie is.

Matt (01:13:59.923)
Yeah, those are checked, checked in. Those are checked bags.

Luciano (01:14:02.264)
Those are checked bags.

Luciano (01:14:06.497)
Fuck you! To check to make... Okay, there you go.

Matt (01:14:07.455)
Two checks, two bags.

Matt (01:14:12.497)
Okay. Yeah.

Luciano (01:14:19.362)
And this one can be in an airport, has to be in an airplane, because following the diehard in a wannabe scenario.

Matt (01:14:28.585)
So then it's obviously what we have. We have Ethan, I like Spaceport, that's good. Ethan comes back obviously. And I think as a cop, but I think it's a buddy cop situation. He partners with his buddy Jason who he got fired because he's still a TSA agent.

Spencer (01:14:29.687)
or it's in a spaceport.

Luciano (01:14:32.244)
Or a spaceport, yeah. Yeah. As a cop,

Luciano (01:14:41.762)
Okay.

Spencer (01:14:45.283)
They didn't re- I'll tell something, they just didn't re-ire him.

Luciano (01:14:45.998)
Okay.

Matt (01:14:48.735)
No, he's there at the end. They're going to Tahiti together. That's fair.

Spencer (01:14:50.571)
Yeah, but we don't know if he his job back.

Luciano (01:14:51.148)
Yeah, they go to Tahiti together. is it, does it happen in Tahiti, in the spaceport in Tahiti?

Matt (01:14:57.011)
Yeah, Tahitian spaceport, everybody knows about that.

Luciano (01:14:59.328)
Famous one, yeah. Go on, I'm with you.

Spencer (01:14:59.597)
Yeah, yeah.

Spencer (01:15:04.805)
That's it! That's the movie! No, the premise is they're on vacation in Tahiti. It's actually a layover though because they're clearly going to be going into space. And somebody wants to smuggle, because it has to be, being a sequel it has to be the same idea but bigger. Someone wants to smuggle a sun bomb.

Luciano (01:15:06.382)
That's the movie!

Matt (01:15:06.622)
I mean, what else do you want?

Luciano (01:15:19.064)
Right.

Luciano (01:15:34.158)
Okay.

Spencer (01:15:34.489)
Cause they want to stop the sun because it's free energy.

Matt (01:15:42.463)
So I'll tweak it, it's a sun rocket. To go into space they're going to go to Mars, they're not going go all the way to the sun, but they'll fire the rocket from the spaceship to blow up the sun.

Spencer (01:15:54.617)
Yeah. Sorry. I thought that went without saying. Yeah. Yeah. They're not writers. They don't really get this.

Matt (01:15:57.373)
I just for our audience in case they were following.

No, they don't understand the process. There's two rockets, by the way. That's part of the... Because there's two. Yeah. Yeah.

Luciano (01:16:02.83)
They don't get it. They don't get it.

Spencer (01:16:05.869)
Yeah, part of the two.

Luciano (01:16:06.69)
That's why it's called two check, two baggage.

Spencer (01:16:09.113)
to check your baggage.

sun bomb working subtitle there. And obviously Will Arnett as we've already casted. Fantastic actor. He's going to play. Well, he's the villain.

Luciano (01:16:14.232)
Yeah.

Matt (01:16:24.051)
The astronaut.

Matt (01:16:28.263)
Yeah, need the cosmonaut.

Luciano (01:16:29.336)
Well, the cause, well, the, the, the,

Spencer (01:16:31.854)
I'm gonna right into it because he's Russian, of course. We got there. Okay, yeah.

Luciano (01:16:36.973)
Ha ha!

Luciano (01:16:41.016)
Hey, Will.R.Net can do a mean Russian accent. I've seen him do it on Horton here too. So that's qualification.

Spencer (01:16:49.217)
So he's locked. And basically, yeah, on their vacation to Mars, they find out there is a secondary rocket within their rocket designated for the sun. And there is a cosmonaut on board.

Matt (01:16:49.225)
Right, Yeah.

Luciano (01:17:00.375)
Right.

Spencer (01:17:07.169)
And they realized because he has a Russian accent that he must be the pilot of the second Russian. I'm sorry. Second rocket, not second Russian with destiny. then.

Luciano (01:17:15.954)
What?

Matt (01:17:21.663)
Who is the cause of not manipulating? Because you gotta have someone.

Spencer (01:17:25.834)
right. need the aspect of them like threatening their loved ones.

Matt (01:17:29.384)
Yeah.

Spencer (01:17:32.149)
So listen to this twist. They're best friends and he threatens to the other one that he's gonna kill the other one. So to Ethan he says, if you don't listen I'm gonna kill Jason and to Jason, if you don't listen I'm gonna kill Ethan.

Matt (01:17:35.986)
Yep, I love it.

Spencer (01:17:53.816)
See what mean?

Luciano (01:17:54.274)
And is it, wait, so is it like they're trying to, is he trying to cover his bases or is it like two different cosmonauts trying to outdo each other to see who launches the bomb?

Spencer (01:18:05.355)
Yes.

Matt (01:18:06.345)
They're working together. Yes, they were, no, I've got this. There's a second, like it's a reveal like two thirds of the way into the movie. There's a second cosmonaut and that second cosmonaut is trying to launch the second rocket and he is pitting the wives, Nora and Jason's wife, against each other.

Luciano (01:18:07.192)
Hahaha!

Luciano (01:18:24.448)
Mm-hmm. okay. And also if we're gonna remain true to the formula of this movie, it like, what point during this movie that it goes from like an action, space action movie to a musical? So it becomes a musical at the end.

Spencer (01:18:26.549)
Mm-hmm.

Matt (01:18:37.728)
At the same time the reveal happens. Yeah, obviously Sean Hayes is the other cosmonaut.

Spencer (01:18:42.054)
We need a genre shift.

Spencer (01:18:47.253)
Obviously. Did that not even need to be said. He also can sing and so he'll be perfect for that third act reveal. Yeah, which is a musical. Basically, the second that the second rocket leaves the first rocket and all the characters make their way towards the sun. There's no more talking.

Luciano (01:18:50.754)
Yeah, that makes sense.

Matt (01:18:52.26)
I just for the audience just in case you

Which is a musical. Yeah, obviously.

Luciano (01:18:59.414)
Yeah, yeah. Obviously.

Matt (01:19:11.655)
No, it's all music. We'll play it off of Space Madness. Everything is musical.

Luciano (01:19:11.904)
Right, it's just singing, singing and dancing.

Spencer (01:19:14.007)
Yeah.

Yeah, it's space madness and also the bomb runs on music.

Luciano (01:19:20.62)
I was gonna say yeah, like the fuel is music. That's how it's gonna get to the sun because otherwise it wouldn't. Obviously.

Matt (01:19:28.191)
Anyways, we're not gonna finish it. We don't want to ruin it for you. That's... Yeah. We're gonna try. Will they? I don't know. Gotta watch. Two checks. Two check two bags.

Spencer (01:19:30.969)
And they broke the sun. Spoilers.

Luciano (01:19:31.587)
Yeah.

Spoilers.

Spencer (01:19:36.249)
I gotta watch 2 bag 2 checks or whatever the fuck we're calling you.

Luciano (01:19:37.346)
Okay, to back to to check to baggage sun bomb

Spencer (01:19:42.425)
That's bomb. That's the hook.

Matt (01:19:43.807)
Listen, it's great. I would watch that for sure. Hey, if Ethan... I want to do a little role playing here. We're going to replace Ethan and we're going to replace the Traveler. The Traveler is not going to be John McClane and Ethan is Hans Gruber. How does this movie play out? Yeah.

Luciano (01:19:58.956)
Okay.

Spencer (01:20:05.165)
Wait, what? You mean the opposite? Sorry.

Luciano (01:20:06.208)
Wait, what? The opposite!

Luciano (01:20:12.92)
So wait, Hans Gruber is a TSA agent? And John McClane for some reason has become a terrorist.

Matt (01:20:15.623)
Yes, correct.

Spencer (01:20:16.833)
And Ethan...

Matt (01:20:19.613)
And ChamaClane is the trailer. I didn't say there were terrorists, I'm just saying we replaced those two characters. How does this play out? What if the TSA agent is the evil one? You take this where you will.

Spencer (01:20:29.721)
Please shut your bag at the door.

Luciano (01:20:31.297)
And.

Spencer (01:20:36.395)
What is this earpiece you have given me?

Luciano (01:20:40.142)
Why did it become Jar Jar Binks all of a sudden?

Spencer (01:20:42.681)
No! Mr. JJ Dings!

Matt (01:20:45.215)
I'm Bill Clay.

Luciano (01:20:49.902)
Buick play, yeah.

Spencer (01:20:52.569)
The American whoa, whoa, what what's going on? What's happening?

Luciano (01:20:58.958)
Alright.

So John McLean wants to smuggle a nerve gas into the plane for whatever reason.

Spencer (01:21:10.177)
Is the plane, hypothetically, the plane a 100 to 200 story building called Noctave Plaza by chance?

Luciano (01:21:18.2)
called Nakatomi Plaza.

Matt (01:21:21.221)
It is.

That's the right way to call this. You know how Voltron is a series of things put together? It's like that. Yeah, that's correct, yeah.

Spencer (01:21:29.569)
Yes?

Luciano (01:21:29.846)
Right. It's a series of planes that become a building.

Spencer (01:21:33.977)
That you can say it's a series of materials like concrete, don't rebar. Okay, planes.

Matt (01:21:40.323)
No, no, no, no planes. Well, five or so planes combined to make Nakatomi plaza.

Luciano (01:21:42.018)
Planes. Yeah.

Spencer (01:21:44.812)
Okay.

Luciano (01:21:47.051)
Okay.

Spencer (01:21:48.075)
Welcome

Luciano (01:21:57.582)
Now now he became he became whatever the name of the house elf from Harry Potter is Dobby is free

Matt (01:21:57.733)
This action is all over the fucking map.

Spencer (01:22:03.257)
I mean, my name is... I... I... Get it? No, I just hear Dabby. My name is Ethan, and I'm your American agent. Free Ethan.

Matt (01:22:03.999)
Davi.

Luciano (01:22:12.667)
He can't do it anymore.

Matt (01:22:13.299)
Hahaha!

Matt (01:22:18.623)
You

Luciano (01:22:26.048)
I'm also free.

Matt (01:22:26.441)
Perfect.

Luciano (01:22:33.912)
Yeah.

Spencer (01:22:34.158)
so I don't know how to write this with John McClane being a terrorist.

Luciano (01:22:38.794)
Yeah, so I was just gonna say, so hands first change that happens is hands grouber just lets the thing go no threat required because his hands grouber obviously so

Spencer (01:22:49.785)
And then John McLean's like, you became a fucker.

Luciano (01:22:53.838)
Yeah, I'm gonna nerve gas this plane building for some reason.

Spencer (01:22:58.297)
My wife left me because I'm a raging alcoholic and fuck you I guess and Then he blows up the Plaza because there's no hero in this story

Luciano (01:23:12.834)
Yeah, but it was a nerve agent and there was nobody inside the building so nobody dies.

Matt (01:23:13.587)
No, he's still the hero. And the monsters were on the plane all along.

Luciano (01:23:21.39)
I don't

Matt (01:23:22.163)
He tricked Hans Gerber into killing all his friends. Hans's friends, not John's.

Spencer (01:23:26.839)
I've blown up this plaza for money.

Luciano (01:23:27.873)
You

All your friends are in there, you idiot.

Hahaha!

Spencer (01:23:36.833)
And scene!

Matt (01:23:37.823)
And... C.

Luciano (01:23:41.934)
There you go. Think we nailed it.

Matt (01:23:46.655)
Great job. Let's give some reviews and rankings on this movie. We watched

Spencer (01:23:48.857)
That was freaking madness. Okay. I mean, he threw a big curveball. John McClane being the terrorist and Jen Hoffgemer being the police officer. I just don't, that's tough.

Luciano (01:23:51.746)
That was, that was, I mean, even for us, that was out there.

Matt (01:23:55.551)
I mean, that's fine. We watch carry on. That's

Luciano (01:24:00.468)
Yeah, yeah. My favorite part about this was the Voltron building. That was the best part.

Matt (01:24:04.371)
You're welcome.

Spencer (01:24:07.353)
I mean that was fantastic.

Matt (01:24:10.941)
Any time, let's review this movie. We use our patented rating system as tiered. We made it, it's ours. We are the inventors. Don't try to steal or copy it from us. S is the highest, F is the lowest. We are litigious, just like Elon Musk.

Luciano (01:24:20.91)
Yeah, we will sue.

Luciano (01:24:27.2)
Jesus Christ.

Spencer (01:24:28.089)
I'm torn on this movie because of the first half of the movie I really enjoyed. And it's like the second half I did not enjoy, but it made me not like I didn't like it because it wasn't the first half and it was like a different movie. So like both movies on their own, like would would kind of work. And it's like, does the change deter the first half?

Matt (01:24:29.631)
Spencer.

Luciano (01:24:44.385)
as much.

Spencer (01:24:57.845)
and vice versa, know, it's a weird thing to review. Cause they're both done like fine. The first half I would have given like a B and the second half I probably would have given a D. So I'm going to go right in the middle and give it an A. No, I'm going to give it a C because I think that's only fair. I much would have preferred though if it's

Matt (01:25:09.353)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (01:25:09.528)
Mm-hmm.

Matt (01:25:17.129)
see.

Luciano (01:25:19.405)
Wait, what?

Okay

Spencer (01:25:26.317)
first half movie of it being like a, like I said, like a chess match continued. And it just was like, like them throughout the whole movie until they finally come to a confrontation in the end in person, you know?

Matt (01:25:30.153)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:25:38.498)
But then how they have made the obvious diehard connection if that were the case? Yeah, I know. Nowadays, yeah, yeah.

Spencer (01:25:42.967)
I mean, that would, that you would have to make like your own original film, which I think is illegal in it at this point of time. think 2025 they've actually passed a law. You cannot have any original properties.

Matt (01:25:56.617)
true. I think you're you're correct. Okay, Lucy, I don't do you want to just say anything different than what Spencer said?

Luciano (01:26:02.862)
Not really, actually. had a similar, like I started, I went in with not really knowing much about what the movie was about and that sort of tense, like I was like, oh, this is an actual thriller, not a thriller disguised as something else. Nope, wrong, fuck you. like I didn't really, like I didn't dislike the movie, but you know, talking today as usually does kind of brought it a little bit further down for me. I was already like thinking.

Matt (01:26:19.519)
Surprise!

Luciano (01:26:31.584)
is this is either like a very low B or like a high C, but actually it lands right in the middle of C for me. It's not that I didn't enjoy it, but they kind of promised me something and didn't deliver. that, like Spencer said, like the last part of the movie was set up, like the first part of the movie was set up, like the last part of the movie would be fine.

Right? That would be a C too, or maybe a D if it was badly done. But sort of the juxtaposition is kind of like, what's happening? And it would bring it down from a B to a C for me. So, C.

Matt (01:27:11.199)
Fair enough. I have a slightly different thought on the movie. think the first part was an A, was excellent, I had a great time. And the second part, if I can get this math correctly, it was an E, it was horrible, it was stupid. And so I'm gonna average it into a C.

Luciano (01:27:16.887)
You're wrong.

Luciano (01:27:26.766)
This is gonna be a C anyway. Alright, bye.

Spencer (01:27:29.953)
Perfect.

Matt (01:27:34.074)
Everything you guys said like it it could have been really good But they just took two halves of like they clearly didn't know how to take the thriller and end it they I think they boxed themselves into a tight corner with a the TSA agent thing and so the only way to do was to go action II but But if they had at least gone actually in a way that made sense they might have been able to land the plane pun intended

Spencer (01:27:55.161)
ho, professional reviewer here!

Matt (01:28:00.07)
out. You're welcome.

Luciano (01:28:01.218)
Good job.

Spencer (01:28:01.497)
Unfortunately, the plot never really took off.

Luciano (01:28:04.426)
Yeah, you couldn't pass scrutiny. Yeah, that's what TSA does. Scrutinizes everything you do. Because I'm me. Have you met me?

Matt (01:28:04.944)
Ayyyy

What? Fuck you. Why can't you just play along with the plane? We're done here. Get out of here. Get out of here. It's too late. Lucian ruined it. We watched. We will watch next week. We're going to watch. is it? Is it called the Lord of the Rings? Is it actually titled that way? The Lord of the Rings Goal in Space. The War of the Rohirrim.

Spencer (01:28:08.963)
What?

Spencer (01:28:13.132)
my god.

Spencer (01:28:18.137)
It's really weird but there's some turbulence along the way.

Rude.

Luciano (01:28:28.078)
Here we go. Yes. Yeah. It's a dry name. Yes.

Spencer (01:28:32.12)
Yeah.

Spencer (01:28:37.625)
Or as we call it...

Luciano (01:28:37.91)
Hey, he landed it. He landed it. Nice.

Matt (01:28:38.143)
The 2024 vehicle, starring Luke Pasquilino as Wolf.

Luciano (01:28:44.64)
that guy.

Spencer (01:28:45.785)
We just call it TLOTR, TWOTR for short.

Luciano (01:28:51.306)
O-T-U-R. Yeah. Water, water. It's water, water.

Matt (01:28:55.647)
I'm Sean Duly as Freckah.

Spencer (01:28:58.794)
off the 8.

Luciano (01:29:00.637)
Hahaha

Matt (01:29:01.617)
and Michael Wildsman as General Targ.

Spencer (01:29:01.945)
to lauter water.

Luciano (01:29:03.477)
Lotter water. Hot, hot.

Matt (01:29:07.539)
Brian Cox's helm.

Spencer (01:29:08.867)
Brian Cox.

Luciano (01:29:10.027)
Brian Cox, nice. Who does he play?

Matt (01:29:11.005)
Yeah. Helm. Hel-elm.

Spencer (01:29:12.163)
Helm, did you not listen? Maybe you should be stopped listening to the TSA terminology. Start listening.

Luciano (01:29:15.603)
clearly not.

Luciano (01:29:22.21)
No.

Spencer (01:29:23.289)
Matt (01:29:24.773)
Ahhhh...

Luciano (01:29:25.166)
You

the ultimate put down? No.

Matt (01:29:31.295)
Anyways, we're gonna watch that mess of a title. It's animated. will hopefully be back. We'll have fun things to say about it or not and stuff and things. Thanks for listening. Bye.

Spencer (01:29:31.993)
OOOOH

Spencer (01:29:45.017)
Thanks for

Matt (01:29:49.183)
You just sound like you've had a head injury.

Luciano (01:29:51.584)
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like you needed to be in the airtight tank.

Spencer (01:29:55.809)
Let me just say Alan Rickman to recalibrate, okay? Alan Rickman...

Matt (01:29:59.38)
Okay.