Matt (00:00.556)
Hello, welcome back to Popcorn and Plot Holes. This week we are tackling, attempting, we're talking about Megan, the AI powered, slightly murderous robot.

Luciano (00:15.841)
..whitely murders?

Matt (00:17.56)
I mean, she could have done a lot more murders and she refused.

Luciano (00:20.298)
Fair. So the incompetent murderous AI.

Matt (00:27.712)
Yeah, I feel like when you're on a killing spree, you might as well just spree it up, you know?

Luciano (00:32.002)
Fair.

Matt (00:33.735)
With me this week, as you heard, is Luciano.

Luciano (00:37.635)
Yes, I'm here and I hate AI.

Matt (00:43.004)
And we also have Chris from Parts Known.

Chris (00:46.442)
Parts known indeed. I hope our listeners, there's a certain degree of listeners that are parents as well, because going through this is definitely, it's gonna be very cathartic, I have to say. It, for me, it will.

Luciano (01:02.243)
Or is it?

Matt (01:03.928)
We'll find out. We are missing the fourth member, Spencer. He decided that even though he named this series of movies, the Jackathon, he decided to jackathon off to Greece for a few weeks. So you're welcome. So he's not joining us, so it's just gonna be the three of us for the second movie in the Jackathon, AKA the Jack-O-Lantern-A-Thon for Halloween.

Chris (01:15.864)
Oh

Luciano (01:17.395)
Ah! Oh no.

Chris (01:19.318)
phrasing.

Luciano (01:31.352)
Chris went outside to laugh. That's what you guys heard just now.

Matt (01:33.652)
Yeah, that's what it was. Let's talk about Megan. Megan is the, was it 2022, 2021?

Chris (01:35.718)
Mic control, mic control.

Chris (01:42.058)
Yes. Two.

Luciano (01:42.542)
2022, 2023, I think it was January 2023.

Matt (01:45.416)
Yeah, it's a movie about AI robot that is designed to be a toy and does what all toys do, murder things and people. Thoughts on the movie? Anyone?

Chris (01:46.359)
Thank you.

Chris (01:56.969)
Yes.

Luciano (02:04.554)
Uh, a few, yes. Um, my first thought is a question for the both of you. What genre was this movie?

Matt (02:06.692)
Great, share, go yes.

Matt (02:14.092)
Well, we are supposed to do movies from the genres of fantasy, action, comics, thrillers, and sci-fi. We thought this was a thriller. I was not thrilled by this movie.

Luciano (02:29.207)
Nor nor sci-fied was I yeah

Matt (02:31.308)
Nor sci-fi, no. No, because they didn't use any science.

Luciano (02:37.426)
No, no, it was a lot of fiction. Okay.

Matt (02:39.564)
Well, I mean, nah. Fantasy, I guess, is what we're going with. Heavy science fiction fantasy.

Luciano (02:47.625)
Ugh.

Chris (02:48.962)
This movie was...

Luciano (02:49.902)
covering three of the five... Five? Six? Five.

Matt (02:54.925)
Bye.

Chris (02:54.998)
I see your logic, but at the same time, I feel like we've stepped outside of our domain of mastery because this movie was more like a documentary on through the lens of ancestry and me, AI. How does Megan find her connections and roots with her long lost relative Chuck A?

Luciano (03:03.742)
Yeah, we did.

Luciano (03:20.085)
And her long-lost descendant Skynet.

Chris (03:23.37)
Hmm twice removed from Wally cuz

Matt (03:23.91)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (03:28.279)
No, don't bring, don't you dare bring Wally into this. Yeah.

Matt (03:30.836)
Yeah, you can't suddenly Wally's name like that. How many people did Wally murder intentionally?

Chris (03:33.354)
Listen.

Luciano (03:36.055)
Yeah.

Chris (03:36.49)
The only one he murdered was, the only, the only thing he murdered was Eve's box. HAHAHAHAHAHA! You walked into that one! You walked into that one!

Luciano (03:41.334)
Exactly. Oh my god. I thought he was just gonna say I thought he was gonna say Eve and I agreed too soon

Matt (03:41.952)
Wow. Welcome back to.

Chris (03:49.858)
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe hehehe hehehe

Matt (03:50.162)
You did welcome back to the Jackathon

Luciano (03:55.854)
There's a lot of port to port connections there.

Chris (03:56.386)
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Matt (03:56.73)
Um...

There was a lot of thank you. Good job. No, so Megan like, you know, we're gonna get into some plot holes We'll try to spoil them in the next section. But you know, I guess I'll start with Allison Williams portraying Gemma the sort of lead Architect I don't want to call her scientist because that's not right at all Developer, I don't know what she does robotics

Chris (04:09.11)
Everybody dies.

Luciano (04:19.03)
Please don't do that for my sake. Don't color developer. Yes. There you go.

Chris (04:23.228)
The lead murderer.

Matt (04:25.104)
Well, she didn't commit any murderers. Murderers? She enabled them. So she is a robotics engineer and she built this robot, Bruce, which comes into play later. Great foreshadowing, everybody. Paint by numbers movie. Like thank you for just spelling everything out. So you know, that works. What? I don't, there's nothing, I don't, I don't know if Alison Williams is a good actor. I think she has the ability. But

Chris (04:27.746)
Oh.

Luciano (04:28.078)
She enabled them.

Chris (04:38.059)
Yeah.

Luciano (04:41.26)
Yeah.

Matt (04:54.208)
The question I have rolling around my head is...

Was it James Wan or James Lind that directed this?

Luciano (05:02.879)
Lin, I think.

Chris (05:04.498)
No, it was Gerard Johnstone. So maybe James was a producer.

Luciano (05:06.575)
Oh, none of the above.

Matt (05:09.332)
I was wrong on both accounts. Anyways, I'll confirm that that's your director. Anyways, did the director, the person Chris just mentioned, give her directions? Yeah, I just don't remember what you said. It's good podcasting. Did that person that Chris mentioned about an hour ago, did Gerard tell, did Jerry tell Alison Williams to be like a disconnected sociopath?

Chris (05:16.53)
I'm reading it. Yeah. Oh. His name is Gerard, sir.

Luciano (05:28.788)
Jerry, if you will.

Chris (05:32.002)
Yay.

Chris (05:37.072)
I know exactly. Go ahead, go ahead.

Luciano (05:38.894)
I was gonna say it's either that or she's like a really bad actress. I have never seen her in anything else. And so how was her portrayal in another?

Chris (05:46.525)
I have.

Chris (05:50.674)
In Get Out, she played it straight to the point of me being afraid of her. And then in her previous role, Girls, she was mostly wooden in that as well, you know, with inflections of human emotion. But,

Luciano (06:07.325)
So maybe it's her.

Luciano (06:11.626)
Cause to me she plays this in here. She is like, when, when she finds out her sister's dead, then she finds, you know, now I have to take care of my niece. And even throughout all of the shit that happens, she, she has like this slightly constipated phase the whole time. And I'm like, is she, is she like supposed to be like,

Chris (06:22.466)
Yeah.

Chris (06:31.111)
Like, hmm, what an inconvenience, hmm.

Luciano (06:36.098)
narcissistic psychopath with no empathy is that what you're supposed to be? Because if it is, job well done!

Matt (06:43.5)
Well, I think you have to be if you are said, hey, create a toy and you make up a hyper real, hyper real, it's not fair, hyper stylized version of AI that to me was just like, that's fucking a killing machine. That is a killing robot. That robot will kill immediately. The military wants this contract.

Luciano (07:01.066)
Well, even before, right? Yeah, and even before like the stuff she was working on, she was like, oh, I put in a listening thing on the other toys to learn from kids talking to each other. And it's addressed like in one sentence, you didn't just tell me this right now, and then dropped completely from the face of the earth. Yeah, and maybe she's supposed to be a little bit of a psychopath.

Chris (07:12.354)
Hmm. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Chris (07:23.912)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (07:28.606)
She plays it so straight, she plays the straight role into the ground of absurdity. I don't understand.

Luciano (07:36.574)
Actually, can we... It's not really a tangent, but can we talk about this? Because we were talking about the genre before we end into this, but like... Is... Is it supposed to be...

that this movie was tried to not take itself super seriously, but failed? Because I have that feeling. Because the first thing that we see is that stupid commercial for the toy, and it's so over the top dumb and like crazy. And then we see the other commercial and it's also crazy. And I got the feeling that it tried to be this sort of like sardonic kind of deal, but it failed completely to actually.

Chris (08:02.754)
Uh huh. Yeah. I'm sorry.

Luciano (08:19.902)
Like, did you guys have the same feeling? That it tried to be this like, ooh, super sarcastic sardonic thing and fell in its face?

Chris (08:27.326)
It was trying something for sure because you've got really strong, really strong cast mates, cast mates like Ronnie Chang, like lovely, lovely comedian, right? So how do you balance that in a horror thriller? Like it's like they brought the wrong ingredients for a cake that's supposed to be delicious. Does that make sense? Like,

Luciano (08:54.295)
I know what you mean. It's like they are trying to make like chocolate cake and someone brought in the finest cut of Parmigiano Reggiano. It's a good ingredient but doesn't fit. I see what you mean.

Chris (09:01.014)
Correct. And it doesn't, and this is not the fault of Ronnie at all, because his presence was great. It was like a great palate cleanser in the scenes he was in. Kurt, I liked him in it. I liked him in it. Him in, it didn't, but it's a palate cleanser for all the right and wrong reasons. This whole thing is like one terrible car wreck.

Luciano (09:13.19)
Oh, I disagree. I didn't like it because I don't think it fit.

Chris (09:30.878)
of our product. Hey, hey, oh, just pull over. Like we shouldn't. Daryl, just pull over. What do you expect me to do? I didn't put time. I didn't put chains on the tires.

Luciano (09:31.278)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Luciano (09:47.858)
Yeah. So that's what I mean. Like that movie, like it alternates from that commercial where it's supposed to like it's highly like sarcastic and sort of like some sort of a critique to something where it moves to straight up like horror with the whole like going to the mountains and that it can't see anything and get exploded by some truck or whatever. And the movie never really

Luciano (10:18.114)
Okay.

Matt (10:18.144)
Oh, it settles on not being a horror film at all.

Luciano (10:21.762)
It tried.

Matt (10:22.892)
This is not a horror film. A horror film, like, and to its credit, or not to its credit, but like, I appreciate them not showing all the murders graphically, because like, I don't want to see the dog die. I don't want to see the parents die. But like, they ripped off Brando's ear and tossed him in front of a truck. You got to see that. But like, after that, for whatever reason, you know, Ronnie Chang got stabbed, and Kirk got stabbed. But like, her, her

Luciano (10:33.479)
No, definitely. Yeah.

Chris (10:35.211)
Yeah.

Chris (10:40.684)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (10:45.794)
Yeah.

Chris (10:48.476)
impaled.

Luciano (10:51.032)
And why? Why did they get impaled when?

Matt (10:53.72)
But yet she didn't kill other the like tech assistants that didn't even get names that I saw. They were just like.

Chris (10:54.042)
Yeah.

Chris (10:57.738)
That's right. I'm going, you know?

Luciano (10:57.778)
Yeah, she just with them she just like they were holding her quote-unquote prisoner and she just walked away from them. Okay.

Matt (11:05.524)
I thought for sure she was going to kill him when she escaped.

Chris (11:09.298)
Especially the dude who was jousting her with the with the q-tip

Matt (11:11.262)
Yeah!

Luciano (11:12.126)
Now, yo, this is a cautionary tale, this movie, because that's what's gonna happen with the fucking Boston Dynamic robots who they keep fucking pushing with the same stick. That's gonna be us in a few years.

Chris (11:23.747)
Yeah, the American gladiators Q-tip.

Matt (11:24.835)
It's fine.

You need to push, you need to push. What I learned from this movie is if you push them, you're fine, they like you. It's the non-pushers that are the problem. That's right. Yeah, sorry. Cole and Tess were the two tech assistants.

Luciano (11:27.723)
Yeah.

Luciano (11:33.391)
Oh, it's respect, it's begrudging respect, I see. Oh, she tried to kill him, she tried to kill him.

Chris (11:36.886)
So you're not afraid of me, okay.

Chris (11:41.65)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (11:42.19)
She did try to kill him with the cables and stuff, right? She's like... But it was a... Oh no, that was the... What was that for? What did that do?

Chris (11:45.29)
True distraction.

Matt (11:46.496)
Yeah, but like that explosion? What was that? I don't know.

Chris (11:53.185)
It's punctuation on her exit.

Luciano (11:56.206)
That's what it honestly that's what it is like why when she runs into David in the corridor Why does she fucking dance like I almost died of cringe with that fucking dance? No, I cringe so hard

Matt (12:06.014)
A stripper?

Chris (12:06.342)
I died of laughter. This is yet another example of why Gemma is a terrible, a terrible newly minted parent, because your only job as a parent is to keep your child off the pole. And it's exactly what dang, what dang, what dang. Oh, yeah. Yeah, good. Thank you for seeing this.

Matt (12:27.288)
Chris Rock.

Luciano (12:28.654)
Oh my god, I don't think it looked like a pole dance, it looked like some awkward weird like... It was! It was a little too sexual but not...

Matt (12:34.38)
Bro, it was a little too sexual of a dance that made me very uncomfortable.

Chris (12:36.99)
Nah, she got the S-curve, she hit the S-curve way too well. She's supposed to be a child robot, not a child stripper. No thanks.

Matt (12:42.432)
Yeah. So, you know, I don't think this is a horror movie at all because nothing was like, I wasn't, I don't, I don't, you know, I don't love pure horror movies necessarily, I didn't need jump scares. I didn't need like, you know, I didn't need something as far as like, you know, Eli Ross, like, you know, what's that style, like the, yeah, torture porn, yeah.

Luciano (12:46.259)
Yeah, yeah, anyway.

Chris (12:59.927)
True.

Luciano (13:06.564)
What you're saying is you weren't expecting human centipede. Like you weren't expecting human centipede is what you're saying.

Chris (13:07.862)
Gore? I mean, horror porn? Torture porn.

Matt (13:13.992)
No, no I was not. But at this important time, I'm like, you know, it's a horror film, like when we watched, when we watched Friday the 13th, or we watched Halloween. That's right, when we watched Halloween, like there were a bunch of kills there, right? Like, and they're not graphic per se, but like you see them get killed, so it's just like, okay, this is a murder robot, let's go, you know, go murdering, and she's just like, nah, I guess. I'm gonna get around to it. I'm just gonna be mostly creepy and psychopathic and not actually get any of my things done.

Chris (13:23.71)
Nope. Oh, for.

Chris (13:28.502)
Yeah.

Luciano (13:41.642)
Just for our listeners, we're talking about a movie that we all watched for another life. But you know, maybe we'll find out later on why we watched it.

Chris (13:48.31)
Cough

Chris (13:53.738)
I have two rapid fire questions. One, do you know what this movie scored on Rotten Tomatoes?

Luciano (14:00.594)
So I don't remember what the critic score was, but I do remember the, um, yeah, the audience score is 93%. And like fucking how can 90% of the people be idiots? Like there's no way.

Matt (14:05.956)
Record well.

Chris (14:11.168)
And I'm late.

Matt (14:16.264)
Hey man, how many people love Big Bang Theory?

Luciano (14:18.902)
Fair.

Matt (14:20.76)
Like I think it's, like we'll get into it with the tech stuff. And when you don't know tech, it's like, that's a fun, that's a fun story. And then when you do know tech, it's just like, like I'm trying to suspend belief, but come on guys, like this is a bit much.

Luciano (14:32.098)
Kill me now.

No, they, in this movie, many a time, they took suspension of disbelief into an alley and shot it in the back of the head. A couple of times.

Matt (14:44.797)
The other thing I would also say is, we all love Terminator and we talked about Skynet, but in many ways, how many killer robots... Ha ha ha.

Chris (14:49.867)
Get down!

Luciano (14:52.998)
Yeah. Megan, get out!

Chris (14:56.082)
Megan! You must remember to floss!

Luciano (15:03.19)
Why?

Chris (15:04.354)
I told you to wash your hands with soap. Are you kidding me?

Matt (15:06.94)
Okay, Arnold would be a better parent, that's true. But like knowing the experience with murderous robots, I think it's like, listen, a murder robot story is always a great story, but I think for a lot of people, this is a new story, it's fresh, right? They don't have the baggage of all the murder robot stories we have that are arguably better.

Luciano (15:10.751)
What? Yeah.

Luciano (15:18.734)
Fair.

Yeah.

Luciano (15:28.158)
Right, but this, like even outside of comparisons, this is just not a good story in my book at least.

Chris (15:35.146)
Not according to Ron Tomatoes, the tomato meter scored higher than the dark night. The dark night, 93 percent, 93 percent. And then the audience was 78. This is apparently a horror slash mystery. It does what it says. It says.

Matt (15:41.177)
Hehehehehehehehehehe Nah

Luciano (15:42.462)
Yeah, I told you it was 93%!

Luciano (15:46.942)
No, it's the op- the opposite, no? Oh, is it the- It's the critics that liked- Oh my god. I thought it was the opposite.

Chris (15:52.778)
The critics and then this is a uh-uh. This is supposed to be a horror slash mystery. This is what it says. End thriller. How does a movie that's rated PG-13 pull this off?

Matt (16:04.792)
So it was a mystery? What was the mystery?

Chris (16:06.494)
It says horror mystery. Well, the mystery. Okay. Got him.

Luciano (16:08.863)
The mystery was who thought this was good? Who thought this was a good idea? That's the biggest fucking mystery.

Matt (16:09.912)
Hehe, got em.

Who could jump on it faster? Is the answer there. No, it's fine. The movie, like, you know, the movie wasn't bad. And we got to our ratings, you know, at the end of the show, but it wasn't... The movie, as I described it to my wife, is in the scenario where you want people to love you or hate you because at least they have an emotional reaction to you. And you never wanna be just like, they're just like, I don't even think about you. I had nothing to say about this movie initially. I was like, I don't know what I just watched. I feel like...

Chris (16:17.205)
Mm.

Chris (16:25.547)
Good.

Luciano (16:26.858)
Uh

Matt (16:42.712)
There's an hour and 40 minute void in my life that like, I have no emotional response to it. Yeah.

Luciano (16:45.498)
Yeah, yeah. Apathy is the feeling. Yeah.

Chris (16:49.246)
Doesn't sound like a good rating to me that you would find on a VHS box.

Luciano (16:52.919)
I, yeah, Megan, you won't mind it. Yeah, Megan, yeah, Megan, yeah. But what I read, like the little blurbs of reviews that I read, they were like, oh, the movie doesn't take itself seriously and it came here to be like, this is a good horror comedy. I'm like, where is the comedy bitch? There's no comedy in this.

Chris (16:56.786)
Megan, you're not gonna, you'll feel, Megan, you'll feel nothing.

Matt (16:56.913)
Eh.

Matt (17:02.164)
Yeah.

Chris (17:04.546)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Luciano (17:21.094)
We are, unless we are the clowns for watching it, then maybe. Yeah. But like I don't, unpaid clowns at that.

Chris (17:21.142)
Was one of the... Well, we were the clowns. We were the clowns. We were made to be clowns.

Chris (17:31.41)
The... Well, unpaid yes.

Luciano (17:35.414)
Hahaha!

Chris (17:36.243)
And I hope Megan didn't enter the house. It's a good thing I can see behind me. I heard the door, I heard a door open and shut. That's exactly, see look, I've learned a lot of things from my time, from horror movies. You pay attention to your surroundings. You don't like, oh, it was nothing. Let me just go back to what I was doing.

Luciano (17:39.442)
No, it's just Matt's fat ass sitting down in his chair.

Luciano (17:48.79)
from horror movies.

Matt (17:55.108)
Chris, that's because.

black people die first. That's why, right? That's why you're so you're so like on edge.

Luciano (18:01.118)
I was gonna say it, but I'm glad I didn't. Yeah, no, it's genre savvy. You should be savvy like that.

Matt (18:09.undefined)
Yeah. How many? So like, let's bring this back. Let's bring this back out of racism and back to podcasting. How many other genre tropes did this movie like knock off the board for horror?

Luciano (18:12.492)
Hahaha

Chris (18:13.493)
Hahahaha!

Chris (18:20.322)
COREY POWER! Uhhh...

Luciano (18:22.506)
I mean, it tried for sci-fi without the techno babble bullshit, but it, Oh, I thought I thought just a trope. Yeah. Uh, other horror tropes. Uh, so the dumb. Yeah.

Chris (18:26.434)
true.

Matt (18:27.192)
That's not a horror trope though, that's just a random thing it tried to do, yeah. No, no, I don't- no, but like, I want the horror tropes, yeah.

Chris (18:33.762)
Hmm jump scares. Oh true

Matt (18:35.724)
Like, she amps up her killing, right? At first it's just like, it's a little thing, just a dog, and then the dumb neighbor, and then a kid in the forest, and then just murdering people in the office building.

Luciano (18:44.234)
Yeah, but hear me hear me out. She kills the dog because the dog bit the girl. That's fine. That because it makes sense within the context of this movie. And then the woman comes in and like threatens them. And she's like, OK, I'm going to kill this woman, too. But then she does it with like a little bit too much glee and like cool and unusual, cruel and unusual punishment. It's like she could have just.

Chris (18:49.696)
Mm-hmm. Warranted. Dog had it coming. Megan was right. I'm sorry.

Matt (18:51.075)
Okay.

Matt (18:54.86)
Justified.

Luciano (19:13.846)
Like she had a nail gun. She could have just shot the woman in the head with a nail gun. But she decided to kill her with like, I don't know what that was, insecticide? Yeah, but there was...

Chris (19:20.994)
power, washer, pesticides.

Matt (19:23.38)
Also, well yeah. Yeah, cause it was brown liquid coming out of it.

Luciano (19:26.534)
Yeah, that was a little bit too like gleeful in its torture, you know what I mean?

Matt (19:31.992)
Do I not understand how power washers work? Because I was sort of confused when she shot that old lady with a power washer and she flew back 50 feet. Like I don't- I know it's a pressure washer, but I don't think it's like that pressurized.

Chris (19:41.73)
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Luciano (19:46.026)
Maybe she hacked it like she hacked every fucking thing else in this movie and it shot a lot faster No, please don't accept that as an explanation chris, please

Chris (19:49.666)
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Matt (19:55.243)
You brought it here.

Chris (19:57.677)
Well, it's that lack of show and tell. Like it could have been that first glimmer of her, you know, amping up the volume or the output without physically interacting with the thing.

Luciano (20:04.622)
Yep. But that's, but why? I think that was one of the main things that I got. No, but why did she have to do that when she had, she's a computer, right? She had a nail gun. Why wouldn't she just use the most efficient method? Just shoot the woman full of nails.

Chris (20:11.37)
to make it lethal, because it might not have been lethal before.

Chris (20:18.015)
Uh-huh.

Matt (20:29.62)
Where did Megan, Megan learned that death is trivial, but where did Megan learn to be a sociopath? What website did Megan read that was just like, when you kill somebody, make sure you do it in the most fucked up way possible.

Chris (20:33.451)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (20:44.01)
Gary Buesche's autobiography side.

Luciano (20:46.522)
Yeah, that would do it. I think what happened is, because she's an AI, so she learns not just from what she sees, but from her own experiences. I think she spent a few evenings maybe watching reality TV, and that's what happened. Like.

Chris (20:51.682)
Okay.

Chris (21:01.614)
Mm hmm. I think plus one, I think she learned from going down the pathway of like she was trying to unpack the pricing models from ancestry and me. And she was like, Oh, wait a minute. What are these? Is this home footage of my long lost cousin Chuckie? What are his methods? Why did he do that? I can I can take a lie.

Luciano (21:27.618)
So I think Chris, just like the people in Hollywood, doesn't really understand how AIs work. Chris, AIs are not alive. They don't have DNA. They can't have ancestry. I hate to break this to you. I hate that I have to be the one to tell you this. Ha ha

Chris (21:35.446)
Do it.

Chris (21:41.442)
This is comedy, my friend. You have broken nothing! You've broken nothing!

Matt (21:44.608)
Hey man.

This is the worst yes and space I've ever worked in. And I don't care for it.

Matt (21:57.776)
I will point out that you basically said that the robot learned to be a murderer by watching... What was it? Reality TV. My wife watches a lot of reality TV. Should I be concerned?

Chris (22:04.086)
horror movies. Chuckie! Uh, Chatswade. Hmm.

Luciano (22:04.67)
Reality TV.

Chris (22:10.206)
What show was it? What show was it? Was it? Oh, well, we need to say something to go off of. Is it like what is that million dollar listing? Could it have been that?

Luciano (22:10.61)
Yes. No, just yes. Flat out yes.

Matt (22:20.758)
Why is that your reference point for reality TV?

Luciano (22:22.138)
Yeah, that's so, that is so weird. I was gonna say the deadliest catch, but you know.

Chris (22:24.922)
It doesn't matter. I asked you for help. Oh, that sounds scary.

Matt (22:31.136)
What, how would you learn about murder through billion dollar listing?

Chris (22:34.998)
Because!

Luciano (22:35.109)
Yeah, right.

Matt (22:39.436)
The decor is deadly.

Luciano (22:42.559)
Ayyyyyy! She learned her taste for killing from hating puns. That's what happened.

Chris (22:43.243)
The agent made a killing on that sale.

Matt (22:50.28)
Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, I hate this line of conversation. Let's switch to something completely different. The movie. We've talked about Allison Williams is acting. She was there. You know, let's- this is a fun topic because I know historical Luciano hates child actors. He wishes they are applied on- This is- They're applied on humanity is what you told me. And I just want to know how you thought the two child actors did in this movie.

Chris (22:52.75)
facts.

Chris (23:00.385)
wooden

Luciano (23:02.626)
Hahaha!

Luciano (23:09.286)
What? I never said that.

Luciano (23:19.706)
Um, I actually think that Violet McGraw who plays Katie was the best actress in this whole movie. Honest to God, not even kidding. Because I like she made like I was convinced that she was grieving and like being a spoiled child grieving basically. Chris don't be this way. You're a parent. Don't be this way. No, but like

Chris (23:23.33)
Children.

Chris (23:40.098)
piece of shit.

Chris (23:44.114)
I'm doing it. I am a parent and I was pissed.

Luciano (23:48.542)
You know, there are some, that's why I think a lot of the problems here lie with the direction more than with the actors, because in a lot of the scenes where Katie was there, like I was believing, you know, she was selling whatever emotion, like when she has that conversation with Megan when they're doing the demonstration and she cries and she said, like I believed all that, like it was very touching, right? But then there are some other scenes where she's like...

Chris (24:15.37)
eating a hot dog and menacingly. Fine, fine, Gemma. Nom nom.

Luciano (24:18.601)
No, no.

Luciano (24:22.646)
Yeah, so that's, no, that scene where she's like in the car. No, no, not the beginning, but like when she's being taken to, yeah. Like it was like, like it was so out of the blue. The girl that plays Megan, I don't remember her name. I don't know how much of her acting is in this. I know it's a little bit, but that's it, yeah. I think she did.

Chris (24:26.39)
kicking no thanks yeah she did it the second time she did a second time

Mm hmm. The character.

Chris (24:45.922)
Good question.

Matt (24:47.095)
Amy Donald.

Luciano (24:51.29)
I was creeped out and I think that was the that was the idea. So good job there, but

Chris (24:55.713)
Mm.

Matt (24:57.836)
Yeah, they did use another actor's voice for her, so...

Luciano (25:00.178)
Yeah, it's what yeah, it's an older another person right that does the voice. Yeah I was very creeped out. So good job there I especially hated the singing all the fucking singing she did why I was so angry at that

Chris (25:01.282)
Jenna Davis or something.

Hmm. Hmm hmm hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was very out of place.

Matt (25:19.628)
wasn't singing, it was her playing songs off Spotify.

Luciano (25:24.774)
No, she was she literally sang when Katie was crying I was angry

Chris (25:25.534)
I could accept that. Her mouth was moving.

Matt (25:31.34)
You didn't like titanium?

Luciano (25:33.266)
No. Titanium. No, I didn't.

Chris (25:36.07)
Uh, it does take me back to when I was, um, when I was a kid and I had a simo, not a simo, I didn't have an AI powered, uh, robot toy, but I did have a

Matt (25:44.46)
Teddy Ruxpin? He's powered by AI for sure.

Chris (25:47.506)
Well, I love that. Mine was, his name was Corky, and you would put a cassette tape in the back, and then his mouth would move and his eyes. And when I was younger, like when I first got it, it was adorable. But then when I got older, he was creepy as fuck, especially when the Child's Play ads would roll through TV. And I was like, I don't like having this anymore. And I started to beat up, and I-

Luciano (25:47.992)
Wow, Teddy Ruxpin, Jesus.

Luciano (26:08.165)
Somebody buried this motherfucker in the yard.

Chris (26:11.11)
You know, and I would like suplex and practice all my wrestling moves on Corky because I just had to release the demon soul from within.

Matt (26:18.948)
So wait, your demon soul or Corki's demon soul?

Luciano (26:21.886)
Yes. Yes, it's just yes. Also don't besmirch the good name of Child's Play with this movie, because Child's Play is a fun movie. Okay, I'm actually, I was actually scared. I was actually scared of Chuck in my whole childhood. No, because he was Ginger. Oh, you wouldn't know anything about that, man.

Chris (26:22.063)
I said what I said.

Matt (26:25.636)
Okay, great.

Chris (26:33.22)
I won't take that from you.

Matt (26:39.568)
You fucking loser.

Chris (26:39.662)
Yeah, rightfully so. What?

Oh my gosh. For our listeners, that was an insult because of facts. Oh my God. Oh my God.

Luciano (26:48.818)
No, it wasn't. It was just the truth. Hahahaha Yeah. I'm sorry, I meant strawberry disgusting.

Matt (26:55.684)
It's fine.

Matt (26:59.032)
That's better, thank you. That's our word.

Luciano (27:03.302)
We're taking it back.

Matt (27:04.868)
Thank you for taking it back. So I do, so this movie was an hour and 40 minutes and we show up, Katie's parents die. Honestly, I don't know why we needed to see that. We could have just shown up and Katie, and it's fine, Katie shows up at your doorstep and she throws this robot to her feet and was like, make friends with this robot.

Chris (27:11.996)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (27:19.615)
Yeah.

Chris (27:23.361)
Hmm.

Chris (27:28.659)
Hmm.

Luciano (27:29.107)
Yeah, make friends with this robot because I fucking can't be bothered to raise you.

Chris (27:32.934)
I've got a presentation tomorrow at 10 a.m. and Auntie has needs. Cues the dildo.

Luciano (27:35.702)
Fuck you. Yeah. Ha ha ha.

Matt (27:37.036)
Yeah. Wow. That's not the kind of presentation. This is not the jack-of-all-en-shes you're thinking of. But so as soon as possible, Allison Williams is like, go do something else, right? Go here. Yeah. Use the iPad screen time right now. And mom needs proof. And so we get to the point where

Chris (27:51.254)
I don't care. She's like, I don't care. Take the time.

Luciano (27:56.696)
Mm-hmm. Mummy needs Bruce. Ha ha ha!

Matt (28:06.304)
She's supposed to create a smaller version of the perpetual pet. What do they call those things?

Luciano (28:11.638)
Perfect. Per- No, per-petro-pets with a Z. I f- I fucking hate all of that.

Chris (28:13.075)
Uh...

Matt (28:13.992)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just professional pet. And they gotta make a smaller version because they gotta crush the competition, who I guess is Hasbro. Well, just side by, I don't think you're competing against the right company if you think you're competing against Hasbro. What do I know? Maybe Hasbro paid for their name to be in this movie. And so they do this, can you explain the office they work in? Because they show it many times. It is a 50-story tower.

Luciano (28:29.879)
Yep.

Luciano (28:43.882)
Yeah.

Chris (28:44.118)
Hmm.

Matt (28:45.469)
Why is everything fucking red?

Luciano (28:49.23)
I don't know. What? Why does? Yeah, I was going to say, why does that theater room look like it belonged in a theater from the 50s with red velvet and shit? I don't understand who the designer was with that. Yeah, yes, yes. I don't under- oh, no. Oh, no. I don't understand any of it.

Matt (28:50.22)
Who painted these walls red? Who painted? What is that theater room?

Matt (29:07.116)
That's where snuff films were made, in that theater.

Chris (29:11.138)
foreshadowing, red, the color of our enemy's blood.

Luciano (29:17.15)
What kind of an office is it that where apparently someone can just move their lab wherever the fuck they want and can change the security of the door so that nobody can come in and also use $100,000 however they want without any approval?

Chris (29:31.298)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, we're kind. What kind?

Matt (29:34.66)
She's a super genius. That's, that's, you didn't know. You didn't pick that up?

Luciano (29:37.402)
Come on. No, no, I wasn't buying what they were selling, if that's what you're asking. I don't know. I don't understand. Usually that sort of, because they had to have a manufacturing site to actually build the toys and do that. That's usually not in a.

Matt (29:43.645)
Hmm, that's interesting. That seems like a weird choice on your part.

Chris (29:46.934)
Double down on that.

Like it's why and then keep going.

Chris (30:01.693)
Mm-hmm.

Matt (30:03.605)
Sure.

Luciano (30:05.75)
building like that is usually like a plan somewhere where...

Chris (30:08.578)
somewhere else.

Matt (30:08.768)
That's why they got a very expensive face ship to them from Parts Unknown.

Chris (30:12.311)
pretty deep.

they probably use like what how do you how do you pull off a titanium alloy body for your build like you can't can you 3d

Luciano (30:22.674)
and a hundred thousand dollars only no i don't think you can 3d print titanium

Chris (30:25.974)
Can you 3D print that? I don't know. You gotta cast that, right?

Matt (30:29.116)
No, you would order it from somebody. That's fine, they can get all the parts from somewhere. I'm not too concerned about that. I'm concerned about, you're trampling all over the first plot hole, so let's just drive into it since you won't let it go at this point. They spent $100,000 of the company's money, and Ronnie Chang is very unhappy and they're very scared because they spent $100,000 of the company's money to build Megan. And then Megan's face explodes because

Luciano (30:42.577)
Hahaha!

Chris (30:50.007)
Yeah.

Luciano (30:52.993)
Right.

Chris (30:53.034)
Yeah.

Chris (30:57.286)
Huh.

Matt (30:58.668)
Cole does not put on, and let's see if I quoted this correctly. He forgets to add the, is it polypropylene barrier? Was that what it was? Yeah, the barrier. And so that makes her face melt and explode. And then Alison Williams takes her home and fixes her in what I can tell is what, two weeks basically? Because they, a week? A week because they have the presentation and they push it a week. So it's a week. So a couple of questions here.

Luciano (31:08.03)
All the propylene, yeah, yeah.

Luciano (31:20.85)
At most, yeah. Yeah.

Chris (31:25.89)
Hmm.

Matt (31:28.724)
Why does everybody think $100,000 is a lot of money? And secondarily, how did any of this get done in the timeframe they show us?

Chris (31:37.439)
montage.

Luciano (31:37.771)
Uh... It's like...

Matt (31:41.292)
Chris, I know you like movies, but montages are something to show actual time in a smaller space. It could be the worst montage, but it still takes a bunch of time to create that montage. You catch what I'm throwing down?

Chris (31:44.923)
Yes.

Chris (31:53.758)
I didn't say it was a good montage. I should, allow me to rephrase. Oh, oh, oh.

Luciano (32:04.485)
So your question is how do they make that work?

Chris (32:06.37)
Boost time!

Matt (32:09.676)
How do they build Megan in a week with $100,000? Yeah. Don't say montage. Don't do it.

Luciano (32:12.514)
So, okay, hear me out. Hear me out. So, no, I won't, I won't, I won't. So, no, they have to, they needed money to rebuild her after being told that they couldn't use company resources anymore, right? So let's assume that they had some leftover money, whatever. So hear me out, hear me out. Cause like,

Chris (32:16.662)
Didn't they fix her? She was built already, but she was fixed.

Matt (32:19.401)
Okay, sure.

Chris (32:27.112)
Oh shit.

Chris (32:31.798)
from what? How do they make up the rest? Yeah, go, go.

Luciano (32:38.218)
Gemma was the head developer, engineer, whatever. She knew how to do all of those things. She even knew how to paint the robot pretty and do all the things. So that's the thing. So what were those other two, the two assistants, what were they doing? They had contacts in sweatshops all over Asia.

Matt (32:45.176)
For the entire company, it seems.

Chris (32:47.682)
Fill in.

Chris (32:52.983)
Cause fuck her teammates.

Luciano (33:06.962)
And that's what they brought into the table. They were able to make this with a hundred thousand dollars because they had actual children building all of the parts in parts unknown.

Chris (33:16.242)
I knew you would get here eventually. And to that I say, what took you so long? Ha.

Luciano (33:25.282)
I was trying to see the good in people, Chris. My mistake.

Chris (33:29.127)
This Jackathon has been brought to you by the goodness in Luciano's heart.

Luciano (33:32.522)
Yeah, I thought you were going to say this Jackathon was brought to you by Foxconn, but no, okay, that's good. Yeah, that's the only way, Matt, to answer your question. That's the only way that they could do this with like peanuts.

Matt (33:36.768)
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want to be here.

Chris (33:37.266)
like Foxconn. More like Foxconn.

Matt (33:48.084)
But why do they settle on $100,000? First, because two questions. No, but this is a real movie. This is a movie that's trying to be serious, I think, to some degree. Maybe. In a world where this movie is trying to be serious, at least in terms of the AI robot it builds, why is $100,000 a lot of company money? Because like,

Luciano (33:52.062)
It's a Dr. Evil problem.

Hahaha

Chris (33:58.146)
Hehehehe

Luciano (34:01.415)
Is it?

Chris (34:03.238)
It tried, but it...

Luciano (34:06.414)
I...

Chris (34:08.78)
Hmm.

Luciano (34:14.846)
Right.

Matt (34:17.1)
Based on having been an employee of companies, her alone, the salary for Gemma alone, if she's creating these robots from scratch, minimum, right? And so, like, so like one of these, and maybe the problem is the rate they sell these robots at because the price they market them at $10,000 seems a little low. And that's a whole other thing.

Luciano (34:25.182)
It's like five times this. At least. Yeah. Easily.

Chris (34:40.363)
Hmm.

Luciano (34:41.022)
Yeah, but think about it. If it costs $100,000 to build and they sell it at 10,000, they sold 10, they've recouped the costs. That's insane.

Matt (34:49.996)
But that's why I don't... But, but... So like... Okay, but I still don't think that $100,000 is a big deal. No one would be mad. You...

Luciano (34:56.406)
No, it doesn't make any sense. I'm agreeing with you. Yeah. Like a hundred, like invested a hundred thousand dollars into a next generation AI robot. That'd be.

Matt (35:06.58)
Ronnie'd be a little mad that she didn't make her cheaper version, but when she had spent $100,000 and made a futuristic AI robot, it's like, all right, I'm past it now.

Luciano (35:09.568)
Yeah.

Luciano (35:14.382)
They'd be like, no, even worse, they'd be like, damn, like fucking hell, you just revolutionized the fucking, the world of AI and technology for $100,000. That's amazing. That's less than, that's like more, that's less than you make in half a year. Like.

Chris (35:19.222)
Thanks for the, thanks for, you really, you pulled out a W.

Chris (35:25.826)
Hmm. He would have promoted her, yeah, on the spot.

Chris (35:33.526)
So I think you're right. Like the $100,000 is a bit of an odd number because, yeah, and the CEO didn't, yeah, Ronnie didn't, yeah, go ahead. Go, go, go.

Luciano (35:38.004)
It's a Dr. Evil problem. 100%.

Matt (35:42.496)
Yeah, but Dr. Evil, but, sorry Chris, I just wanna dispute this point because Dr. Evil did that intentionally. That was a joke for Dr. Evil. So you can't call the Dr. Evil problem because they're not trying to make the Dr. Evil joke. They are not.

Luciano (35:48.679)
Oh, I know. That's what I.

Luciano (35:54.93)
Are they not? Because I think they were trying to be like... At times they are trying to be funny.

Matt (36:01.664)
That's not, there's no, you cannot convince me anywhere that that's funny. There's no way. And you wouldn't try to make that funny. You just wouldn't.

Luciano (36:05.25)
No, it's not it's not funny. Yeah, I think Yeah What do you think would be a better figure a hundred million dollars?

Chris (36:11.935)
I didn't read that as money in this movie. Hmm.

Matt (36:17.846)
Yeah, at least several millions of monies.

Chris (36:21.302)
but is the objective to make it funny as opposed to making the dollar amount viable for the prototype that they made. It sounded like they were trying to make that amount of money seem viable, seem realistic, but you guys are looking at it. That's what I'm saying. You guys are looking at it with a lens. I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're looking at it through a lens.

Luciano (36:21.991)
Hahaha!

Luciano (36:36.33)
Yeah but it's not realistic.

Matt (36:40.532)
I'm, no. I'm not even saying that the amount of money is wrong. I'm just saying I don't know why Ronnie Chen is so mad that they spent $100,000.

Chris (36:45.856)
Mm.

Luciano (36:50.115)
Fuck the character name, it's just Ronny Chieng now.

Chris (36:50.43)
Racism. It's racism. They did I think they did that trying to be funny they and it didn't it didn't land at all. It was a at all

Matt (36:58.344)
I don't think, I would argue to the ends of the world that was not an attempt to be funny, because for a joke to be funny, there has to be some sort of set up or some sort of impetus for the joke. And he just shows up and they're all scared of him because he's mad about $100,000. It just does not make sense.

Luciano (36:59.38)
No.

Yeah.

Luciano (37:06.512)
I...

Luciano (37:12.406)
I think that what happened was there was nobody involved in writing that or getting, making like, nobody that was involved with making this a reality from the script to the, to the acting and the directing, and nobody knows how a company actually works. They're used to like moviemaking and studio and that kind of, that kind of level of money.

Chris (37:29.25)
Hehehe

Matt (37:35.068)
Okay, you're used to making movies. Movies don't, like, $100,000 making a movie is not amount of money that makes sense to anybody. That's chump change. You fucking learned that on a day of filming.

Luciano (37:43.774)
It's a day, 100%. Less, depending on who you're filming with, yeah. I don't know where that number could have come from other than a blunder at writing the script.

Matt (37:57.096)
What if the economy in this world is fucked? Because it's obviously a different world from our own. So the economy, inflation doesn't exist and the economy hasn't grown since 19, like just after the depression. So yeah, so like bread's still a nickel, milk, milk's still, you know, a hey penny.

Luciano (38:04.131)
Ha ha ha!

Luciano (38:16.471)
29.

Luciano (38:22.427)
Oh, I see. I see. So so like Gemma makes like $10,000 a year.

Matt (38:25.844)
And so.

Matt (38:30.184)
at maybe a 150 bucks. I don't know, like $10,000 maybe. I don't know. And so in this world where Gemma's salary is like $200 bucks a year, $100,000 is a lot of money, $10,000 is probably too much to ask for the robot.

Luciano (38:33.902)
150? Are you?

Chris (38:39.35)
Right? I'm seeing it, I'm seeing.

Luciano (38:45.814)
Then yeah, no, just divide everything by like a thousand and then maybe you have the economy of this movie. That would make sense.

Matt (38:54.944)
Yeah. Okay, so yeah, Gemma makes about 500 bucks a year, we'll see. I don't know. I don't know how anybody's gonna buy this robot at $10,000, but that's, that at least makes more sense.

Chris (38:57.986)
Hmm.

Luciano (39:00.022)
Yeah.

Luciano (39:06.11)
Yeah, I don't know. And any of what we said makes more sense than whatever the fuck happened in the movie, so.

Chris (39:12.394)
Hmm.

Matt (39:13.092)
Can we talk about the time aspect then? We nailed the money thing. So Megan's face explodes.

Chris (39:16.002)
Time.

Luciano (39:18.423)
The time it took.

Yes. Yeah.

Chris (39:22.035)
the first like v1 right in the movie

Matt (39:24.108)
V1's Megan's face explodes and we were taught when they had the little session with Bruce that her brain sits inside the face. So how did she rebuild the nervous center of Megan in a week?

Luciano (39:30.879)
Yeah.

Chris (39:37.586)
Is that what broke? I can't remember. Did the brain? Because the mouse started to malfunction and then it caught fire, I thought.

Luciano (39:40.354)
They don't show, it just explodes.

Luciano (39:45.982)
I had never seen a robot have a stroke before. That was the first.

Chris (39:48.91)
Oh my god. Yeah, yeah.

Matt (39:50.88)
Yeah. Okay, maybe it didn't explode, but then nothing had to be done. Like, I don't... If you're saying to me that the rubber face just melted, then what had to be fixed? It seemed like there's like superfluous damage. So why was it like a big heroic montage to like fucking put Megan together in a week if nothing was wrong with her?

Chris (40:03.062)
Good question.

Luciano (40:09.814)
Well, I think what they fixed was more the programming than the hardware. I think that was the idea. Remember, because in one of the many, many techno bubbles that made me cringe and wanna die and crumble inside myself and disappear, when she said, this is a race condition, I can fix it in a minute. I'm like, fucking, do you even know what a race condition is? I'm not gonna get into it, but whatever. But it's like, I think that, I think that, don't do it.

Chris (40:10.291)
Good question.

Chris (40:34.407)
I know what a race condition is.

Luciano (40:38.326)
But I think the idea was like, oh, I'm going to rebuild, fix the code or whatever. They even show in the little montage, huh? The montage, they show uploading language model or learning model or whatever the fuck that was. I think they just had like, Gemma had some sort of an epiphany watching Katie and Bruce together. And then she just fixed the code or whatever the fuck it was.

Chris (40:38.334)
I know.

Matt (41:07.946)
Okay.

Luciano (41:08.918)
But this is grasping hard at straws here. Like, it doesn't make any sense. Even that would have taken like a few months.

Like coding AI, especially recoding a language model and a learning model is hard work. And it takes time because you have to train the model.

Chris (41:27.626)
Solo, it seems.

Matt (41:31.552)
Well, yeah, there was no training, right? She was just good.

Luciano (41:33.522)
No, she was just trained. Well, they did say that the fucking psychopath, the Gemma is installed. You know, like the other pets were learning from the conversations among the kids, which is fucking like a hundred percent scummy corporate thing that someone would do, but, but like, if she changed, and I don't want to get too technical here, but if she changed the AI, like the code, like the machine learning code, she would have to retrain that.

Chris (41:51.458)
exactly what, yeah.

Luciano (42:03.27)
neural network on the on the data chat like it would take a long time to train it's not something you do like in five minutes

Matt (42:10.808)
Chris, we're gonna go into this and get, prepare yourself. Grate your loins. The Jackathon is going real deep.

Luciano (42:15.126)
G-Guard your loins.

Chris (42:20.595)
Oh lord

Matt (42:22.084)
Because this is a plot hole that has to be addressed. And I understand that people are probably not worried about it, but we are because we're all nerds. AI does not work like this. They use AI like Harry Potter uses magic. And it's fine if you wanted to use the logic of we gave her a bunch of things and we taught her how to interact with kids and to protect Katie.

Luciano (42:33.163)
Yes.

Luciano (42:36.902)
Magic. Yeah, 100%.

Chris (42:38.71)
Hmm.

Chris (42:50.178)
Yu-jitsu.

Matt (42:51.632)
And maybe some jujitsu, that's fine. Like, you know, in the Matrix you get to just, you know, download it into your brain. Cool. But, but the thing is, is like, to Lucy on this point, it takes months and tons of data to do all this stuff. And they basically just sit her in front of Katie and she learns how like empathy and how to talk about dead parents, which they kind of show that I guess, but like. Then she learns how to take over cars and learn how to be a sociopath.

Like, how did she learn that in the space of a week?

Luciano (43:24.402)
And how did she learn to hack her own code to the point where she could corrupt the log files? And this is the worst part of it. So she was able to prevent videos from uploading. She was prevented like the log from doing whatever it needed to do, but it still showed that she was in the log, that she was stopping the log. Like if she knew how to do the much harder thing, why would she just let them find out? What the fuck was that? Like...

Chris (43:33.759)
Right.

Matt (43:37.314)
Yes.

Chris (43:39.124)
The GPS location numbers.

Chris (43:52.963)
Yeah, just delete it altogether. There is no file.

Luciano (43:54.495)
Yeah, exactly.

Matt (43:56.756)
It's, if I try to trace these things to the movie showing us, right? So the movie does a good job because they show us early on, they talk about Bruce, and they show us that Bruce has that nervous system. That's how you kill the robot, right? So when, I think technically Gemma did it, right? Where she, or, did Gemma stab Megan in the face or did Katie stab Megan in the face at the end?

Chris (44:15.778)
I think it was Katie did it with her, like, her fencer, her Musashi fence. What is it? A repartee? Ha! And then she did it with a screwdriver.

Luciano (44:16.864)
Yeah.

Matt (44:18.921)
Yeah, that's right.

Luciano (44:22.743)
Hahaha!

Matt (44:25.3)
Yeah, you're right. So, and that quote unquote stops Megan, right? Cause she's crawling her half body and that does that, right? So that's fine. But they don't show us, they just trade on AI being a solve all in a way that just, it starts to get weird. It's not like, oh yeah, it's scary. It's like, now you're just making up stuff to finish the movie. It doesn't, it seems, it's too convenient to just let AI solve all your problems. It makes it less believable.

Luciano (44:44.065)
Yeah.

Luciano (44:50.354)
It's like, oh, how did she hack the car? AI. How did she explode the thing in the lab? AI. How did she learn how to be a fucking murderous bastard? AI. You can't just be a wizard did it, but with technology. That's just dumb.

Matt (44:55.141)
Yep.

Matt (45:04.96)
Like you could have just had her run like run at high speed home. I would be like, yeah, that's fine. She's a robot. Of course she can do that stuff. But the hacker car is like, why? Sure.

Chris (45:09.814)
Hmm.

Luciano (45:09.926)
Yeah, yeah. She won't tire. She was yeah, exactly. There. Yeah, there's a lot of ways that they could have done what they did. Right? Without without anybody who knows a little bit about it is probably going to be I know I was very thrown off by it by the whole thing. Right? There was a number of ways of saying, you know, oh, they had this AI and then when Gemma saw

Katie interacting with Bruce she decided to build a doll that would have made much more sense than they had a failed doll And now they're gonna do some spooky sci-fi magic and make it work. Like what the fuck was that? Right. Yeah, it's so stupid and annoying

Chris (45:50.166)
This movie was Gemma's rise to deadbeat momhood. She's like, I got a project and I don't wanna stop it. Oh wait, I got a kid. How do I get this kid off my ass as fast as possible? Oh wait, let me lump some of the old shit that I worked on and make some new shit so I can get back to my own shit. I wanna get back to my own shit. Ding!

Luciano (45:57.381)
Hahaha

Luciano (46:13.498)
Literally, that's literally what you did. Yeah, yeah.

Chris (46:18.422)
Deadbeat Mom achievement unlocked.

Luciano (46:20.958)
It's like this movie is like a bad Black Mirror episode that's too long. Like, you know, because Black Mirror at least takes some care to explain how, like it's, and it's in a little bit in the future. So like, you can excuse a little bit of the exaggeration of what they do. Right. And this movie is like, no, this could happen today. No, it couldn't because logic still applies today.

Chris (46:49.454)
How does a robotics quote unquote deadbeat mom genius in Gemma, how does a person like that fail to repair their fence and yet they are deemed worthy? Doesn't look that way to me.

Luciano (47:04.394)
Well, they never even, she never even tried, right?

Matt (47:08.676)
Well, Chris, she only cares about one thing, her robots.

Luciano (47:12.492)
Yeah.

Chris (47:12.773)
Um...

Matt (47:14.244)
doesn't care about human interaction. I don't know how she actually talks to her assistants because she talks to them like humans, which is weird.

Chris (47:16.386)
She seemed... She seemed to care about the environment when the neighbor was like using those pesticides. She's like, make sure those don't get on my lawn.

Luciano (47:20.748)
Yeah.

Luciano (47:28.372)
I don't think it's environment. It thinks you just doesn't want to her petunia is dead

Chris (47:30.89)
Property? Does Gemma had flowers?

Luciano (47:34.927)
No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.

Matt (47:35.876)
Well, maybe. I will say this. This is a question I have for you both.

Black Mirror episodes generally pick one thing and they kind of focus on that, right? Like famously, San Gino Perro was like sort of the idea of death and how, what death is like for people and your consciousness being up-loaded. It was very focused on the story it was telling. How would you streamline Megan to actually make it a Black Mirror episode? Because to your point...

Luciano (47:48.351)
Right, right.

Matt (48:08.74)
There are so many other like, killer AI robot is the big thing, but there's so much other bullshit going on around it that distracts you from the killer AI robot thing. It's like, what would you, would you cut out stuff? Would you make Megan more killer robot AI? Like how would you clean this up?

Luciano (48:26.714)
I think I would make it less, cause like to me, what, what really throws it off in the way that you're saying, Matt is they try to make it about both the killer AI thing where, oh, the computer just goes to like the extreme to do, you know, it's programming quote unquote, but also to do the, oh, look what happens when you let your child get too attached to some machine or whatever, I would cut one of those out, probably the last one.

And like, I would make it more like they built like Gemma being the psychopath that she is, she's like, I can't deal with this child. I'm going to build her this doll and she's going to love the doll. But the.

Chris (49:06.912)
NANI

Matt (49:08.036)
British nanny.

Chris (49:10.374)
Oh no no! Hello! Spoonful of sugar!

Luciano (49:12.93)
But what it was for Robin Williams And and shoot I would just like shoot she would build it and the road like the girl would end up loving the doll But the doll wouldn't Love her back Because it's a doll and she would go fucking full Skynet on people like I was fine with like the initial idea of okay, so

Chris (49:17.27)
Yeah.

Is this kids like Mrs. Doubtfire?

Chris (49:28.542)
Love her. You're not my type.

Luciano (49:41.75)
Gemma says it's your job to protect her from mental and physical harm. And the robot goes ham on it, but like, stick with it. Don't make her turn into the psychopath killer just because she like apparently had developed a taste for blood, right? Just cut that part out and keep it being like, she's like, she's an AI, she's not caring. She's just doing her, following her programming, right? So killing, yeah, that's why she kills the dog. That's why she, yeah.

Chris (50:04.466)
And based on the programming, that's it. Like she plays it so straight that it veers into murderous, like a murderous path. And she's cold.

Luciano (50:12.554)
Yeah, she doesn't understand that it's like wrong to murder others to protect Katie. Right? But she doesn't go on a rampage and look at a boy whose years she just torn off and go, this is the part where you run and fucking turn into a jackalope to run after him. Like.

Chris (50:20.342)
So then bye.

Chris (50:29.634)
Yeah... Heh heh...

Matt (50:29.796)
I mean jackalopes are scary so maybe she had to. Bunny with horns? Fuck no. No thank you bunny horns.

Luciano (50:33.494)
Hahaha

Chris (50:35.958)
What is it? What sound? Do jackalopes make a sound? What sound does a jackalope make? But anyways, I've never, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's a question that's on my mind, but.

Luciano (50:36.15)
That's what I would do. Ha ha ha.

Matt (50:42.468)
The sound Jackalup makes? Yeah.

Luciano (50:45.916)
Why does it matter?

Matt (50:49.54)
Jekyllopes use telepathy and so they like make this gross screaming sound that's only in your head. That's the worst part.

Chris (50:54.646)
Oh, I appreciate that answer. I've never, I've only seen one episode of Black Mirror and it terrified me and I never watched any more. The one with the, yes. I, ugh.

Luciano (50:55.807)
That would have been good.

Matt (50:57.54)
Right. Yeah.

Luciano (51:03.279)
Was it the first one? With the pig? No, continue watching, it gets, it's less gross and more like techie. The first episode was made on purpose to kind of shock people.

Chris (51:12.574)
Nothing.

Well, it hurt me. So, yeah, you know. I'm also wondering about, okay, well, what did you have in mind, Matt? Like, because like you're the host that I don't wanna do, I don't wanna pull a Spencer.

Luciano (51:19.443)
He did its job.

Matt (51:20.74)
And how.

Luciano (51:34.59)
Nobody wants to, nobody should go fool Spencer. Yeah.

Matt (51:35.076)
Okay, no one wants to, but then you just, then all of a sudden you're Spencering. You have no idea what's happening. Well, I don't know if you're answering my question or you're just deciding to ask your own question.

Chris (51:38.07)
Do you want me to do it?

Luciano (51:45.13)
He's asking your question to you. He's reflecting the question.

Chris (51:45.627)
No. I'm F.

Matt (51:48.324)
Oh, okay. Yeah, I think I would just, this is supposed to be a thriller or a horror movie, so I think, you know, a little bit of what Luciano said, but I think I would just, it's just like you ratcheted up 10,000 degrees, right? So like her zone of like what is acceptable behavior around Katie just gets like perverted as quickly as possible. Because I don't know why Kurt or David die. Like, I don't know why they die in this movie, because like, the boy, okay, the boy was picking on her.

Chris (51:54.242)
Oh.

Luciano (52:07.775)
Mm.

Chris (52:09.91)
Thank you. OK. I thought you were going to go in a different direction.

Luciano (52:16.62)
Yeah.

Matt (52:16.644)
picking on Katie I get it neighbor yeah gonna mess up their family dynamic dog better cool but like okay then like there should be more people in her life that she's killing in Katie's life that she's killing to keep Katie so yeah I would have thought I thought for sure the therapist was gonna get axed

Chris (52:16.769)
Yes.

Chris (52:29.631)
therapist?

Luciano (52:31.154)
Yeah, I so did I. I thought I thought she was gonna show up in like a trash can somewhere.

Chris (52:37.634)
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Matt (52:37.924)
Yeah, and that's the thing, right? I think that, like, I don't mind if you're gonna do the absurdity of her being like, this is the part where you run, you're ripped off as a ear, and he gets run over by a car. That was kind of funny, right? The different ways she got the kids killed. But ratchet up the absurdity, right? So yeah, like, fucking put the therapist in a trash can or whatever would be a funny way for a therapist to die. And maybe it's all psychological, maybe she's doing something where it's all like, you can't prove I killed them, right?

Like having the boy run in front of a truck, having her get on a plane that mysteriously crashes, like maybe it's all weird stuff like that, but have fun with the test. Like make them like, you know, like file destination trippy, like, you know, as much as anything else.

Luciano (53:07.348)
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Luciano (53:22.51)
I was going to say final destination. And like, yeah, that's a good idea. Like show her maybe, you know, trying to find out what's the best way to. Like looking on the internet, what's the best way to defend Katie and then find like finding all of this shit and like knowing that, oh, murder is wrong. But if nobody knows you did it. And then she comes. Yeah. Something like that. And I haven't, that would have been fun. Like.

Chris (53:35.926)
Cues, acti- oh.

Chris (53:43.734)
If a tree falls in the woods and no one's there to hear it.

Luciano (53:50.17)
her just finding really clever ways of, you know, making other people take the fall for her crimes or make it seem like an accident that yeah and like and then jack fuck it don't try to explain it with AI just say this is an AI gone rogue fuck it this is it right

Chris (53:58.13)
in defense of her Prime Director.

Matt (54:04.74)
Yep. And then her creepiness is implied by the way she makes it look like she didn't murder anybody, even though she's increasing her kill count tenfold, twentyfold, thirtyfold. Not her like talking and like trying to like work through the talk manipulation of Gemma and like all that nonsense.

Chris (54:06.274)
That's good of an interesting. Yes.

Chris (54:14.253)
Yes.

Chris (54:19.274)
Bullshit.

Chris (54:24.522)
They could have easily, you could have done that. And I feel like this is a pattern that's been done with creepy dolls across all of horror thrillers. Like something bad happens and then the next shot is of the doll in question that no one's suspecting but the doll is there, lying there. And then like you get that slow pan. But since we know the robot is active, the eyes.

Luciano (54:44.759)
You do like a montage of her like just being in like more gruesome scenes like every day. It's like the last one is her like at the scene of an atomic bomb or something. It's just like hmm.

Matt (54:55.78)
Sure. I was thinking that maybe we just have like blood spatter across her face, but yeah, talk bomb works too.

Chris (55:04.95)
Yeah... And then... Yeah, they could have... The slow burn reveal.

Luciano (55:05.311)
I like that. Yeah, I think I think what this goes back to the first conversation we had. I think this movie needed to pick a lane and stay on it. And it didn't. And that hurt the whole thing. It's not it's not good sci fi. It's not good horror. It's not good thriller. It's not mystery. What the fuck? What mystery? What's the mystery? Yes. Nice segue.

Chris (55:24.45)
Hehehe

Matt (55:25.828)
I got a mystery for you.

Chris (55:27.466)
Oh no, oh yes, but yes.

Matt (55:29.988)
You're welcome. In the end of the movie, for whatever reason, we see Kirk downloading corporate secrets.

Chris (55:36.747)
Megan's Secret.

Luciano (55:38.642)
Yeah, from a folder that was locked, but he had access to anyway.

Matt (55:38.66)
Specifically, yes. Why? What?

Yeah

Chris (55:44.413)
He's in charge of, the man who's in charge of getting lunch has access to this, to company secrets. Nope.

Matt (55:50.596)
Yep. Didn't even have to type a password in either. Just...

Luciano (55:53.206)
the most valuable secret in the company, according to the chairman guy.

Matt (55:56.548)
Right. Yep. And the guy that gets damages has immediate unlimited access. Cool.

Luciano (56:02.246)
Yes, that does that makes a whole lot of sense. Yeah.

Chris (56:03.312)
Yeah, Jared had access to the company's secrets.

Matt (56:06.084)
Yeah, what is Kurt doing with the corporate espionage? Why is Kurt, why espionage, how espionage, when espionage, what espionage? What was he doing? What is that whole thing there for? You can't sell me on the idea was just to give Megan away to justifiably kill him, because that doesn't make sense. That is like forcing a joke, right? What was he actually doing that for?

Chris (56:11.766)
How is Kurt? Why is Kurt? What is Kurt?

Luciano (56:13.66)
Yeah.

When espionage? Why espionage? What was he doing?

Chris (56:30.426)
Yeah, that's a reach.

Luciano (56:35.758)
Hmm.

Chris (56:36.21)
I thought he was going to, at the first sight of that scene, I thought he was getting, like, he was playing stupid and silly so that no one would suspect him as being the mole.

Luciano (56:46.014)
No, no, see that would make too much sense Chris and you can't have that in this movie. Yeah, yeah, no, I thought so too.

Chris (56:51.21)
That was my first impression. But they fumbled that bag magnificently. Hehehe. Correct.

Luciano (56:59.05)
Well, it went nowhere, right? Like Matt said, it can't just have been, so, oh, now there's a reason for Kurt to have killed David because David found, what? Like, why? Yeah.

Chris (57:12.802)
That was Megan's reasoning and like from the lens of Megan, okay, sure, but as in terms of like, it doesn't make sense until, yeah, it doesn't make sense. It didn't make sense until Megan made it, quote unquote, make sense. It's too much thinking, go on.

Luciano (57:18.695)
Like it has to have its own reason.

Luciano (57:24.606)
I have to think, I have to think that because it's because it's Kurt and because this is us, I have to think it has to do with something, something building a sex robot. It has to be.

Chris (57:38.078)
Uh, are you on porno again, Kurt?

Luciano (57:40.438)
Hahaha!

Matt (57:41.252)
Wow, why don't you just call Kurt Jarrett and be done with it.

Luciano (57:44.138)
Why not? It's fine. The only two reasons I could think of is, one, he was going to sell that. But he doesn't seem like he has the wherewithal to think of that.

Chris (57:44.21)
Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine with that too.

Chris (57:54.114)
Yeah. Get to them.

Chris (57:59.222)
Like why hadn't he sell, he sort of should have sold it by the point, like before the end of the movie.

Luciano (58:02.942)
Well, he should have. Yeah, but the point, yeah. He should have downloaded that thing and disappeared from the movie. And then we should have seen him in the Stinger selling those secrets to another company. And that would be the... Yeah. And then after the credits, we see him selling it not Hasbro, Hadsys there. It's another company.

Chris (58:10.306)
Hmm.

Matt (58:15.78)
Hasbro.

Chris (58:16.906)
Has anybody seen Kurt? Where the fuck is Kurt?

Matt (58:32.164)
No. No thank you.

Luciano (58:33.086)
Okay, I tried. But not like, because like, let's not get into the reasons why the LC, the assistant like the Alexa dubbing, lighting up at the end makes no fucking sense as a sequel hook.

Chris (58:33.547)
Yeah.

Chris (58:46.452)
Yes.

Chris (58:51.466)
But they...

Matt (58:51.492)
It's the AI went to the cloud bro, don't worry about it.

Luciano (58:54.106)
no don't get me started on this shit buzzwords like the podcast equivalent of jazz hands? buzzwords!

Matt (58:56.644)
I said buzzwords, what else do you want from me?

Chris (59:00.876)
I said words.

Bro, I said the words, so like, it's like, it's like, it's Wingardium, it's Wingardium Leviosa, not Leviosa.

Matt (59:04.292)
Yeah. I said AI, cloud, magic.

Luciano (59:09.002)
There, explained! Hehehehe

Matt (59:15.044)
Yeah, it's the cloud, not the cloud.

Luciano (59:15.778)
Yeah.

But Jesus Christ. Yeah, so like that would have been good. But if he wasn't downloading it to sell those secrets to the highest bidder, he had to be downloading it for port. That's really, I don't see another reason that he could have done. Yeah.

Chris (59:18.582)
See? Like, what don't you get?

Chris (59:33.686)
So sex doll, like someone said that, right? So.

Luciano (59:38.67)
Someone said that yeah out of the three of us who here could have said it?

Matt (59:41.252)
Hmm, I wonder who.

Chris (59:42.954)
Someone said that. Try and prove it. It was Spencer.

Luciano (59:46.494)
It was Spencer. It was Spencer for sure. Spencer, if it wasn't you say something. There you go.

Chris (59:53.978)
doo doo. So then Kurt was a mole from Pornhub? And like, he was trying to sell, he was, he's like, like look at the perfect pet. Like, furries were into that, I guess.

Luciano (59:59.906)
Pornhub, yeah.

Matt (01:00:07.108)
I really gotta step in here.

Luciano (01:00:10.694)
No, no, don't. No, it's just the AI model. It's not the doll. No, no, we don't want to go there.

Chris (01:00:16.342)
I don't know what he and his company are trying to do. I said, I don't know. I'm not. I just, I don't know what they're going.

Matt (01:00:20.164)
Thank you. No, thank you Luciano. So he's stealing the information about the Megan robot to pull out the generative AI portion to make the perfect sex doll.

Luciano (01:00:28.894)
Yes, and that's it. And that's it. There's no other link. God damn it! Yes, please move on.

Chris (01:00:32.831)
to me.

Matt (01:00:33.988)
Wink!

Matt (01:00:41.86)
Moving on, we have some other questions we have about this movie that did not specifically fit into the plot hole section. Um, this might be a plot hole, I don't know. Hey, is Gemma a war criminal?

Chris (01:00:44.402)
Oh, it happened, it happened, it happened.

Luciano (01:00:48.96)
Okay?

Chris (01:00:49.118)
it fit.

Chris (01:00:53.538)
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Matt (01:00:54.756)
Hear me out. She has clearly made weapons of war. Right? She only got one so far, but the one was very good at killing. And I'm sure more would be much better at killing if you trained them specifically to kill. Fantastic. And hey, four foot killing machines. Smaller, tight spaces that can crawl around in your attic. You know, dropped down on Osama Bin Laden. Underestimated, undersized. Their titanium, I mean that was a real

Chris (01:00:57.346)
explain.

Chris (01:01:09.89)
Thanks for watching!

Luciano (01:01:16.807)
Under underestimated.

Matt (01:01:22.34)
weird choice to make for a kid's robot to make him out of titanium alloy but what do I know? Maybe she watches too many Terminator.

Luciano (01:01:27.266)
That was the only choice that made sense. It's like kids break shit. So let's make an update team

Chris (01:01:31.47)
True.

Matt (01:01:31.492)
Yeah, but now, but see, this is the thing. I watched this video that talked about how everything that's being made these days is breakable, right, and really the gist of it is from some more news on YouTube if you wanna look at it. But the gist of it is like Instapod is bankrupt because the Instant Pot is too well constructed and we all have one and we don't need to go buy another one so they have nothing to sell to us. And why would you sell, yes, you're gonna sell a shittier version of the robot because then if the arm falls off a piece breaks now,

Chris (01:01:39.778)
Okay.

Luciano (01:01:51.239)
uh programmed obsolescence

Chris (01:01:52.282)
Oh man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt (01:02:00.196)
Oh, that's a thousand dollar arm, we can replace that for you no problem. Now you keep making money even though everybody's got a robot. So the titanium alloy is only because you want to be an unstoppable killing machine. That was a choice.

Luciano (01:02:05.923)
I see.

Luciano (01:02:12.342)
Yeah, and then the company being completely shit at being a company was like, yep, good idea.

Matt (01:02:18.724)
They kept trying to tell you this was a toy. And I'm like, no.

Luciano (01:02:23.695)
No, this is a computerized agent of evil. That's what that is.

Matt (01:02:28.228)
This is the world's first generative AI that works at like the increasing rate it does. And you're like, it's a toy.

Luciano (01:02:33.524)
Guantanamo. It's been sent to Guantanamo. That's basically what's happening here.

Matt (01:02:36.932)
Yeah. So that's my case on is Jemma war criminal? Yes. But.

Chris (01:02:39.138)
Are you tired?

Luciano (01:02:41.402)
So do we know her last name? Is it Oppenheimer?

Chris (01:02:46.018)
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Matt (01:02:46.148)
Hmm. Ooh. They do not say it's just Gemma is on IMDB.

Luciano (01:02:51.974)
Okay. Gemma O. Yeah, I don't know. I think, I don't know if she qualifies as a war criminal yet, but I think she might. Because, I mean, first of all, you have to get caught, right?

Chris (01:02:56.77)
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Matt (01:03:04.58)
close. Chris?

Chris (01:03:10.21)
Ooh, she's, she's met.

Matt (01:03:11.46)
She clearly got caught. It was in her house murdering her. Wow. That day had just come to arrest her. The movie ends on her being arrested. Because like, say what you want about the other people and then them not having proof. Actually, I gotta shout out world's smartest cops. They're like, oh yeah, we thought it was an accident. Then we found his ear ripped off and now we think it's a homicide. Thank you, cops, for doing your job properly. Great work. But.

Luciano (01:03:14.262)
Well, she didn't go to jail at the end for some reason.

Luciano (01:03:21.282)
Oh, I see.

Luciano (01:03:35.287)
Hahaha, yeah, yes!

Matt (01:03:39.748)
So they clearly arrived because now they have Megan in her house. She created Megan. Megan clearly murdered David and Kent. Could they have that on Kurt? Sorry, whatever. Was it Kent? You guys didn't move me long enough for me to care. So I think she's like on her way to court. There's no way she's not war criminal. I'm going to look up the definition while Chris gives us his answer.

Luciano (01:03:46.894)
Kurt. Kurt! Ha ha ha. Chet.

Chris (01:03:50.151)
Don't put some respect on Kurt's fucking...

Luciano (01:03:54.414)
Fair.

Chris (01:03:55.126)
He was getting sandwiches.

Luciano (01:04:05.386)
And the definition of work criminal, the thing you're saying she is nice. Good job.

Chris (01:04:14.823)
I think Gemma is an unsuspecting...

Chris (01:04:25.366)
Idiot.

Luciano (01:04:26.603)
Oh, I don't think she's unsuspecting. I think she's just an idiot.

Matt (01:04:28.004)
No. She has to know what she's doing. She's smart enough to-

Luciano (01:04:32.046)
No, no.

Chris (01:04:32.098)
She doesn't, she's not smart enough. She ignored all the signs.

Matt (01:04:36.036)
I'm sorry, are you trying to dunning Kruger me right now with Gemma? Is that what you're trying to tell me? Wow.

Luciano (01:04:39.646)
Yeah, yeah, because no, think about it. She built this AI with no fail saves, with no master off switches, with nothing like that.

Matt (01:04:43.14)
Wow.

Chris (01:04:43.33)
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Matt (01:04:48.836)
Yep.

Chris (01:04:52.203)
Mm-hmm. Well, only, she had to use a physical, a physical. Wait, remember when we watched, they killed Tyrone, or cloned Tyrone and there was the Furball command? They didn't have that. She had to use a touch. Yes.

Luciano (01:04:54.748)
Yeah!

Luciano (01:04:59.327)
Yeah, they were smarter.

Matt (01:05:00.228)
Chris, Chris, they had, she had a remote control to turn her volume down. A generative AI construct. And she has a remote control to turn the volume down. Power button probably on there too.

Luciano (01:05:06.892)
And she turned it back on her own.

Luciano (01:05:12.426)
Yeah, why didn't you have a remote control that turned her off?

Matt (01:05:16.196)
I don't know. I don't know. Also, she's not a war criminal because to be a war criminal you have to carry out an act during the conduct of war that violates accepted international rules of war. So not yet a war criminal.

Luciano (01:05:24.474)
Oh, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure Megan, no, no. I think Megan breaks the Geneva Convention easily.

Chris (01:05:26.39)
What about corporate warfare? Hostile takeover.

Matt (01:05:32.708)
Okay, great. But is there an act of war going on?

Luciano (01:05:36.286)
Yeah, against our...brains. Having to watch this shit. Am I? But am I?

Chris (01:05:38.742)
Wallets.

Matt (01:05:39.076)
Oh my god. You're better than this. You should be.

Chris (01:05:43.53)
They were they were they were dead. They were locked in a heated battle with Hasbro.

Luciano (01:05:47.23)
No, I don't think she's a war criminal. I just think she's a criminal. Just a regular, like a run-of-the-mill criminal, not a war criminal. Like, it's...

Chris (01:05:54.89)
Which criminal, okay, tether her to a criminal of your, fictitious or real. I'm gonna go first. I think she's at least on, she's at least on.

Matt (01:06:02.564)
Okay.

Luciano (01:06:03.598)
Okay. Aha.

Matt (01:06:04.996)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (01:06:15.694)
I would say Dr. Claw level. Dr. Claw. Yeah. Well, he's the mastermind. That's right. Cause this thing is a farce. That's right. And so was the, that's right.

Luciano (01:06:20.974)
Is that a real clemeno?

Matt (01:06:22.948)
Yeah, well no, he's a fake criminal. Dr. Klaw's not real. He's a fucking inspector gadget.

Luciano (01:06:24.54)
Oh, is it? OK.

Chris, that's a cartoon. No, okay, real otherwise. Cause I was gonna say, I think she's on the level of like the Unibomber, or Jeffrey Dahmer, yeah, yeah. Unibomber.

Matt (01:06:33.22)
He said real or otherwise.

Chris (01:06:39.394)
Jeffrey Dahmer. Sorry, who? I'm kidding, what did you say? Junibomber, woo!

Matt (01:06:46.756)
No, that's way too much credit because the Unibot was actually very smart. He was just crazy. And she's not smart.

Luciano (01:06:50.41)
No, but I'm not talking about smart, I'm just talking about levels of crime.

Matt (01:06:54.308)
Oh, levels of crime. Oh.

Chris (01:06:55.703)
Hmm.

Luciano (01:06:57.002)
Like she is responsible for a few murders, however many million dollars or maybe thousands of dollars in this world of damage, of embezzlement, property damage, all that. Like she built that robot, that robot is not liable to any, but like there's no, the...

Chris (01:07:02.962)
Embezzlement, is that the word?

Chris (01:07:13.77)
The company is, she did it on company, what is it? Premises, so they're, yeah, she's responsible, but then the company is unfortunately not responsible too.

Luciano (01:07:17.546)
Yeah, but so is she. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So she's like, that's a very least gross negligence of some sort. And manslaughter and probably child abuse. Because like she set a non-functioning prototype to fucking raise her knees. She's like, I can't be bothered with you. Here, go play with the defective doll. I'm gonna go do my shit.

Chris (01:07:29.642)
manslaughter.

Chris (01:07:33.726)
Yeah. Endangering a child.

It's your...

Chris (01:07:46.406)
And she let, and she let, what is it? What was the name of the child? Katie. And she let Katie and some camp counselor corner her into letting the, letting, wow, I'm forgetting the name. No, getting the name of the, Megan, letting, that's how fucking good this movie was. Like, I want to forget this. I watched it. Don't talk to me. You put some respect on my, I watched the movie before all of y'all. For the listeners that didn't know, I was the only one who watched it on time because we were going to record last week. I'm airing out this dirty laundry, behind the scenes.

Luciano (01:07:57.41)
Brandon?

Matt (01:07:59.396)
Megal?

Luciano (01:08:01.207)
Oh.

Matt (01:08:02.404)
Did you even watch this movie, Spencer?

Luciano (01:08:03.963)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:08:11.44)
No. No, I watched it too. It was only Matt who forgot.

Matt (01:08:15.428)
I'm the only person who didn't watch it on time.

Chris (01:08:17.97)
And Spencer didn't watch it either, because he's not even here. Anyways, we'll see about that, sir. But like they, Gemma let these two people corner her into allowing the robot to go onto the premises with a dozen under other children where anything can and did happen.

Matt (01:08:20.26)
But I'm the host, so I can do what I want. And I made you record later. It happened.

Luciano (01:08:35.098)
Oh yeah. Well, she, that's true. Like she had no, like no pulse, no backbone, nothing.

Matt (01:08:42.724)
Alright, fine. You know what Gemma? Not a war criminal yet. Moving on, next question. Not a war criminal, that's the only thing I wanted to know about. Not one yet. Did Katie deserve everything that happened to her?

Luciano (01:08:45.622)
but a regular criminal.

Luciano (01:08:50.366)
Okay, not one yet.

Luciano (01:08:54.326)
Oh, show your work.

Matt (01:08:56.74)
Uh, well, for starters, she was a real b-otch to her parents in the car.

Chris (01:09:03.486)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:09:04.189)
I knew, I knew the fucking parents I knew the both of you would have grew in this

Matt (01:09:08.804)
and she pulled the same nonsense in the car later on with Gemma. She, she had a... Yeah, no, but I'm saying in the car, she also like, attacked Gemma in the car. She wants to die in a car, I'm pretty sure that's her only wish. She actively is trying to make her parents die, and her guardians or parents to die in the car. And then she, well, I mean...

Chris (01:09:09.146)
You don't... Yes.

Luciano (01:09:11.662)
She... She like closed fist punched her.

Chris (01:09:17.804)
Yeah. It's the beginning of the movie, yeah.

Chris (01:09:24.281)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:09:24.787)
Oh my God.

Chris (01:09:26.934)
Yo.

Luciano (01:09:29.77)
Also, she's a war criminal. Wait, no, she's not.

Matt (01:09:32.612)
Gemma to be fair she did yeah full-on punch Gemma, but Gemma kind of deserved it something for a pass on that one

Chris (01:09:33.221)
Hahaha

Luciano (01:09:39.182)
Um, so you're saying that she brought it on herself because she's a little bitch. Uh, huh.

Matt (01:09:42.724)
Yes, maybe.

Chris (01:09:46.238)
I wanted to empathize with her, but when she...

Matt (01:09:46.659)
That's just a question I'm asking. Just a question.

Chris (01:09:51.169)
I think she deserved half of what she got. I think she deserved half. That's the question. Whatever is direct, yeah, I'm trying to figure it out. Whatever is in direct proportion to kicking the back of the seat, kicking the car seat, grabbing scissors on a therapist and getting ready to cut another bitch, slapping your guardian, that's three strikes.

Luciano (01:09:53.642)
What, which half? Which half? Yeah, that's the question I'm asking.

Matt (01:10:09.316)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Luciano (01:10:13.814)
That wasn't a slap, that was a full-on punch.

Chris (01:10:16.378)
I'm looking at the GIF right now and wait for it. What? It was open. Fortunately, unfortunately, call it as you will. It was open-handed, which I would say is a bit more disrespectful. That's a pimp slap. OK? He's like, where?

Matt (01:10:19.012)
Open hand or closed? Ah, okay.

Luciano (01:10:19.07)
It's... It's clo- Was it open? I thought it was closed hand.

Luciano (01:10:29.132)
Okay.

I don't think so.

No, pips lap would have to be across like from the convex side of the hand. Yeah.

Matt (01:10:38.596)
back, back of the hand.

Chris (01:10:40.49)
Well, that's, well, listen, pimp slap, whatever side of the hand makes the contact is the hand that needed to contact that face.

Luciano (01:10:42.23)
I met, okay, let me give me. Give me, give me two seconds. And I want you both to imagine a world in the, where in this movie, Katie backhand bitch slaps Gemma in the face. I will be so here for this.

Chris (01:11:03.51)
Where is Megan? Where's my toy at? Where is it? Give it to me! You said you had it!

Luciano (01:11:05.558)
Bitch! No, and like with a pinky, no, with a pinky ring from somewhere, she never wore it, but now she has one, and then she leaves the streak of the pinky ring on Gemma's face, I'd be so here for that.

Chris (01:11:12.886)
Yes.

Chris (01:11:20.034)
She was so angry. She even has the Michael Jackson mean half lip bite. She's like, mm, she, mm, she, eat your moan, where is my toy? Mm, psh, the, psh. It's the truth. The GIF is priceless. I said, I will pull, I will say 75% deserved. Do 75% deserved.

Luciano (01:11:26.862)
Mmm. Yee-hee. Ha ha ha.

Luciano (01:11:33.082)
Shalom!

Luciano (01:11:38.208)
Yeah, OK.

Matt (01:11:39.876)
So is that a yes, Chris? Is that what I'm hearing?

Matt (01:11:46.276)
So yes, yes is the answer.

Luciano (01:11:47.314)
But what, which parts did she not deserve? That's what I asked and you haven't answered.

Chris (01:11:53.464)
I don't think she deserved to have her relive and break down in that demo room for the leadership suite. That was wrong. She was exploited. And then inside the company headquarters, that gigantic billboard screen, that was weird.

Luciano (01:12:02.618)
Okay, I would agree. That was too much. She's still a kid. Yes, yes.

Luciano (01:12:12.358)
Oh, yeah, and the ad and then fucking David going, Oh, imagine how much fun is going to be to a non damaged kid. Yeah. No, no, it's like, Oh, look at what he did for this poor damaged girl. Imagine how much more fun is going to be for your kids, who is not completely traumatized by the father's their parents death. OK, I would agree with that. Seventy five percent. I think it's fair.

Chris (01:12:19.702)
She's not surviving, she's thriving.

Yeah.

Chris (01:12:32.098)
Yeah, she didn't deserve those

Matt (01:12:39.428)
Moving on, would you rather live in Florida or live next door to a murderous AI robot?

Chris (01:12:41.786)
Let's go.

Luciano (01:12:51.038)
Ooh. Oh, Florida. Oh, what? Is suicide an option?

Chris (01:12:52.874)
What's waiting for me in Florida?

Matt (01:12:55.204)
Florida.

Chris (01:12:58.347)
Racism, lack of gun control.

Matt (01:13:03.812)
I mean, I've in that case, just, you know, live near the robot and it'll happen eventually.

Luciano (01:13:08.878)
fair.

Chris (01:13:13.598)
I guess I could check in with the robot daily and be like, how are you doing? What can I do to live a better life? In your opinion, and then I'm abiding by its rules and its framework.

Luciano (01:13:13.615)
I think.

Luciano (01:13:18.258)
Yeah, because I think, because like, if, if you, we have established that if you use like American gladiator pole to poke her, and if you kind of stay out of her way, otherwise, she won't kill you. So like, yeah, and hang her from her weird sort of like clockwork orange prison.

Chris (01:13:33.57)
Okay.

Matt (01:13:38.052)
Nope. Even if you work on her every day.

Chris (01:13:44.834)
police system.

Hmm.

Luciano (01:13:48.306)
So I think I would prefer to leave to live like as no, as Megan's neighbor. Cause at least I know what I'm dealing with. I can't deal with Florida. I can't fix Florida, but I.

Matt (01:13:52.004)
In Florida? Ha ha ha.

Chris (01:13:58.506)
You can see the signs.

Matt (01:14:00.772)
Well, what if you don't know what you're dealing with? Innocent Narcos.

Luciano (01:14:04.736)
Oh shit.

Chris (01:14:06.083)
Oh, okay, so the dog has died and then, and then, and then a neighbor dies, not you. And you're like, cause like in the movie, like next to her house, that neighbor died. So you're across the street. And now you've seen this is playing.

Luciano (01:14:07.574)
But then definitely, then definitely I wouldn't go to Florida.

Luciano (01:14:21.294)
Oh, I'd be so happy. It was like, that bitch is dead. That's amazing. Just improve this neighborhood, yeah.

Chris (01:14:25.466)
That dog always took a shit on my lawn. Wow, this is really scary. Someone died across. But then like, think of the level of interaction. Like if we played by the rules of that neighborhood, Gemma had no other interaction with the rest of the neighbors so they could survive. I think I would choose that neighborhood.

Matt (01:14:25.476)
Wow, okay.

Luciano (01:14:38.322)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because Matt, the alternative is Florida. Yeah.

Matt (01:14:44.484)
Yeah, I'm aware. I didn't ask what was waiting for me in Florida. I know what's waiting for me in Florida. I would rather be the lady that lives beside Megan than live in Florida. Yeah.

Luciano (01:14:49.145)
Hahaha!

Chris (01:14:50.104)
Oh my god.

Luciano (01:14:55.626)
Yeah, just don't have an obnoxious dog and don't be a bitch.

Chris (01:14:56.359)
Really?

Chris (01:14:59.846)
I would even, so, hmm. Would you, so here's the follow-up question related.

Matt (01:14:59.908)
My dog's very cute, so I'll be fine.

Luciano (01:15:01.746)
Yeah, she's also called Bruce. That was some interaction to be had there.

Matt (01:15:07.172)
connection.

Chris (01:15:07.302)
No, that was Dewey, the dog was named as Dewey and the robot was Bruce.

Luciano (01:15:10.316)
See, he missed the joke. He missed the joke.

Matt (01:15:10.34)
No, no, you're missing it. I'm next door. I'm the old lady who's like, is not a friendly neighbor. But I have a nice dog named Bruce. My own dog, currently named Bruce, the real dog, is very cute and friendly.

Luciano (01:15:15.742)
Yes, you are. Ah, OK.

Chris (01:15:24.042)
Yes. Accepted.

Luciano (01:15:25.45)
Yep. So she wouldn't bite Katie. And yeah.

Chris (01:15:31.056)
So then if you live next to Gemma, would you fix the hole in the fence?

Matt (01:15:36.612)
Yeah, because the first rule of fence holes is like, why is it someone, like whose fence is it? I just, if I don't want, yeah, so I'll just fix it. And then I'll send it to the bill.

Chris (01:15:44.17)
It was a shared fence. So why was it like all on Gemma? Yeah.

Luciano (01:15:45.495)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:15:48.85)
Exactly, that's what I was gonna say. Megan wouldn't care. Megan wouldn't care about the bill. No. She would bitch slap Gemma to pay the bill.

Chris (01:15:51.838)
And then, and would she, what about the emotional? What about, think about the trickle, think about, think about, think about the emotional trickle down damage. Gemma's like stressing about the presentation. And then there's this bill that's unexpected. And she's like, what? I can't believe Matt did that. How could he, which, and then she slams the bill on the table and walks off in a huff.

Matt (01:15:54.276)
No.

Luciano (01:16:13.388)
No, no Megan would backhand bait bitch slapper and say pay the bill bitch

Matt (01:16:18.66)
Gemma and I would be fine. Okay, anyway.

Chris (01:16:20.552)
No, Katie would do it. She's like, I need new shoes. Pay this and pay buy me these sparkly light up shoes, bitch.

Luciano (01:16:24.49)
HAHAHAHA BITCH

Chris (01:16:31.766)
Backhand. Make sure you put, I want these ones from Amazon. Yes.

Luciano (01:16:35.122)
Oh, punctuated, punctuated by slaps? Yeah, nice.

Matt (01:16:38.5)
Yeah, perfect. Moving on.

So we learned that AI should not be in charge of raising your child. Chris, did you not learn that?

Chris (01:16:46.754)
Shit up.

Luciano (01:16:48.19)
No, it shouldn't. It shouldn't, Chris. Yeah. Yeah, you should've. Hahahaha!

Chris (01:16:52.487)
Did I?

Matt (01:16:53.828)
You know what, let me finish the question and you can answer. We learned that AI should probably not be in charge of raising children. What else should AI probably not be in charge of?

Chris (01:17:08.426)
making our sandwiches.

Matt (01:17:10.692)
Enjoy your work.

Chris (01:17:12.022)
think that when it comes to the

Chris (01:17:18.018)
100 year old art of crafting sandwiches that must be consumed. I think a human is the only one that can be trusted, charged. See what I did there? Charged with the responsibility of laying the greens, dairy and meats, making a sandwich. How is the robot supposed to know whether to put the liquid seasoning at the...

Luciano (01:17:34.876)
making a sandwich a sandwich

Chris (01:17:45.782)
Topmost part of the center core of don't you shake your head at me? Where do you put?

Matt (01:17:49.924)
Chris, this robot took over cars. It took over, you know, Alexa's in the home. No, but it could look it up on the internet like any other normal person would do. But what?

Chris (01:17:53.726)
Yes. You can't eat a car. You can't eat a car or a house.

But did it?

Luciano (01:18:03.146)
Then it would then it would learn shit like oh there's a hot sauce that is like 9 million Scoville. Maybe she will like it

Chris (01:18:09.61)
There you go, and then you've got a ghost pepper in your shit, and now you're shitting shit.

Luciano (01:18:14.623)
Oh, you're shooting blood then.

Matt (01:18:14.884)
I actually generally shit shit most days of my life I'm honest.

Luciano (01:18:19.249)
Hahaha!

Chris (01:18:20.25)
We don't know what kind of shit you'll shit when you've got that ghost pepper or that whatever one Scoville's that are, you know, roasting your innards.

Matt (01:18:28.228)
I don't think that's the highest Scoville thing, but we're not a Scoville's podcast. But why would Megan Scoville me to death? Because in the scenario here, I believe it's like Katie, right? She mostly wouldn't have killed Katie until Katie turned on her because she was supposed to protect Katie. So in the scenario where Megan is supposed to deliver a culinary feast to you, why would she Scoville you?

Chris (01:18:30.61)
I don't know, no we're not, so you can't fry us on that listener's question.

Chris (01:18:43.206)
Yes.

Chris (01:18:47.906)
true.

Chris (01:18:52.194)
Mm-hmm. Yes, yes.

Well, not me. Why would she like you bring up an interesting brand? So are you asking about Katie or you why would she school will you or Katie? Okay, great

Luciano (01:19:04.814)
It doesn't make any difference.

Matt (01:19:05.092)
Well, so the question, what should AI not be in charge of? If AI is looking out for you as a person.

Chris (01:19:09.758)
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Luciano (01:19:12.302)
Okay, I'll tell you why it shouldn't make your sandwich because apparently Megan, and this hypothetical AI of your question would be learning shit from the internet because you didn't teach it anything. So imagine that you asked this AI to prepare your food and its only source of how to make food is those shitty TikTok videos that make like raw pasta with like

Chris (01:19:32.382)
is 4chan or TikTok videos.

Luciano (01:19:39.138)
burnt ground beef and like marshmallows. That's what all you'd be eating is that shit from TikTok. You should definitely not be in charge of that.

Matt (01:19:48.644)
But why would my AI learn there?

Luciano (01:19:53.226)
because that's what AIs do apparently in Megan's case. They learn from the internet. What?

Chris (01:19:56.539)
It's probably like the loudest, the squeakiest gear gets the oil, right? So the loudest tier of social media or content would be the... It's right here. Oh, wow. So must...

Luciano (01:20:02.202)
Yeah, yeah. They'll be like, ooh, this is so, there's like 95 million views on this video where this person made wasabi sandwich. Yes. There we go. Yes. I think that's a valid thing to say.

Matt (01:20:09.38)
So, okay. So based on your logic, AI shouldn't be in charge of anything. This is gonna source everything from TikTok and that's gonna ruin society. All right, fair enough. I'm glad we got there.

Chris (01:20:23.783)
And it would kill Katie because the end game would be to protect Katie from herself. So therefore I must I'm taking that choice from her.

Luciano (01:20:32.65)
It would kill Katie because it would make Katie eat like a fucking, I don't know, glass sandwich and then she would die.

Chris (01:20:39.618)
Well, Katie wouldn't eat a glass sandwich. Oh, this tastes gamey. How old? So if like, so if, OK, like if we go down that route, right, and Gemma is rendered into like palliative care and Katie and Megan run off, right, if that came to fruition at what, how long would it take?

Matt (01:20:41.444)
TidePod.

Luciano (01:20:43.39)
Yeah, there you go. A Tide Pod sauce. It tastes so clean.

Matt (01:20:48.644)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Luciano (01:21:02.706)
Oh, Megan's original plan.

Chris (01:21:09.858)
for Megan to finally kill Katie. If Katie went with it, given the velocity of like her off the wheels.

Matt (01:21:12.644)
Oh, like a week. Because Megan, yeah, because Megan stopped trying, like, because at some point Megan made, or Gemma was made, like her secondary care person, right? And she rejected that as soon as it became inconvenient for her. And she became, at the movie, what was the line she used? It was like, I have a new primary, whatever, it's me.

Luciano (01:21:14.224)
Yeah, at most.

Chris (01:21:29.44)
Huh.

Luciano (01:21:33.349)
Yeah.

Chris (01:21:39.798)
primary user.

Luciano (01:21:40.47)
user yeah this yeah

Matt (01:21:42.084)
So she would just off, she would off Katie like a week into it, was like, Katie be like, I need a sandwich, I'm hungry. She's like, bitch, we ain't got no food around here.

Luciano (01:21:50.826)
Yeah, this movie, this movie. Yeah, this movie is. This is I robot. If there wasn't the three laws of robotics, that's what this movie is. If you don't bake it in the robots will kill you.

Chris (01:21:51.69)
back in. Do I look like I have money? I could wire it to you, but can't trust you.

Matt (01:22:07.524)
This is what would have happened if data lived in our time.

instead of the future.

Luciano (01:22:15.742)
Really? I don't know.

Matt (01:22:17.764)
Why, if you gave data emotions, he would have to murder everybody. That's what we learned from this movie.

Luciano (01:22:23.25)
Ah, the, the cautionary tale about the danger of emotions.

Matt (01:22:27.524)
Basically.

Chris (01:22:30.274)
One must live a stoic and sterile life.

Luciano (01:22:32.252)
Uh, and stayed life. Yeah.

Matt (01:22:34.308)
Right, I have one more question.

Luciano (01:22:37.27)
The SS life, if you will.

Chris (01:22:39.398)
Oh no! No!

Chris (01:22:46.666)
Yeah!

Luciano (01:22:49.262)
Anyway, you were saying that.

Chris (01:22:51.53)
This segment was brought to you by Mein Kampf.

Luciano (01:22:54.603)
Jesus Christ.

Matt (01:22:54.948)
Wow, I don't know how to segue, so I'm just not going to. My next question. Would Megan actually be convicted in a court of law?

Luciano (01:22:59.182)
Fair. Ha ha ha.

Chris (01:23:00.385)
Just let it hang.

Chris (01:23:08.822)
You can't convict what you can't see.

Luciano (01:23:11.874)
But you can't... what? Yeah.

Matt (01:23:11.972)
What does that mean?

Chris (01:23:13.607)
At the end of the movie, Megan has left her body.

Matt (01:23:16.644)
Right, but you can still convict Megan.

Luciano (01:23:17.49)
Oh, I see what you mean. All right. It's dead. She's dead. Yeah. A corpse.

Chris (01:23:19.51)
How do you convict Megan? It's like convicting. Yes, yes. I was gonna go in a different direction, but.

Luciano (01:23:28.674)
Oh no, go, please do, please do. It's a trap! Where is Zach Barton when you need him?

Matt (01:23:29.476)
Oh wow, don't do it. It's a trap.

Chris (01:23:33.918)
It's a trap! Yeah, you can't, like the body's done. So like, if she was still inhabiting that body, if she was trapped and couldn't get out, maybe, maybe. No, it's the truth! You can't!

Matt (01:23:43.812)
Yeah, yeah, answer my question instead of using a weird loophole of logic to avoid it, you coward.

Luciano (01:23:44.35)
Wha- okay-

Luciano (01:23:49.15)
Okay, I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna say no and here's why. Basically everybody she killed was a prick or a son of a bitch.

Matt (01:23:52.868)
Okay.

Matt (01:23:58.116)
I don't think that holds up in a court of law, but I'm willing to hear you out.

Luciano (01:24:00.05)
It does, it doesn't mind. I think that there should be a thing called justifiable murder. And like Brandon, fucking prick. She didn't even kill him. She just ripped his ear off, right? He ran into front of that car. Okay. Then, I mean, the only thing she killed, the only entity she killed that didn't really deserve it was the dog, because the dog is only as bad as the owner. Right?

Chris (01:24:01.684)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (01:24:07.146)
Judge Dredd.

Chris (01:24:16.67)
Nature took its course.

Matt (01:24:16.9)
That's fair, I'll give you that.

Chris (01:24:23.666)
Only.

Chris (01:24:29.086)
Uh...

Luciano (01:24:29.686)
But then, that woman was a menace to society. Clearly. With her fucking...

Chris (01:24:36.264)
Mm-hmm. I know it was you and your little fucking, and your little prostitute adopted daughter. I know it was you. You bitches and that third bitch who was up at 3 a.m. watching boring, povish, I knew it was you. Fuck all three of you.

Matt (01:24:36.74)
Maybe... Oh-

Matt (01:24:42.788)
I would.

Matt (01:24:51.748)
I would argue that Gemma antagonized her and made... They're both fault in that relationship.

Luciano (01:24:58.194)
Listen, if Megan had killed Gemma, I'd be saying the same thing. She's just as much as a prick as, as the woman. Um, and then she killed, she killed, she killed David fucking good riddance. Ronnie Chang. Yeah. Come on. The guy was willing to put, the guy was willing to put some, some kid who lost both her parents or was being raised by a fucking murderous doll in.

Matt (01:25:02.34)
Okay, fair enough. Great.

Chris (01:25:05.514)
You know, I second that, I third that.

Who is David? The CEO? Oh, yeah.

Matt (01:25:14.212)
Right, right, Cheng.

Matt (01:25:18.244)
Keep up.

Chris (01:25:19.638)
I've been up son. I stay up.

That was funny! But yeah.

Luciano (01:25:28.41)
The only funny thing that he ever did was say that he wanted to be known that they punched her husband in the dick. I actually genuinely laughed at that. That was a good joke. Then she killed Kurt who was clearly stealing her stuff to make hubby the porn hub doll.

Chris (01:25:38.397)
That one was a bit there, but yeah.

Chris (01:25:43.723)
Yeah.

Chris (01:25:47.41)
Agrabah rules bro Agrabah rules of the street

Luciano (01:25:48.906)
right yeah and then she tried to kill Gemma who fucking had it coming and Katie who by Chris's lights was a little bitch who deserved 75% of all the shit that happened how who would convict this poor robot she was doing god's work is what I'm saying I rest my case your honor

Matt (01:25:55.396)
right. Yeah.

Chris (01:26:01.058)
She got knocked up a bit. She got knocked around a bit.

Chris (01:26:09.75)
They would, she would probably get, well, outside of Florida, she'd probably get convicted. Inside of Florida.

Luciano (01:26:16.63)
should be elected to some sort of official position.

Matt (01:26:18.82)
I believe this was California.

Chris (01:26:20.158)
If the servo doesn't fit, you must acquit!

Luciano (01:26:23.485)
HAHA

Matt (01:26:24.964)
You know what? That's the same logic they use in the movie, so I will allow this.

Luciano (01:26:28.649)
Yeah. I hope that answers your question with all my legal expertise.

Matt (01:26:30.084)
All right, good. No, thank you. That's a perfect answer. You are all lawyers in my mind. This brings us to the last section of the podcast. Where we give our ranking on the S-tier ranking system and a little... No, no. There's been enough Nazi celebrations in Canada already.

Chris (01:26:35.97)
Genius. Here.

Luciano (01:26:38.446)
Ha ha ha!

Chris (01:26:47.071)
Not the SS2.

Luciano (01:26:50.135)
The S? No!

Chris (01:26:54.11)
He started it.

Luciano (01:26:55.867)
Oh no! You're dating this episode, Matt!

Chris (01:26:57.41)
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Matt (01:26:59.972)
But yeah, I have just one S tier. We go all the way down to F, no lower, that's it.

Chris (01:27:04.71)
One, who know?

Luciano (01:27:08.441)
No doubly any letters, please.

Matt (01:27:10.884)
Nothing, no double, single letters only. Give me a single letter score and a little synopsis of why you gave it that score. Chris.

Chris (01:27:12.778)
No, no, no WWs.

Chris (01:27:23.658)
movie was D for dumb as fuck. I can't. I had a very difficult time containing. Let him cook. I had a very difficult time as a parent waiting and like, I was like, I can't I don't do well with horror movies first off, right. So I was already scared going into it. And then I didn't watch it with my wife. And I had to take a break at one minute to go do parent stuff. And I was like, honey, there's a scene.

Luciano (01:27:26.594)
Hehehehehehe

I mean the man's not wrong.

Yeah.

Matt (01:27:44.644)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (01:27:53.034)
where the daughter disrespects her parents. And can you believe it in both our jobs? Like we were frozen. We were frozen. We were like, how does not compute? You do not let your child run wild on you. So anyways, it was like that coming up for air that was like, wow, I think this is literally what I'm going to be going through. Just disrespect on every level of this movie going spectrum. Listen, if you're a parent, don't watch this movie because you don't want any.

You don't want any nonsense, unusual, it is. You don't want your child to end up going to a relative that is so inept and careless and stupid, that you end up watching from the sidelines of the afterlife, your child getting parented by a sex robot. You don't want that. So don't watch this movie. It was dumb.

Luciano (01:28:23.49)
That's the real horror. Heheheheheheh.

Luciano (01:28:48.995)
Oh my god.

Chris (01:28:52.342)
You're stupid. It was stupid.

Luciano (01:28:53.548)
So, are you sticking with your Ds? Is that what you're saying?

Chris (01:28:57.295)
I'm working within the confines of our tier list. This movie was stupid. And that's it with a D.

Matt (01:29:02.916)
Chris, just so you know, there are two letters below D.

Chris (01:29:06.218)
That's why I subtract two more and bring it down to an F for stupid.

Luciano (01:29:10.678)
Get some make up here, fuck you, mine.

Chris (01:29:13.938)
I like keeping you on your toes. Your toes hurt, you should go get it. Make sure you get some Dr. Scholls. Doc Wax brought to you by Doc Wax. Dr. Scholls was made by the, Dr. Scholls was made by the Nazis.

Luciano (01:29:16.03)
No, they hurt. Don't keep me on my toes. Yeah.

Luciano (01:29:23.899)
No, no, DocWox, DocWox.

Matt (01:29:24.9)
Doc walks.

Luciano (01:29:28.686)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Matt (01:29:28.836)
We got you Spencer. Don't worry.

Luciano (01:29:38.096)
Oh my god.

Matt (01:29:39.588)
Wow, topical. Luciano, I don't know what you're gonna do after that, but good luck.

Chris (01:29:40.286)
It's true!

Luciano (01:29:44.914)
Yeah, I don't either. So yeah, like I went into this movie, admittedly with a bit too much expectation, I think, because I saw the ratings, which doesn't help. But I thought it was going to be more of a horror movie than attempting to be really serious sci-fi. And it did none of those well. I was infuriated by the end with all of the techno babble shit and all of the stupid stuff. I thought...

Chris (01:29:45.058)
Uh-uh.

Chris (01:29:56.15)
Oh yeah, I didn't.

Luciano (01:30:13.822)
Honestly, the only good thing about this movie was the CG they did for Megan was actually pretty good. At no point was that... The uncanny valley was done on purpose, but it wasn't super exaggerated to the point where it's like... It was actually pretty decent in that sense. But that's literally the redeeming factor of this movie for me. But we did watch Morbius before. So I have to temper this. So this is...

Chris (01:30:20.066)
Hmm.

Chris (01:30:40.511)
Ha!

Luciano (01:30:43.442)
A very solid E for me.

Luciano (01:30:48.522)
Like, honestly, don't watch it. Just don't watch it. It's not missing anything. It's fine.

Chris (01:30:49.13)
You're wrong.

Chris (01:30:53.765)
Hmm

Matt (01:30:54.212)
So that is E for air.

Luciano (01:30:56.182)
The E for a no. Yeah.

Chris (01:30:59.008)
Mm-hmm. Would you, if this was in the theater and you went to the theater to see it and you, because I used to work in a movie theater and the old loophole was that if you came out under 30 minutes, you could ask for a refund. Would you?

Luciano (01:31:15.426)
Probably not because 30 minutes in it wasn't like I was still giving it a chance. So.

Chris (01:31:20.362)
Some people argued well after the movie was done. Sometimes we had to give them the refund.

Luciano (01:31:27.277)
I would throw my popcorn on the screen, that's what I would do. In impotent rage.

Chris (01:31:32.795)
Impotent. Impotent rage.

Luciano (01:31:33.842)
Yeah. Yes. Because I spent my money watching this shit.

Chris (01:31:40.17)
You duck it.

Matt (01:31:40.484)
Anyways, I also watched this movie and I did, who knows, Spencer maybe.

Luciano (01:31:43.271)
Oh, did you? Who are you again?

Hahaha!

Chris (01:31:47.788)
Mmm!

Matt (01:31:49.86)
the movie.

Chris (01:31:51.315)
Speak on it.

Matt (01:31:54.372)
The thing with the movie is it's not obviously bad. It's just underlyingly very frustrating because the things it does just don't really connect well and it gets kind of convoluted and they try to do a paint by numbers horror but then mix it up, but then you're not getting any of the horror things you want. And so I was kind of just like, when did I just watch what happened? I guess Alison Williams was in the movie and.

Chris (01:32:01.704)
Shitty.

Matt (01:32:20.996)
The robot was creepy and then it ran like a horse at one time and danced and that was probably cool for the TikTok videos. And, and you know, like Ronnie Chang, oh, too bad he died for some no reason. I guess that makes sense. And it was all just a lot of like, I guess that makes sense. And so I just was like, again, Luciano's system is probably very valid. It's not Morbius bad. So for that reason alone, it's an eh.

Chris (01:32:25.391)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Luciano (01:32:25.687)
Oh my god, I almost died from cringe.

Chris (01:32:34.388)
Hmm.

Luciano (01:32:44.676)
Hahaha

Matt (01:32:50.852)
It's an E.

Chris (01:32:51.006)
Mm-hmm For enema

Luciano (01:32:53.234)
Yeah, we set our bar, our low bar way too low.

Matt (01:32:57.412)
We did. Nothing, I don't, I'll be impressed if we ever get to a Morbius level movie. And to be fair, there is room on the F level, because Morbius is like the basement of the F level. But this, this did some things that were interesting and some things were funny and after it was like, yeah, it's alright, but I just, I'll never watch this again. It's already erased my brain, and for those reasons, it's an E. So, what are you gonna do? Um, so, Jackathon Part 3. Will the next movie we are doing, I believe is the Last Voyage of the Demeter, is that correct?

Luciano (01:33:01.453)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:33:06.443)
Yeah.

Chris (01:33:13.514)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:33:26.582)
That is correct.

Chris (01:33:27.618)
I believe so.

Matt (01:33:28.964)
So that was released this year and it was very poorly received in the theaters and instantly made it onto screaming platforms.

Chris (01:33:37.238)
Mm-hmm. Instantly?

Luciano (01:33:38.034)
Ugh.

Matt (01:33:39.364)
So, I mean, was that like a month? That's basically instantly in the movie world.

Chris (01:33:43.458)
That's how bad it was?

Luciano (01:33:43.854)
So, okay, wait, wait. That can mean one of two things. It can be really, really bad, or it could have just been like too not action-y, fast-paced for the theaters.

Matt (01:33:56.516)
I mean, Chris, it's a movie that's based on one chapter of fucking Bram Stoker's Dracula, so you know, there's probably a lot going on there, or not, in the case of, you know, who knows?

Chris (01:33:56.642)
Hmm.

Chris (01:34:02.018)
Hmm.

Luciano (01:34:02.039)
Oh no.

Chris (01:34:06.85)
I wonder if this will be like, you know, we don't have to answer, but I wonder if this is going to be in a similar runtime to werewolf by night. Like not a full length movie. I don't know, but it'll be interesting to find out. Really? Okay. I'm looking forward to it.

Luciano (01:34:14.718)
Like an hour thing? No, I don't think so. I think it's a full length movie. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Matt (01:34:23.204)
Yeah. It is two minutes and 35 seconds. Oh, that's just the trailer, nevermind.

Luciano (01:34:29.444)
Hahahaha!

Chris (01:34:30.375)
Oh, you actually read that out? I love this. You thought. Aw, your heart is pure.

Matt (01:34:35.62)
uh... well yet

Luciano (01:34:37.246)
I mean it is a single chapter that would make sense. Almost.

Matt (01:34:40.804)
Yeah, I mean, right?

Chris (01:34:41.158)
And then they died. They, they, they died.

Luciano (01:34:44.646)
What happened? Dracula was on a boat and then he killed everybody at the end.

Chris (01:34:48.47)
Dracula awoke from his slumber and then they all-

Luciano (01:34:52.727)
Yeah.

Matt (01:34:52.868)
I mean, that's, yeah, that sounds about accurate.

Luciano (01:34:56.982)
Oh, this is gonna be our second Dracula movie in this Jackathon. Yeah. Well, the other one was he was a side character, but yeah.

Chris (01:35:00.904)
Oh wow!

Renfield. Yeah. Yes!

Luciano (01:35:10.271)
Alright.

Matt (01:35:11.268)
Anyways, I'm excited to watch it. That'll be round three. Spencer should be back to watch it. And then it'll be a four way Jackathon. Yeah, obviously. I'm pinning this on him. The four way Jackathon will be on, it'll be great. So on that note, we will see you next time.

Luciano (01:35:12.855)
Same.

Chris (01:35:16.586)
and join the Jackathon.

Luciano (01:35:18.154)
I mean it was his pick so we know it's gonna be probably bad.

Chris (01:35:25.15)
I'm not going to look at the ratings.

Luciano (01:35:28.75)
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Chris (01:35:33.43)
Bring the crackers.