Matt (00:01.504)
Hello and welcome to popcorn and plot holes. We are continuing our December fun show type thing. And this week we are doing two things that are fun. I hope one is we're changing the format of the show and we're going to only ask questions. The stuff we normally do in the third part and where I'm going to award points to the answers and whoever gets the most points wins.

Prizes, effort grabs include Chris's undying love and admiration. Luciano's undying contempt. Like a lack of contempt. Oh, it's a positive one.

Laura Guest (00:28.655)
All right.

Luciano (00:35.061)
Lack of contempt. Lack of contempt. My con- My- My contempt you already have.

Chris (00:37.064)
No, that's not what you told me walking into this. No.

Matt (00:43.184)
Oh, thank you. And the second fun thing is we have a very special guest. Spencer has abandoned us once again. And so we, smartly or unsmartly, have invited my wife to join the podcast, Laura.

Laura Guest (00:45.439)
Oh, thank you.

Laura Guest (00:53.275)
Fuh-fuh-fuh-fuh!

Luciano (00:56.985)
Hey, welcome Laura.

Chris (00:58.21)
Welcome.

voice we are.

Laura Guest (01:01.738)
Hello boys!

Luciano (01:03.689)
Speak for yourself. Wait.

Matt (01:04.12)
So if you win, you might get Laura's Righteous Condemnation as a prize as well.

Laura Guest (01:05.782)
Hehehehehehe

Chris (01:07.307)
Alright.

Luciano (01:14.838)
All right.

Matt (01:17.328)
All options. Um, so, uh, one more thing before we start. We obviously watched Spider-Man across the multiverse. It is the second, the universe, Spider-verse, multiverse. It's all the same. They make a joke about it in the, in the, in the movie. Y'all got minus one point for that shit. Don't ever do ha let that happen again.

Laura Guest (01:17.9)
Quite.

Luciano (01:25.245)
The spider verse. Across the spider verse.

Chris (01:25.422)
Thwip, thwip!

Chris (01:29.494)
Yes. Mm.

Laura Guest (01:33.313)
Spider-verse bro!

Chris (01:35.212)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (01:39.61)
Nice.

Chris (01:41.826)
What did we do?

Matt (01:43.448)
Correcting me. That's a minus one point every single time. From here on out, the game show has started. You're all negative one. This is gonna be a really rocky game for you guys. Yeah, let's dive into these questions. What is the best part of this movie?

Chris (01:45.158)
No.

Damn.

Luciano (01:52.762)
That's what my dad told me.

Chris (01:58.423)
therapy.

Laura Guest (02:02.447)
Hahaha

Luciano (02:04.229)
Are you going to pick who goes first or are you going to do?

Matt (02:07.236)
I will. You can go first for talking out loud.

Chris (02:11.65)
Your impudence.

Laura Guest (02:12.079)
Hahaha

Luciano (02:12.134)
Okay, the best part about this movie was the chase scene in Miguel O'Hara's universe. Just the zany, insane chase of a billion Spider-Men going after a single kid who's not even sure how to be Spider-Man and nobody catching him and him outsmarting them. Just the shenanigans and the fun, the comedy in that was...

I was laughing my ass off. I watched that scene three times.

Laura Guest (02:44.48)
relatable.

Matt (02:46.821)
Okay, Chris, rebuttal.

Chris (02:49.526)
Rebuttal, I think we all have space for the scenes we enjoyed the most. My favorite scenes were actually the ones with Hobie, Spider Hobie, Spider Punk with the, I don't, I don't believe in, yeah, I don't believe in comedy. I don't, but, but that was a joke. I'm joking. Yeah. And then him like just like, I don't know. It's, it's,

Luciano (03:04.797)
Daniel Kaluuya.

Luciano (03:11.013)
Hahaha

Chris (03:16.174)
It's like he had omniscience in a way, and he's like, use all of your palms, bro, not just the fingertips, to help him escape. And then he quits, but thought ahead far enough to leave his special watch, or sent his watch to Gwen in her dimension. So yeah, the culmination of his scenes were just really cool. Yeah, he was, that was his, yeah.

Matt (03:44.8)
Okay, interesting, interesting answer. Laura, what do you think?

Laura Guest (03:51.755)
Okay, so when you post the question, did you say your favorite part of the movie? Did you mean scenes or did you mean like anything of the movie? Because these fellas here are more experienced with your question asking. So I just wanna make sure.

Matt (04:04.767)
Well.

Matt (04:10.726)
First of all...

Laura Guest (04:14.691)
Yes.

Matt (04:15.963)
is the best part of the movie.

Laura Guest (04:21.467)
Okay, my favorite part of the movie was the animation and the different types and how they got them all in there. You know, like Hobie being different and I'm not an animation person and I'm not super into or I don't have a lot of experience in these movies, but it was just fun to watch all the different types of animation that...

Matt (04:22.264)
Ha ha

Laura Guest (04:48.911)
you know, all came together like really seamlessly and it never seemed like, oh my gosh, this is particularly out of place. Except, ooh, I have a caveat, but you're not asking for caveat. So caveat.

Matt (04:58.232)
I'm not do not do not copy out do not don't do it um

Chris (05:01.026)
Do it anyway. Do it. Do it.

Laura Guest (05:07.031)
You know what? I'm already in the negative, so I'm just gonna caveat it. What I found annoying was... I literally paused it and asked Matt if it was supposed to be a 3D movie. For some reason, they were gonna give out 3D glasses to people who downloaded it. Because it took me so long to realize... I think I might have started out with a headache, but by the end, it was not a small headache. Because I realized that...

Chris (05:07.908)
I keep digging down.

Chris (05:12.508)
Yeah

Chris (05:22.286)
I got that.

Laura Guest (05:34.675)
The clear image was what they wanted you to focus on and everything like outside of the character they wanted you to look at was kind of blurry-ish. And I'm somebody who very much like I like looking at the entire scene. So yeah, did not like that. Least favorite part.

Luciano (05:37.543)
Yeah.

Chris (05:42.326)
Mmm.

Chris (05:51.254)
good point. I wondered the same thing at some point. Wait a minute, am I missing something here? Yeah. And then...

Laura Guest (05:55.299)
because you asked or will ask. Yeah. It was like, yeah.

Luciano (06:02.193)
You want to pause, Matt?

Matt (06:04.3)
I'm just going to write them all down. It's fine. There's no way to get around it at this point from Laura. Because your legouts, Laura, are actually causing you to talk like that. But there's no other way to do this. No. It's likely the Wi-Fi. I mean, we have a mesh router down the hall. We can't do anything better with it. You'd have to be closer if not plugged in.

Luciano (06:06.287)
Okay.

Luciano (06:18.233)
No, I don't. Yeah.

Laura Guest (06:19.107)
I don't know what else to do. The door's open.

Luciano (06:27.838)
I think the recording is going to be fine, I think, because it's local.

Matt (06:31.064)
Hopefully the recording's fine, but I'm just marking down all the times for it.

Laura Guest (06:36.247)
I know, but I'm nervous that we're not gonna be able to riff off each other if it's like there's a lag.

Matt (06:38.15)
We'll be fine.

Luciano (06:38.527)
No, it's fine.

Matt (06:41.188)
It's very slow, or slow. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Laura Guest (06:43.319)
Just laugh when I start or when you hear me finish talking. Just laugh. Okay. If nothing else than just for my ego.

Chris (06:44.942)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Luciano (06:46.728)
Hahaha!

Chris (06:52.45)
Oh, no still. Yeah. You're doing great though. Thank you for coming. I'm happy you're here.

Matt (07:00.235)
All right.

Laura Guest (07:01.158)
Thank you. Okay, I'm trying to inch closer to the Wi-Fi.

Luciano (07:06.117)
Yeah.

Matt (07:07.016)
Yeah, as you say that you timed up, we know we do. Yeah, we'll jump back in here. I'll jump back in with the scoring for the first round. And we'll move forward like that if that works.

Laura Guest (07:09.683)
Literally three inches. Classic.

Matt (07:22.676)
Oh and Laura don't hesitate to mute yourself when you're not talking, just cause that way you won't pick up me or Bruce or any weird sounds.

Laura Guest (07:32.658)
I...

Matt (07:34.056)
Okay

Matt (07:39.752)
Okay, well those are all answers. Congratulations to all of you. Let me tell you what I liked and didn't like. I didn't like how Laura said she liked the animation and then immediately said it made her get a headache. So I'm not gonna pick that answer. And Luciano was too basic. I'm gonna pick Chris's answer because I think it was good. Hubie, Hubie was good. So you got one point. Hobie, Hubie, whatever.

Chris (07:43.15)
J- No! Hmm.

Laura Guest (07:49.527)
Hehehehe

Laura Guest (07:56.867)
Hehehehe

Chris (08:01.055)
shit.

Luciano (08:05.065)
Hobie.

Matt (08:08.236)
That's minus, that's a minus number one to you, Liscano.

Laura Guest (08:09.32)
Matt, you have called Hobie...

Luciano (08:10.747)
I'm aiming to be the lowest I can possibly be.

Laura Guest (08:15.775)
You have called Hobie, Coby and Hoobie. Like you should no longer be allowed to do this.

Luciano (08:17.491)
Ha ha ha!

Matt (08:19.976)
You're also at minus two. Chris, you're off to a roaring lead at zero points.

Chris (08:24.054)
I know! I'm at zero! I have nothing! I don't even have less than the- I just have nothing! Winning!

Laura Guest (08:27.53)
Hehehe

Matt (08:30.605)
You're doing really well. I'm proud of you.

Laura Guest (08:34.155)
I feel like I should get a point for like not picking a scene but picking an attribute of the film and that was really creative of me. Thank me.

Chris (08:40.142)
This is true.

Matt (08:40.277)
I... Yeah, it was creative until you decided to also shoot down your own point in your own conversation. That was not the way to go about it.

Luciano (08:46.502)
and also to mention how creative it was. Ha ha ha.

Laura Guest (08:48.571)
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Chris (08:49.438)
You know, but let's not forget how amazing the music was. Like in every sector of the movie, it had a character. Who are you? When is, when? Listen, listen.

Laura Guest (09:00.627)
minus a friggin point for that.

Luciano (09:01.553)
I think you're back below zero with us. Ha ha!

Matt (09:04.433)
I don't, I don't, Chris, we are done with that question. Is this your answer for the next question? Are you trying to buzz in beforehand?

Laura Guest (09:12.047)
I'm not gonna do that.

Chris (09:12.266)
Yeah, if I had a buzzer, I'd be digging it right now. Furthermore, I thought you were dishing out the points. I thought that's how this was structured.

Matt (09:18.56)
I already did, but we already answered the question. No more entries into the category. Okay. Hey Chris, why is Gwen the real villain?

Chris (09:21.802)
I don't want more. I don't want more points. I'd be happy to stay if I win at zero. That'd be an achievement. Oh, hi.

Ooh, Gwen be the villain because she didn't know how to ask for help. But that's a recurring theme in this stage of her development as an adolescent. Being a spider person. Well, they're teens, right? Aren't they teens?

Matt (09:38.54)
Wow, it's real.

Laura Guest (09:47.351)
Let's go say she's a child.

Luciano (09:51.049)
So you're saying Laura that all children are villains? Is that what you're saying?

Laura Guest (09:57.595)
pretty much. I think all teens are children and all children are villains, so all teens are villains.

Luciano (09:57.609)
I'm not disagreeing, I'm just asking.

Matt (09:59.716)
Okay.

Luciano (10:07.517)
Sorry, it checks out.

Chris (10:08.718)
So Gwen is the real villain of this movie because she's a teen, she doesn't ask for help. She's in a band which is supposed to be semi-cathartic, but she chooses to isolate herself from the first band. Instead of having a heart to heart with her father, she just avoids him at all costs, and you know, which exacerbated, yeah.

Matt (10:15.193)
Thanks for watching!

Laura Guest (10:15.72)
She's a teen.

Laura Guest (10:34.339)
I'm sorry. Her father. Why would she have a heart to heart to the man who literally chose to arrest her? He chose the law over his daughter. And there was nobody else around. There was nobody else around.

Luciano (10:40.965)
I have to, I have to agree with Laura here. Have to agree with Laura here.

Chris (10:42.37)
But remember, I know, but remember, think it like the event took place and then all that time passed, right? So the father still made, the father is in the wrong because he should have really listened, but she was also in the wrong for waiting that long too. Cause it's just compounds the event and then makes it.

Laura Guest (10:55.211)
Uh huh.

Laura Guest (11:04.044)
He literally did the exact thing she thought that he would do if she told him the truth about herself. So that was confirmation right there.

Chris (11:04.095)
Mmm.

Luciano (11:10.009)
Yep. Yeah. She's like, Oh, so the thing that prevented me from doing the thing I didn't want to do is exactly what happened. I guess I was right. Fuck you old man. I'm out. I don't blame her.

Chris (11:22.946)
No. Yeah. Sad.

Laura Guest (11:24.035)
Yeah. Also, sorry, you brought up the band and like, remember the keyboardist when she was like, I didn't join a band to talk and the keyboardist is like, I did. I was like, okay, sorry.

Chris (11:30.414)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Luciano (11:30.759)
Hahahaha!

Matt (11:34.368)
Um, so Chris's answer was, uh, because of teenage angst and other things. Um, Laura defended Gwen, which is not a great start to her answer. Um, Laura, would you like to, okay. Would you like to answer?

Luciano (11:42.17)
Yes.

Luciano (11:49.909)
Hahaha!

Laura Guest (11:54.336)
No, I have an answer.

Matt (11:57.048)
Please.

Laura Guest (11:57.655)
I would like to answer. Thank you, Matt. My answer is that Gwen is the villain here because she didn't tell... His name is Miles, right? She didn't tell Miles. She didn't tell Miles what was going on. Like she could have just been like, Hey, so there's a whole like spider

Chris (12:07.35)
Yes. You did see this movie. You saw, I know you saw this movie now. Yes you did.

Luciano (12:07.781)
Yes, the main character, yes, it's Miles. Ha ha ha.

Matt (12:11.564)
Wow.

Laura Guest (12:27.331)
I'm not supposed to talk about it. And like, yeah. Cause if they're supposed to be friends, you know?

Matt (12:36.156)
Okay. Mm hmm. Luciano, try to steal the point.

Laura Guest (12:38.192)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (12:40.742)
So she's the villain because she didn't follow orders and because she didn't follow orders she almost destroyed the whole canon. I yield my time.

Chris (12:53.422)
Ciano hates children.

Matt (12:58.092)
Hmm.

Laura Guest (12:58.147)
gas. That's a pretty good one.

Chris (12:59.215)
He's not denying it. Process, process it.

Luciano (13:00.696)
It's not it's not it's not just that mad is like who gave the worst answer this is what he's thinking right now. Yeah for sure.

Chris (13:07.294)
Oh, is that what he's thinking? Also, what kind of game show are we most like, I wonder. Anyways, it's all good.

Matt (13:09.037)
Mm-hmm.

Laura Guest (13:11.607)
Hehehehe

Matt (13:13.085)
Yes, I'm going to.

Laura Guest (13:16.587)
Also, who asked the worst question? I don't know. Was it our host? Who knows?

Matt (13:19.092)
Wow, I was about to award the point to Laura, which I will, and then minus a point from her for questioning me. So for SAS. So that's a zero for everybody somehow on this question.

Chris (13:19.778)
What?

Luciano (13:22.702)
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Laura Guest (13:28.58)
For SAS?

Chris (13:31.822)
Still had zero! Still had zero! Well, we're all winning at zero.

Matt (13:34.936)
Chris is still winning at zero. We're flying. We are, hey.

Luciano (13:39.041)
No, we all got zero in this one. I'm still at minus two.

Laura Guest (13:41.806)
Yeah.

Matt (13:42.188)
Yeah, you are. You didn't go down, so that was good. Who is the worst mentor? Is it Peter Parker or is it Jessica Zhu?

Chris (13:44.583)
Mmm. Oh, I thought y'all came back, nevermind.

Matt (13:59.267)
Laura, would you like to answer first?

Luciano (14:00.329)
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Laura Guest (14:03.913)
Yeah! It's Jessica Drew! I took the mic away from my mouth while I yelled, was that okay?

Luciano (14:10.503)
Yeah.

Matt (14:12.109)
That's professional.

Chris (14:13.378)
That's good. Card testing.

Luciano (14:13.442)
I wish more people did that.

Laura Guest (14:18.429)
frigging monster she is she like oh I don't she just everything was so bad like being like guilty here being like you're supposed to be my star pupil putting her out on this mission in the first place and then like watch I don't know I just didn't like anything and then like shitting on Peter Parker like go fuck yourself

Chris (14:21.737)
Mm.

Laura Guest (14:41.977)
I yield my time. Is that the thing that we're saying? I yield my time. Fuck you, Jessica.

Luciano (14:43.982)
Nice.

Chris (14:44.514)
works whether you did or you didn't yield it that's a pretty strong mic drop.

Luciano (14:48.583)
Yeah.

Matt (14:52.343)
Uh, Chris, you look confused, so this is not the time to ask you.

Laura Guest (14:53.15)
Unyielded.

Chris (14:53.258)
It does. I don't look confused. I'm no, you can ask me. It's fine. Um, I think it's twofold. I plus, I actually, I plus one Laura's answer. Um, and then my add on is, is Miguel, right? So like Jessica's, uh, Jessica, like if only a month passed, she should have had more, that would have been more time that she had or a few months that she had with Gwen versus

Peter and Miles that was roughly one movie which could have been maybe a day or two. I don't know. But like clearly well actually no shit. The teacher in the dynamic the teacher and the student relationship is key. So just because you're a shit teacher or mentor the quality and ability for your student to listen and be open to the feedback is also a factor too. So that's that. Jessica still is pretty bad. But Miguel is even worse.

because he's supposed to be the leader slash mentor of the entire Spider society carrying all...

Matt (15:59.188)
You're wrong, now we're done, I'm cutting you off. You're getting no points for this answer. Luciano.

Chris (16:03.246)
I don't want points. I'm enjoying my time with y'all. Says who?

Laura Guest (16:05.989)
Miguel? Miguel wasn't an option. Our wonderful host...

Luciano (16:06.761)
Exactly! That's why I'm laughing. So who is the who's the worst? A or B? So here's why C is the worst. That's why you did.

Laura Guest (16:16.649)
Yeah!

Chris (16:17.486)
Did he give us the options? Peter and... Well...

Luciano (16:19.049)
No, he gave the option of Jessica Drew and Peter Parker. That's it.

Matt (16:20.213)
Yes!

Laura Guest (16:20.329)
Look at... Yessssssssssssssssssss He did!

Chris (16:24.898)
Out of the goodness of my heart, I thought there was an option that someone might be overlooking, but-

Matt (16:28.924)
Absolutely not. You're lucky you're not getting a negative point for that. You're just losing this round immediately.

Luciano (16:32.681)
Ha ha ha!

Chris (16:33.45)
I respect your decision, you can still give me the negative point if you think I deserve it.

Laura Guest (16:34.865)
Yeah!

Matt (16:37.196)
now.

Laura Guest (16:39.845)
It's also a bad answer.

Matt (16:39.909)
That's why, yeah. Luciano.

Chris (16:42.242)
Can I have two negative points then? What the fuck?

Laura Guest (16:43.753)
Ha ha ha!

Luciano (16:43.893)
So here's the thing. Jessica is a piece of shit, but Jessica only had one movie to be a mentor. Peter Parker failed in both movies because he was more concerned with showing how cute his daughter was, which, mind you, the cutest thing that Marvel has ever put in any sort of media is his daughter in this movie, it's the cutest thing ever, but he...

Laura Guest (16:49.626)
Yeah.

Luciano (17:10.621)
That made him a shit mentor. He was more interested in, you know, which makes him a good father to take care of his daughter, but that he gave shit advice to Miles. He was condescending, like, oh, you have to go back because this is how it is. No, that's not what he needed to hear at all there. He needed to be on the side of his pupil. And he...

Chris (17:25.698)
Yeah, good question.

Laura Guest (17:26.629)
What should advice, specifically?

Chris (17:34.658)
But...

Laura Guest (17:35.697)
Yeah, that was kind of shit actually. Yeah.

Chris (17:37.558)
Yes, and he tried to do that. Go on.

Luciano (17:40.585)
How? He was like, oh, you have to go back because this is, this is happens with everybody. Blib, blib, blib.

Chris (17:42.038)
Yeah, when everyone was chasing, you said that. That was the first, right? That was the first part. And then when everyone chased and Peter and Gwen were swinging almost kind of behind the hoard, Peter hung back because he saw another approach and he wanted to try to just talk to him. And that I can't fault him for. That's why he's still better than Jessica.

Luciano (18:05.052)
Bye.

Matt (18:09.581)
Thanks for watching!

Laura Guest (18:09.849)
Yeah, agreed. I also think that your hand motions of how it happened really brought the whole scene to life. I wish that your listeners could see that because that was that was genius.

Chris (18:15.286)
Thank you. In audio? That's right. Mygesticulating is a device that helps me coerce the words and communication out.

Luciano (18:15.889)
It's amazing podcasting. Yeah.

Matt (18:18.99)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (18:25.797)
Listen, we're supposed to believe that he improved as a mentor from one movie to the other and he remains a shitty mentor. That's why he's the worst.

Matt (18:33.436)
Luciano, how much of your answer and the testimony of others are you going to include in your final answer?

Luciano (18:42.569)
All that I said and you know, everything else, why?

Chris (18:46.734)
I feel like we're in court.

Matt (18:47.428)
So are you including Chris and Laura's statements in your final answer or just only what you said? Oh, okay. That's the correct response. Luciano, you've won this round. You get three points for rejecting the other two people and taking it by yourself. So just to update you on the scores, Luciano and Chris are tied at one and Laura has negative two.

Luciano (18:52.373)
Oh no, fuck what they said, no. Just what I said.

Chris (18:55.95)
So what are you saying?

Laura Guest (18:57.794)
Hahaha.

Luciano (18:57.886)
Ha ha ha!

Laura Guest (19:04.903)
off.

Chris (19:05.302)
Wow, it's palpable in the streets.

Chris (19:15.191)
I still was at zero. I'm so glad I'm not keeping track

Luciano (19:16.949)
I think... I think in the end we're all losers here.

Matt (19:22.484)
Maybe, we don't know. Let's see how low you can get your scores. No, I would never do that to you. This is just, this is just a fair, a fair scoring game. Next question. In the movie, Gwen and Scarlet Spider end up going to Miles's universe to find him. And actually, just Scarlet Spider. Gwen tracks him down.

Laura Guest (19:23.974)
Yeah.

Luciano (19:24.722)
Hahaha

Laura Guest (19:27.441)
I think like especially me since I'm married to... to my... hahahaha

Chris (19:31.089)
How low can you go?

Laura Guest (19:33.618)
Hehehe

Matt (19:51.672)
coming out of her weird little portal, takes his portal thingy off his wrist and then kicks him through her portal given to her by Bowser.

Luciano (20:02.582)
Bowser!

Matt (20:05.712)
I'm pretty sure that's his name. And what I want to know is what happens when Captain Stacy finds the Scarlet Spider in his apartment?

Luciano (20:07.017)
Uh-huh.

Laura Guest (20:09.68)
Ha ha

Luciano (20:18.991)
Oh.

Chris (20:20.978)
Ugh, head is spinning. My acutely defined eyebrow. It's Andy Samberg from Brooklyn Nine-Nine. What do you mean? She asked who's got, she, is it does? Yes, Andy, did it help? Andy Samberg, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, SNL, Lonely Island, Hot Rod.

Laura Guest (20:23.585)
snaps. Who was Scarlet Spider-gun?

Luciano (20:28.677)
That doesn't help. That doesn't help. Yeah. He's... Well, I know... I know... I know who Andy Samberg is, you doofus!

Laura Guest (20:31.123)
Thank you.

From Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

I'm just going to do a quick Google.

Laura Guest (20:43.196)
I'm just laughing so hard.

Chris (20:43.342)
I wasn't talking to you, you bastard! I was talking to Laura! Heheheheh!

Luciano (20:47.734)
Y'all so nos!

Matt (20:47.78)
To be fair, Chris, I don't mind the statement that Andy Samberg was Scarlet Spider, but saying more of what Andy Samberg does really isn't clear past the initial, it's Andy Samberg.

Laura Guest (20:54.025)
Yeah.

Chris (20:55.366)
Yes!

Chris (20:58.794)
Yes it does! We- that's just-

Luciano (20:59.603)
Uh, so Laura, let me give you a real answer. Remember when miles first get, um, to the, like the spider society and there's like one brooding leaning against the beauty that's Scarlet spider. That's him.

Laura Guest (21:03.567)
Can you give more spider references?

Laura Guest (21:15.541)
Yeah? Ohhhhhhhhhh

Luciano (21:16.113)
See Chris, that's how you answer the question.

Chris (21:16.138)
Oh, that's what you wanted to know? That's what you wanted to know? Maybe there was some context that she needed and if you didn't butt in, we would have got there.

Laura Guest (21:21.198)
Yes! Yeah!

Luciano (21:25.206)
But Scarlet Spider has a voice actor! Hahahaha! Yeah, yeah.

Matt (21:25.889)
Hey.

Laura Guest (21:31.484)
Chris was answering the voice actor question, which was not asked.

Matt (21:32.128)
Hey, hey Chris, you're gonna get minus one on that answer because it didn't help whatsoever. Okay, it did not.

Chris (21:34.058)
Yes, sir. I'll take it. Oh, I helped all right. I helped everybody. And everybody is welcome. So you can sit down, Luciano. You can sit down and defeat.

Luciano (21:42.05)
Oh god. I'm- I'm sitting down! I haven't stood up- but anyway.

Laura Guest (21:45.491)
You helped up Andy Samberg's clout.

Chris (21:48.622)
That's right, stand up and sit down. Next question whenever you're ready, sir.

Matt (21:53.032)
What's the same question? Still. What did Captain Stacy do when the Scarlet Spider showed up in his apartment through the portal that Gwen took to Miles' universe?

Chris (21:55.712)
WICKED!

Laura Guest (21:57.829)
haha

Chris (22:03.946)
Mm-mm, mm. Probably asked him what he does to get so such impeccable deltoids. And then since they didn't, since Scarlet Spider-Man Riley is like, yes.

Matt (22:17.004)
Sorry, who? Scarlet Spider asks Captain Stacy or Captain Stacy asks Scarlet Spider?

Chris (22:20.618)
Reverse. Captain Stacey, cause like, Captain Stacey's mind's been blown. His daughter has gone through some, something and exited to somewhere. So he's like, all right, fuck. All right, but then this ripped motherfucker, cell shaded man comes in, pops in and I don't know, what else are you gonna ask?

Luciano (22:43.756)
I'm uncomfortable with that noise.

Matt (22:45.4)
Sorry. How tasty is Scarlet Spider? I just wanna clarify that.

Chris (22:45.61)
What you need to, sorry, I only did that, I.

Laura Guest (22:47.926)
I don't like that sound.

Chris (22:50.55)
This is just really good comedic timing because I was just clearing my throat. I was clearing my throat. Let me clear, let me, let me clear my throat. I was cleansing my palate because I'd been drinking sangria and I had pomegranate seeds in my mouth and I was moving them out of the way. Anyways, Captain Stacy has this spider dude. You know, you guys gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah. The Scarlet Spider, be testoid. Like be the tastiest of tasty, okay? Have you?

Luciano (22:52.175)
His deltoids, how tasty his deltoids are.

Laura Guest (23:09.797)
Ooh, sounds good.

Matt (23:11.776)
You didn't answer my question. How tasty is the scarlet spider? Deltoids.

Chris (23:20.622)
Testoids it's the combination silence. It's the combination of testicles Steroids and then a hot mashed potato seasoned

Luciano (23:21.701)
Are you, wait, are you?

Laura Guest (23:22.948)
What is happening?

Luciano (23:30.109)
So let me ask you this, you said you were drinking sangria, you sure it's not ketamine?

Chris (23:34.847)
Nah, bruh.

Laura Guest (23:38.598)
I yield my time, but I mean like in a way that I'm leaving this podcast right now.

Luciano (23:40.929)
I know how you feel. Every other episode I asked to leave, they never let me leave.

Chris (23:42.838)
You asked me how tasty. I tried. Every time you try to leave, bitch, we locked the door. So anyways, he's like, what are you gonna get those bell toys?

Matt (23:49.876)
Um, cool. That's a weird. Wow. Um, Luciano, do you want to take a crack at answering this?

Luciano (23:53.977)
Yeah, this is... I don't know if I do. I don't know if I'm ready for Ketamine Joe over here, but you know, I suppose...

Chris (23:55.63)
I'm spicy as fuck tonight, this is great.

Matt (23:59.84)
I mean, okay. There's no wrong answer at this point in the question.

Chris (24:04.626)
Excuse me, it's Ketamine, it's Ketamine Kyle.

Laura Guest (24:05.021)
Ha ha ha!

Chris (24:10.53)
Ketamine can. Ketamine can is kinf.

Laura Guest (24:12.09)
Ketamine can. I'm just ketamine can.

Luciano (24:15.333)
So to answer your question, dear host, what does Captain Stacy do when he finds Ben Reilly there? I think what he does is he asks who he is and then Scarlet Spider just goes on to like a 25 minute diatribe about how his life is unfair and how he has...

Matt (24:17.866)
Uh-huh.

Luciano (24:43.145)
many memories and too many hardships to remember and he hugs Captain Stacy and for the next 20 or so minutes he uses him as both a friend but as a therapist as well and they become friends for life and Ben Reilly joins the police force in Earth 65 and becomes a decorated

Matt (24:47.428)
Mm.

Luciano (25:11.737)
and then he dies. He's the one who dies in that canon event. That's what happens.

Chris (25:12.017)
cut to the outside shot.

Chris (25:16.334)
cut to the outside shot of Captain Stacy's apartment window and then he just throws Ben Scarlet Spider out. Get the fuck out of my house!

Luciano (25:23.837)
Hahaha!

Matt (25:25.22)
Sorry, you already had your answer and you wasted it on ketamine apparently.

Chris (25:28.354)
I don't care. That's okay. Ketamine Ken, Ketamine Kyle.

Laura Guest (25:28.925)
Hehehehe

Matt (25:35.02)
Laura, did you, I know you said you didn't want to answer, but do you want to take a crack? You did.

Laura Guest (25:39.431)
Okay.

Did I say that? Roll back the tape.

Matt (25:43.116)
Not actually is guaranteed as zero. That's a thing. That might be good enough.

Laura Guest (25:50.441)
Okay, hold on. Okay, so I would just like to confirm, because I honestly don't remember this happening in the movie, but I just want to confirm that this happened after Gwen Stacy and her father like reunited in her room. Yeah, okay, don't worry about it.

Matt (26:00.128)
Yeah, so it technically doesn't happen in the movie. What do you mean don't worry about it? You just asked me and I'm giving you the answer. I don't care. So in the movie, George Stacey and his daughter have their heartwarming moment. And then he's like, Bugsy left this thing for you and it's the teleporter. She goes through the teleporter and she kicks the crap out of Scarlet Spider and kicks him through the teleporter she just came in.

Luciano (26:07.595)
Yeah, let me confirm this. I don't care. Moving on. Ha ha ha.

Chris (26:09.942)
He said that...

Laura Guest (26:10.097)
Okay, so... So... Hahaha!

Luciano (26:22.441)
looks.

Laura Guest (26:24.402)
Yeah.

Matt (26:28.776)
So we know that he went back to her apartment where her dad is waiting.

Laura Guest (26:37.253)
Okay, so I like to think that...

Laura Guest (26:44.337)
Sorry, time out for a second. The baby is rumbling.

Matt (26:46.786)
Okay.

Laura Guest (26:52.685)
I think she's okay.

Matt (26:55.377)
Give it a minute, just take a- You know, we'll just pause for a minute or two If anybody needs to go to the washroom now, go ahead

Laura Guest (26:57.277)
kicking around.

Matt (27:03.02)
Then go to the washroom. Anybody can. How do you- what are you talking about? You can just pee. You can hear the baby from the washroom.

Laura Guest (27:04.265)
I don't need to pee but I know how to watch this baby.

Matt (27:14.82)
Take the, take the monitor. Maybe take your headset off.

Laura Guest (27:20.89)
Sorry guys. Oh yeah, that's yeah. Thank you.

Luciano (27:21.553)
Hahaha

Matt (27:27.372)
Um, while she's gone, I've been letting you guys riff. Do we think that's working versus me sticking us to the questions?

Luciano (27:32.433)
Yeah.

But I think we can't riff too much because otherwise we're gonna be here for three hours.

Chris (27:39.924)
Yeah, I'll ease off.

Matt (27:41.812)
We are four questions in and it's taken us 25 minutes.

Luciano (27:45.785)
Yeah, that's my point. So riffing a little bit, I think it's good because it's what's fun, but yeah, we shouldn't like do what we always do where we go in a fucking tangent and then we end up in fucking asphalt tuxedos and shit. Like, so probably shouldn't do that.

Chris (27:46.193)
Okay.

Matt (27:59.336)
Yeah. Okay. I'll try to reel you in a smidge more.

Luciano (28:19.885)
I actually don't remember that scene, the one you were talking about now, man, where like he like Scarlet Spider gets kicked into the portal and shoot.

Matt (28:30.42)
Yeah, she, um, when, when she comes through, she rips off as a little transporter and kicks them through the portal and then it closes. Um.

Luciano (28:37.381)
Yeah, I know. It's not that I don't remember the whole thing. What I meant is I didn't connect to the fact that, oh, shit, he's going to appear where she just left off from. So it's good. Yeah.

Matt (28:47.712)
Yeah, it really helps. It really helps having seen it a couple times because then I could focus on stuff happening in the background sometimes versus not watching the main. Because for me, like for me watching the background helps to make weird questions, right?

Luciano (28:54.084)
Yeah.

Chris (28:59.343)
Yeah, I watched it last night so it's a bit fresh.

Luciano (29:03.981)
Yeah, I was doing exactly what Laura was saying. Like I was trying to look at everything. And I realized that when they wanted you, when they needed you to look at the background for any reason, they did like a watercolor thing. I don't know if you noticed that. I thought it was so, the whole visual language of this movie was fucking amazing. But I'll try to, I've been trying to find a way to bring it up when we're talking about the questions. But if I don't, then I don't. But yeah, when like, when...

Matt (29:30.58)
Yeah, it's hard, right?

Luciano (29:33.585)
Every time Gwen hugs Captain Stacy, you see the colors become more pastel. Yeah, it's super nice.

Matt (29:40.532)
Yep. Warmin. Yep.

Matt (29:49.24)
We pause on Laura answering, starting her answer, right?

Laura Guest (29:54.605)
Yeah, I know my answer. Okay, sorry, I think she's chill. Chill, baby, chill.

Matt (29:56.141)
Okay, go ahead now.

Laura Guest (30:04.489)
Okay, so I'd like to think that after, you know, going through what he went through with his daughter, that he'd be all like, come here, my boy, and, you know, have like a nice heart to heart with him. But I think he definitely pulled his gun on him. And then he was kind of like, oh shoot, my daughter Gwen would never do this or something like that. And then, but kept his hand on his gun and invited Scarlet Spider to the table and then did shots with, did,

Luciano (30:11.325)
I'm out.

Laura Guest (30:34.385)
offered him a shot but then this garlic guy was like so sad and mopey that he just like kept talking and so um Captain Stacey started taking shots on his own and kind of got belligerent and then the two of them Gwen comes in on them um hugging and crying

Luciano (30:46.574)
Hey, Matt, I have a question. Do you think it would be dangerous to channel in Sal Spencer here for a second?

Matt (30:55.148)
Barry, don't worry, there's some questions later that it'll be safe for the channel and sell Spencer. Yeah.

Luciano (30:57.037)
All right, okay. Not because I was gonna go um actually, but you were living it alone.

Laura Guest (30:57.584)
Yes.

Matt (31:02.772)
No, that seems a little aggressive. Chris receives negative one point for this question due to his earlier infraction and then his answer being a zero. I'm going to give this one to Laura just for spiciness factors.

Luciano (31:04.722)
Ha ha!

Luciano (31:18.589)
Right.

Laura Guest (31:18.665)
Please, please, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Deserved, well deserved. Way to go, LCC.

Matt (31:20.14)
Yeah. You're welcome.

Chris (31:21.262)
Okay.

Luciano (31:22.413)
How many points?

Matt (31:25.229)
It's you're leading one. Chris has zero and Laura has negative one. So really neck and neck on the scores right now.

Luciano (31:27.719)
Okay.

Laura Guest (31:33.565)
Boo-yah!

Matt (31:38.004)
Yeah, this is okay. So in the movie we see many spider people things some are people some are cars some are other things and They all end up chasing Spider-man miles Morales specifically and thankfully in that we get to see the Hilarious recreation of the three spider-man pointing at each other thing, which is excellent

Luciano (32:04.997)
Yeah!

Matt (32:07.424)
And so, but it starts me thinking from that and then we get to them chasing and all the things that happened to all the spider people things. And I'm starting to wonder why is it that a singular spider people thing is very smart? But collectively these spider people things are very dumb.

Laura Guest (32:10.252)
That was good.

Luciano (32:28.732)
question.

Chris (32:28.794)
What do you mean? What do you mean this...

Matt (32:30.212)
Spider-Man, like, Spider-Man himself is generally smart and can figure out sciency stuff and can make logical plans and puzzles, but they all chase after him like bumbling idiots.

Luciano (32:40.871)
Oh, you noticed that, did you?

Laura Guest (32:44.177)
Yeah, it's kind of like what's-

Laura Guest (32:49.801)
It's kind of like what's the collective thing that makes you a Spider-Man, right? Is it just like the web throwing and like the physical aspect? Because they definitely aren't sharing the smarts.

Luciano (32:58.569)
I think they're sharing one smart among all of them.

Laura Guest (33:05.329)
Wow!

Luciano (33:05.951)
I guess I can go since I started. Um, so I think that what happens is, you know, how in movies where if you have to fight, like if the hero has to fight one enemy, that enemy is really hard. And it's like a long fight, but if he has to fight like a, a horde of like nameless mooks, it's easy to dispatch like 20 or 30 of them.

Chris (33:05.986)
I suppose.

Luciano (33:28.673)
I think it's a similar thing. I think they call that conservation of ninjitsu, right? If you spread it out, I think it's conservation of intellect. When he's alone and has to do things on his own, he is really smart, but they all share one brain. So when they're, you know, sir, like going after miles, miles is still using his own brain, but all of those spider things were just sharing the one brain remaining. So that's my theory, my very advanced philosophy, PhD theory.

Matt (33:57.732)
It's a bold angle.

Chris (33:58.964)
My answer is hubris. I figured the spider society were like, there's no way he can get away. Let's just all chase him.

Matt (34:04.696)
Sorry, sorry, QB is, your answer is QB?

Chris (34:08.766)
I said hubris, god damn it.

Luciano (34:10.702)
Hahaha! Yeah, no you're fine. It's just Matt doesn't know the name of the character. It's fine.

Matt (34:10.896)
Okay, I bet.

Chris (34:13.038)
Hubrish, hubrish, his hubrish, which we are. Yeah, they were, I think they were all too, too overconfident and like, I don't, I don't remember the full count of how many spider people there were in this, in the society. Though like a whole lot of them. If they, I, I said my, my assumption, while it may bleed into Luciano's a little bit, I think it's ego. They're like, there's no way he can get away from all of us spider people. If it was like,

It would be different if it was like a police department, right? They don't have the same abilities, but like the playing field is level. A spider police department. So you can't really, you can't really get away from someone who's doing, who can do the same things as you unless the, uh, like the, um, the, the target. The target I'm trying to think of another word for the target. Um, it has to do something else. Like you guys. Thank you. Well, no, you don't.

Matt (34:49.265)
Isn't it a police department, though?

Luciano (34:51.855)
In a way.

Matt (35:09.91)
Is that what you want to say?

Luciano (35:11.205)
Yeah. Oh no. Oh no.

Chris (35:13.058)
You know, but he didn't commit a crime. He didn't commit a crime. If the glove don't fit, you must have quit. So, no, no.

Laura Guest (35:14.941)
Yeah

Matt (35:17.325)
Didn't hear.

Luciano (35:20.01)
Oh no!

Laura Guest (35:21.661)
Didn't he?

Matt (35:24.969)
Laura, would you like to answer?

Luciano (35:25.981)
Too soon, too soon.

Laura Guest (35:27.636)
Too soon.

Chris (35:29.302)
Too soon, OJ did it.

Laura Guest (35:32.621)
Yeah, I think...

Chris (35:35.001)
I can say that. We can all say that.

Laura Guest (35:36.513)
Hey, listen. He... Wait, I don't know. Uh... Sss...

Chris (35:40.098)
Yeah

Matt (35:41.496)
Chris, if you'd like to give yourself a bonus point for that, you're welcome to, but I can't willingly give it to you.

Chris (35:46.026)
Oh, I can do it, not just it. I don't need the point. It's a fact or a made. Sorry, go on, Laura.

Matt (35:49.77)
Okay.

Laura Guest (35:55.913)
I just want to do want to clarify that I do think OJ did it. So just so I'm on the right side of history for this one. OK. I guess like a little bit of what Luciana was saying about, OK, but I don't know. OK. It's a cult. OK. It's not a police department or whatever. There's a cult leader that nobody done questioned.

Matt (35:59.78)
Cool.

Laura Guest (36:20.989)
And they just follow him, he's like, get that guy, and they're like, okay, cool, let's go get this fucking teenager who doesn't know what the hell's going on. How could they all possibly know the backstory of why they're chasing after this young child? And yeah, so I think they just like, I think it's like the, yeah. I think it's like playing, it's like ignorance is bliss. My example is like the Holocaust.

Matt (36:40.811)
Thank you.

Matt (36:44.204)
I'm ready.

Laura Guest (36:50.425)
or like the train drivers being like, we were told to, but I don't want to bring that up. Ha ha ha.

Luciano (36:50.877)
Holy shit! Boy, that escalated quickly!

Matt (36:53.079)
train drivers like you were told to, but I'm always gonna go out. Well, okay, so I didn't wanna unpack this. I'm gonna give you a plus two for the cult references, plus two for the hubris to bring up the train drivers from the Holocaust, but I have to give you a minus two because you did not answer the question whatsoever. So overall plus two for you. So that.

Laura Guest (37:02.47)
Oh

Laura Guest (37:10.867)
Oh god.

Matt (37:13.388)
That was interesting. I asked why everybody was stupid and you just went on a rant and then at the end added a line about something.

Laura Guest (37:15.385)
Yes I did!

Laura Guest (37:22.217)
Because they all, it's like a cult, that nobody's questioning anything. They're just going along with what their leader tells them to do.

Luciano (37:25.977)
Laura just answered, why couldn't they catch him? And Laura's answer was, cause they're Nazis. That's basically what it was. Ha ha ha.

Matt (37:33.46)
There you have it, folks. Not too surreal.

Chris (37:40.086)
What have I stepped into?

Matt (37:40.877)
Um

Laura Guest (37:42.865)
both things are true.

Chris (37:45.036)
What are those? Anyways.

Matt (37:47.24)
In other news, I don't remember Chris's answer, so I'm going to give him and Luciano each a point, and we're going to move on from here.

Chris (37:51.822)
What?

Luciano (37:52.881)
Wow.

Chris (37:54.516)
I'll take it!

Matt (37:56.116)
My brain is my brain went places with Laura's answer. It's confusing. Oh, it is now two for Luciana, one for Chris and one for Laura.

Chris (37:59.789)
Ha ha!

Laura Guest (38:03.682)
Can you give us the tally?

Luciano (38:07.293)
Hat to head.

Chris (38:07.74)
in the negative.

Matt (38:09.584)
No one's ever negative, it's very exciting. Next question. Which random spider people thing was the best one? So of all the spider people things you saw in this movie, who was the best?

Laura Guest (38:11.529)
F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F

Luciano (38:26.601)
Who do you want to answer first?

Matt (38:28.376)
You know, Luciano, you go ahead.

Luciano (38:30.361)
Well, I mean, is it really a contest? It's Spider Canada, who was created for this movie, but who I have affectionately named, like I gave her a name because we don't get a name. We only see her with a hockey stick and snow boots and a sick looking Canada goose sort of hood and the number 72 on her back. Her name is Shannon Mackenzie Papineau.

and she is from Ontario, but her family is from Quebec. And she's a really, really big hockey fan, a fanatic, if you will. By far the best spider thing, the best.

Laura Guest (39:14.105)
so many questions for you right now. Like did you did you pause on the thing to see all the spider people and whatever?

Luciano (39:18.297)
So I accidentally paused in one scene where Miles is running away and like he's looking at, and they're all looking at him. And so I paused and I was like, is that a maple leaf? And then I had to kind of, you know, and like she appears two or three more times, but it's really like quick. But it was like, it was so like specific. I'm like, I have to pick this one. I hope they...

Laura Guest (39:32.519)
Yeah.

Luciano (39:44.649)
Because her uniform is designed after the women's hockey team that beat the Soviet Union in 72 on the presentation game.

Laura Guest (39:45.905)
What does the number 72 represent?

Matt (39:51.488)
It's definitely not a women's hockey team that won. Women couldn't play hockey in 72. Get your head out of your ass. Well, you read wrong. It was the men's team.

Laura Guest (39:56.177)
That was definitely not women's. Aww, that's so nice of you to thank that, though.

Luciano (39:57.573)
That's what I read. I'm not sure. Okay. But they wanted to pay homage to the current hockey team, female hockey team.

Laura Guest (40:05.147)
is meant.

Matt (40:09.08)
by making her wear the mail stuff. Anyway, close enough, close enough. I'm gonna go ahead and give Laura plus one points for dealing with the patriarchy.

Luciano (40:12.247)
That's why I thought it was the women's hockey. I don't know. Anyway.

Laura Guest (40:14.417)
by making it into mails.

Laura Guest (40:20.046)
Okay, interesting.

Chris (40:21.91)
Sounds about right.

Luciano (40:22.064)
Fair.

Laura Guest (40:25.973)
Thank you.

Luciano (40:26.409)
Hehehehe

Matt (40:26.531)
Chris, do you want to take a stab?

Chris (40:28.158)
I want to, but after that answer, I need to hear the question again.

Luciano (40:32.777)
Jesus Christ.

Matt (40:34.272)
Why use the patriarchy keeping women down? And you cite explicit examples from this movie.

Chris (40:44.49)
right. So Luciano is the real villain of this movie because he represents he represents the patriarchy in many points of this film. Point one, point one. Okay, what the real question was the real or like, I could just

Laura Guest (40:48.143)
And please use sources.

Luciano (40:49.009)
Jesus Christ, what did I do? Hehehe No, that's Insell Spencer now, not me.

Matt (40:50.233)
the

Laura Guest (40:54.153)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Matt (40:56.584)
Ha ha

Matt (41:01.228)
The real question was who was the best Spider people thing? Like the ones in the background, the non-main characters.

Chris (41:08.722)
Yeah, the best Spider people thing for me was... It was actually, yeah, actually, yeah. It was the first time I saw, like, behind the scenes Spider people doing stuff. So in Mumbatahan, sorry, when they were with... Just after they finished the big save and Miles saved

Inspector Singh or yeah, like on the bridge and then the anomaly happened out like on the lower like levels There the spider society crew flies in and a bunch of spider crew gets off and starts to work on the anomaly one of them is Peter Parker is Peter Parker spider-man from like his last his last story called Peter part, sorry spider-man the end or last stand

Matt (41:41.269)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Chris (42:07.318)
His I recognized his suit and I was like, oh wow. He's still he's still like doing spider work in this way and Like he's on the scene supporting this like the Damage control of this thing. So I was like, wow, it's really nice to see I didn't expect to see to see him there And I just made me feel warm and fuzzy inside. So yeah

Matt (42:29.181)
Okay, Laura.

Laura Guest (42:35.657)
I also have kind of a serious and boring answer, just like Chris. Bye.

Chris (42:36.193)
Hahahaha

Luciano (42:37.801)
Shots fucking fired!

Chris (42:39.606)
Well, it's just as boring, so I'm good.

Matt (42:42.648)
Get Chris the body bag.

Laura Guest (42:50.003)
Um, my favorite was the little baby. I don't know. What was that? Was that me? Okay.

Chris (42:51.11)
May? Mayday? No, I think I accidentally hit my mic.

Luciano (42:53.084)
No.

Matt (42:55.504)
No, that was Chris destroying his microphone with his water bottle.

Luciano (43:03.196)
Yeah.

Matt (43:04.085)
Yes.

Laura Guest (43:04.409)
Is that her name, May?

Luciano (43:08.09)
Nice!

Laura Guest (43:08.541)
Aww, and our baby's name is June. Aww. Anyways, so May, because first of all, the personality is, the hair is stunning. The personality is amazing. But I also do wanna, and her wherewithal is something else. It's something I've never seen in a child that can fit into a, I was gonna call it a hamper, but I meant the carrier. I also wanna give props to her dad, Peter Parker, because

Luciano (43:28.346)
Hahaha!

Laura Guest (43:37.137)
Listen, I carry around my 18 pound daughter in a carrier and I would, I can run for like a second to make her laugh and I, anyways, he was just a magician on his legs with that power, strength, power, carrier, baby power, carrier, power, Spider-Man. Power.

Chris (43:48.405)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (43:52.78)
Say power one more time.

Chris (43:56.552)
Ours was called an Ergo Baby, like the brand was called Ergo Baby. They should sponsor us. And so yeah, yeah. Power Ergo Baby.

Laura Guest (44:03.097)
Yeah, same. Power Air Go Baby, power spider, power.

Chris (44:05.986)
a spider power air go baby. Air go. Anyways, nah, not yet.

Luciano (44:09.801)
This is edging close to ghost power.

Matt (44:14.681)
Oracle Power.

Luciano (44:16.746)
There you go.

Chris (44:17.396)
Baby carrier power!

Matt (44:21.069)
Great answers everybody, I appreciated them all. You're all wrong.

Laura Guest (44:21.937)
Power go.

Chris (44:24.905)
Oh!

Matt (44:27.272)
Yeah.

Laura Guest (44:28.905)
Okay, I get that.

Luciano (44:29.193)
What's the right answer? Yeah, what's the right answer?

Chris (44:30.527)
What was the rid...

Laura Guest (44:32.733)
What's the right answer? Oh, I also like, I kind of also, I also kind of like that car though. The car came out of nowhere. That made me laugh a little bit. Yeah.

Chris (44:35.082)
Yeah. Peter, Peter parked car? Yeah.

Luciano (44:35.129)
Yeah, I like the name. Peter Parks car, yeah. Ha ha ha.

Matt (44:42.464)
It was the horse. And Peter Parker rode him because the horse had a mask. For no reason.

Luciano (44:49.236)
Okay. Not, so not, not the T-Rex then.

Laura Guest (44:50.647)
Oh yeah. Hahaha. Yeah. Why does a horse need a mask?

Matt (44:53.616)
No, not the T-Rex. The T-Rex was also good, but it's too easy.

Luciano (44:54.833)
Okay.

Fair enough.

Laura Guest (44:58.893)
Now to your ex.

Chris (44:59.318)
web slinger.

Matt (45:00.153)
But Laura gets her bonus point for dealing with the patriarchy. And she's just actually she's just gotten another bonus point for having to continue to deal with the patriarchy. It's kind of an ongoing thing.

Luciano (45:09.517)
I think, I think she's going to end up this, this podcast with like a thousand points if that's the case.

Chris (45:09.55)
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Matt (45:14.12)
Well, we're gonna stop it there. The joke has been had, and in order for you to actually have a chance of winning. But the score is three for Laura. Okay, here we go. Dangerous. Wow. Well.

Luciano (45:19.557)
Also you're saying... Are you saying the patriarchy is a joke? Is that what you're saying?

Laura Guest (45:22.849)
Okay.

Laura Guest (45:29.289)
I was just about to say, classic patriarchal power move. The man deciding.

Luciano (45:29.462)
Right? Isn't it?

Matt (45:30.476)
minus one for Luciano, minus one for Laura.

Listen, the rulings are tough. It's two for Laura, one for Chris, one for Luciano. So we're neck and neck. Maybe someone will win this with a negative score. We're not sure. Next question.

Luciano (45:41.039)
Okay.

Laura Guest (45:47.123)
Oh, shit.

Chris (45:47.266)
12.

Luciano (45:48.879)
Hahaha

Matt (45:52.172)
The show, show me what happened power that Gwen employs when she finds spot after she, you know, hangs out with Peter all day. That is a very, very powerful power, given that you can just see what happened to someone's life for as long as you need to. So what would you use it on?

Chris (46:03.446)
Hehehehe

Luciano (46:14.793)
This is when we all get cancelled.

Matt (46:17.568)
Well, be careful. You control your mouth, I think.

Chris (46:17.878)
What?

Luciano (46:21.198)
No I don't, you know me.

Laura Guest (46:21.821)
Huh.

Matt (46:25.252)
Chris, do you wanna, you seem like you wanted to go somewhere.

Chris (46:28.182)
Yeah, if I had that ability, I would like to see...

I'd actually like to see how, how the strongest candidates for like, like this is the nerd, the design nerd in me. I wanna see how the strongest candidates who win, who win jobs at like the highest levels of like staff designer or principal designer. I wanna know how they interviewed. They were like, show me what happened during that interview. How did they answer those questions? I wanna see how they did that so I could be like, whoa, that's what happens? Or maybe it's not that bad at all.

Maybe the reds, it's not that good at all. And it's just like, what? They're normal people. That's the nerd in me.

Matt (47:09.928)
Hey Chris, where's Ketamine Chris? Can we have him back? Or Ketamine Kyle, can we get him back?

Chris (47:13.626)
You told me to tone it down in a with a you told me that's I Also, right out of my ketamine juice

Matt (47:17.943)
I did not.

Luciano (47:18.365)
No, nobody said that at all. Nobody said that at all. No, he's a- He's a- yeah, he's out of alcohol. That's why I-

Matt (47:26.328)
That's what's really happened. If you wanna go get some ketamine while everybody else answers, please feel free. Great.

Chris (47:26.454)
And I'm on water now, so...

Chris (47:32.602)
Okay, don't mind if I do.

Laura Guest (47:39.817)
Chris, you should get like a pull draft thing of like saying Korea. Okay, bye!

Luciano (47:42.501)
He actually went to get more ketamine, like physically did. Yeah. All right.

Matt (47:43.111)
Well, hopefully he's getting it.

Matt (47:49.345)
uh... luciana not laura you answer next

Laura Guest (48:00.558)
I don't- okay, my first thought was obviously to spy on you, but I'm- I'm like, I'm with you all the time, so could not want to know less what happened. What happens with you. Yeah. You know what they say, like-

Matt (48:02.034)
It's not... It... Wow.

Right, yeah, you just be watching the shit you see on a daily basis.

Luciano (48:09.393)
Hahaha!

Luciano (48:13.245)
Just from a third person perspective instead of from a first person perspective.

Laura Guest (48:21.597)
say less, it's like no less. I think I'd want to know something like somebody cuckoo bananas like Elon Musk and just like just to see actually what he does because you know you hear all these things like Elon Musk did XYZ and I was like I just want to know if he's actually like how cuckoo bananas he's being behind the scenes of everything you know?

Matt (48:42.388)
Yeah, that's a interesting answer. Luciano, go ahead.

Luciano (48:49.265)
Ah, why would I use this incredibly powerful tool for? Oh, I know. So I lost my keys a while ago and I think I would use it to find that. Yeah, there you go. That's probably what I, the only thing I would use it for.

Laura Guest (48:51.535)
Ha ha!

Chris (49:04.182)
Wrong.

Laura Guest (49:05.757)
Uh, uh, uh.

Chris (49:09.592)
Do you want some of my ketamine?

Luciano (49:13.233)
No, you wouldn't like me on Ketamine.

Chris (49:13.578)
You need it. Well, I'd like an answer better if you were on Kinep.

Laura Guest (49:14.513)
We are? Yeah.

Luciano (49:17.722)
I thought you were gonna say I don't like you now, but...

Matt (49:20.14)
I mean, if Chris, if you're on, Chris doesn't like that answer on ketamine, I can tell you that it's not gonna get points from me. Due to a lack of better answers, Laura wins that round.

Chris (49:33.142)
I accept that. Sip, sip!

Matt (49:34.484)
Uh, Laura is flying away from you guys at three to one to one. This game is basically over at this point.

Laura Guest (49:37.072)
Yeah.

Chris (49:42.818)
Give it time.

Matt (49:45.704)
Yeah, I guess so. I wanna have a conversation about the construction rules in Mombatin. How construction rules, why construction rules, where construction rules, what construction rules, when construction rules. Because essentially this city is built on top of itself and they have to do all the work to save all those people from the Chemex building falling because...

Laura Guest (49:47.237)
I guess my ketamines just hit faster.

Luciano (49:57.198)
Hahaha

Matt (50:12.652)
there is so much shit underneath the Chemex building that should definitely not be there. So I just want to know a little bit more about why there's a lack of safety in Mubat.

Laura Guest (50:29.513)
I will happily give up two points because I believe I was in the kitchen during like the majority of this scene. So I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

Luciano (50:31.761)
Oh wow.

Matt (50:33.931)
Okay.

Matt (50:37.256)
I'm gonna take your negative two points, but you didn't have to give up any points. You could have just not answered and got a zero, but you volunteered them and I've taken them. Chris, why don't you go next?

Laura Guest (50:45.35)
Hehehe

Chris (50:47.33)
Thank you.

Laura Guest (50:49.369)
I volunteered, it's my...

Matt (50:51.112)
Now we're done. We took your points. You're done for this round. Moving on.

Chris (50:55.468)
Mm-hmm. I think it's because when you only have, so if Mumbata or Mumbata, I don't wanna butcher it, so I feel like I'm getting it wrong. If it exists on an island, much like Manhattan, you only have so much land.

Matt (51:15.128)
Chris, just so you're clear, it is Manhattan, but it's populated with Indian people.

Luciano (51:20.693)
Yeah, but with exactly. Yeah. Yes, Mombatin. It's a pun on Manhattan and smooshed it together. Yes.

Chris (51:24.146)
No, this is a specific name.

Matt (51:26.932)
Yes, they put Mumbai and Manhattan and portmanteau them.

Chris (51:28.727)
Thank you.

Chris (51:33.47)
Okay, thanks, Mombatin, thank you. So.

Matt (51:36.748)
So it's not an island like Manhattan, it is the island of Manhattan.

Luciano (51:39.276)
is

Chris (51:40.174)
Great, great. Well, I've never seen, it was, the art direction was really cool and it just seemed to just, I wish there were that many layers in a hamburger I was eating. But anyways, so you've.

No, I watched. It was wonderful!

Luciano (51:55.469)
Uh, he was in the ketamine. He was in the ketamine watching this.

Laura Guest (51:56.389)
He was also in the kitchen! He was also in the kitchen! He didn't watch this at all!

Chris (52:01.302)
No, I was sober as F. I was putting a child to sleep and watching this. It was great. So no, I was. No, I put the child to sleep and she was sleeping when I was watching. So since there is only so much land, they have to build, and all the land is used up. They've got a layer on top of each other, on top of each other, and then it's like this, it's like this art gallery of Ontario. No, no, the ROM, Royal Ontario Museum.

Matt (52:06.712)
So he wasn't watching, he just admitted it. Ha ha. Okay.

Chris (52:31.766)
Romboid shapes sticking out of stuff because they don't know where else to put stuff. So Like a terrible Jenga waiting to topple over Why not? That's the answer. Why not? I don't that doesn't mean I agree with it, but that's how they approached it

Matt (52:50.934)
Somehow you got to an answer of why were there rules lax? And you said why not? So you got me there Luciano.

Chris (52:56.214)
That's their logic. It was terrible.

Luciano (53:00.797)
So here's the real answer. The building codes in Mombatin are powered by their, no, the power of American xenophobia and racism, because they assume that just because in this reality, like Indians are the ones who were building this, allegedly one of the most expensive and posh,

Chris (53:02.978)
because

Matt (53:03.769)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (53:08.234)
Patriarchy.

Luciano (53:30.705)
pieces of land in the world, just because Indians are building it, they would build it exactly like Mumbai in our world where they built it the way that they did because they didn't have the resources. So they were like, yeah, might as well be fully racist and then just assume that this is how Indians build. They don't care about safety. They're just going to build it this way as well too. We're American. We can be racist. So I think that that's how that's why.

Luciano (53:55.433)
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Laura Guest (53:57.513)
Okay, I'm coming back in. Sorry, I screamed that so loud.

Matt (53:59.916)
Okay.

Laura Guest (54:04.773)
I think, I think that they watched the fifth element and they were like, yeah, so we can't spread out as a city but we can spread up. And they were like, let's fucking do it. And then they just went up and they up and they up and they just couldn't stop and that's it. And somebody please stop me from talking because I don't know how to end this idea at all.

Luciano (54:18.769)
And they modeled their buildings after a Tetris board, is what they did.

Luciano (54:25.49)
You're good. You're good.

Chris (54:26.772)
Mm-hmm

Chris (54:30.21)
Hmm

Matt (54:30.453)
uh... i work respond point because his answer made the most sense

Laura Guest (54:31.542)
Okay, okay. Hehehehe.

Luciano (54:34.61)
Why not? Why not is the answer that made the most sense? Alright.

Chris (54:34.67)
Did it?

Special K juice, do your thing!

Laura Guest (54:39.241)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Luciano (54:40.937)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Chris (54:43.854)
Mmm.

Matt (54:44.449)
Um, my next question.

Chris (54:48.046)
It's a Rattler. Oh, it's a Rattler.

Matt (54:49.668)
It's almost like we're on an audio medium and not a video medium. Hard to say. Hey, a fun question for everybody. How, so in the movie, in Miguel's universe, they change some stuff from our universe to sort of represent that he is different, right? So one of the things I always notice is it's not the NYPD, it's the PDNY, so police department of New York.

Laura Guest (54:50.088)
Why is that one green? What is it? Was that your next question? Oh nice nice.

Luciano (55:16.242)
Right.

Matt (55:17.064)
Another thing they did was Miles was wearing a basketball jersey with the Knicks colors, but it had Brooklyn as the team name. What I want to know is, if you were to represent Toronto in Miles' universe, what things would you change to show that Toronto as we know it is actually in, are they 1051, something like that? 1050 something? Earth 10 whatever. Oh, 1610.

Luciano (55:25.105)
Yeah.

Luciano (55:43.113)
1610.

Matt (55:46.508)
Earth 1610, how would you show Toronto being different?

Chris (55:49.39)
Ronald B. Sure.

Laura Guest (55:54.057)
I would like to go first.

Laura Guest (55:58.437)
Chris doesn't understand and he needs some direction. I think that in order to show like a small difference in Toronto, to show that it's a different Toronto, Toronto would be that there was actually housing for homeless people, respect for Indigenous people, and there wouldn't... and there wouldn't be new lineups at every new goddamn restaurant that ever opened.

Luciano (56:14.717)
No, that's too incredible. No, I'm sorry.

Luciano (56:23.271)
There's a limit to how much I'm willing to stretch my suspension of disbelief.

Laura Guest (56:28.05)
Thank you.

Matt (56:33.265)
Luciano.

Luciano (56:34.945)
Um, I would do like small changes. Like it wouldn't be the TTC. It would be the, the TCT, um, the Toronto commission of transport or transit in this case, um, and then, and now I'm, I'm getting to it and it wouldn't be the maple leaves, it would be the maple syrups. Um, the

Laura Guest (56:35.747)
I understand.

Matt (56:43.32)
And what does that stand for?

Matt (56:48.414)
All right. Yeah.

Laura Guest (56:54.793)
That is such like a gentle little change, like... .. Okay, okay.

Chris (57:04.45)
AHHHH

Luciano (57:04.597)
I like write it correctly. Okay, okay. And it wouldn't be the Toronto Argonauts. It would be the Toronto Cosmonauts. And what else? The province wouldn't be called Ontario. It would be called Lothario. I don't know stuff like that. Lothario. Yeah, it would be called Tecumseh. It would be not, it wouldn't be Toronto.

Laura Guest (57:06.417)
No, it'd be the maple leaves. Like they'd actually got it right. Yeah.

Matt (57:24.553)
Arterium.

Laura Guest (57:29.626)
be called to Toronto.

Luciano (57:34.737)
There. Yeah. And also we would be the French. There, not Quebec.

Laura Guest (57:34.889)
That's a real indigenous name.

Matt (57:38.468)
Chris?

Laura Guest (57:40.706)
There you go.

Matt (57:42.183)
Well, not you. You're still a foreign devil.

Luciano (57:44.141)
What do you mean not me? Oh my god. I cannot.

Laura Guest (57:52.263)
Luciano, can you do a French accent?

Luciano (57:53.789)
You're welcome. Did I prove it well that I can't?

Laura Guest (57:56.813)
Yeah. Thank you.

Matt (57:58.508)
Chris, do you understand what's happening here?

Chris (58:01.098)
No.

Luciano (58:03.197)
Get him in Joe's back!

Chris (58:05.386)
I don't understand. It sounds like you want me to ju- to ju- to juxtapose and paste what would happen if Toronto was in New Haven, New York, PDP, PCP. Is that accurate?

Laura Guest (58:10.249)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Luciano (58:21.03)
You're on PCP.

Yeah.

Laura Guest (58:25.053)
I hate this so much, like a large amount of hate towards this. But yes.

Chris (58:26.702)
But guess what?

is okay well then let me start from the beginning all over again everything everybody else said

Matt (58:34.806)
Oh god.

Luciano (58:35.652)
Hahaha!

Luciano (58:39.306)
Instead of thoughts and prayers, it's thoughts and hatred that I'm projecting here.

Laura Guest (58:41.32)
hahahaha

Chris (58:42.882)
Thoughts and hatred, no, it's more awkwardness, anxiety, and sips of Tim Horton's iced tea ice caps.

Matt (58:53.164)
I'm going to go ahead and assume Chris is not answering this question and move us on.

Luciano (58:56.368)
hahahaha

Chris (58:56.994)
Thank you.

Laura Guest (59:02.217)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Matt (59:03.218)
And I'm going to have to go.

Chris (59:05.499)
Finally, you see through the veil of my bravado.

Matt (59:10.612)
I'm going to have to give Laura the point. She actually didn't just rip off what the movie did and answer it. So it's two for Laura, two for Chris, one for Luciano. Very, very exciting. We have no idea. What is next? Oh, hey.

Luciano (59:22.865)
That sounds about right.

Chris (59:23.01)
How did I end up at two and tying? Ha ha ha. Oh.

Laura Guest (59:32.195)
And dropping.

Matt (59:35.888)
Miguel O'Hara. Not just Miguel O'Hara, let's add all the main characters. Miguel O'Hara, Miles Morales, Gwen Stacy, both Orange George Stacy.

Luciano (59:49.073)
What's the name of the British one?

Chris (59:51.374)
Kobe Brown. Bugsy? Where do you get Bugsy from? BOOOOOO!

Matt (59:52.012)
Bugssy.

Luciano (59:52.913)
Why would you... BUDDHIST MAN! BUDDHIST MAN!

Matt (01:00:00.897)
Bugsie Brown, what should these people need therapy the most?

Luciano (01:00:07.214)
Oh my god.

Chris (01:00:10.87)
I would say, okay, may I go first?

Matt (01:00:14.101)
You may.

Chris (01:00:14.894)
Thank you. I would say it's Miguel. Like it sounds like he's tried at least twice to, you know, have a wonderful life in a dimension not his own. And then watched it all come tumbling down. One of them, including like the extinction of his daughter, of his like non-daughter, but like sort of daughter. Oh my God. What like?

What must that do to a person who survives that?

Matt (01:00:47.328)
Well, I mean, we kind of see what it does. It makes them a rage machine.

Chris (01:00:50.395)
Yeah!

Luciano (01:00:52.082)
A massive dick is what it makes him.

Matt (01:00:53.986)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (01:00:55.678)
I get it and I feel for him. Wow. That's my vote Miguel.

Matt (01:01:00.564)
Okay. Laura

Luciano (01:01:06.153)
He doesn't want to play anymore.

Matt (01:01:06.604)
Well, that's not gonna work.

Chris (01:01:11.75)
Oh

Matt (01:01:12.161)
just make a note.

Luciano (01:01:14.509)
I love that you went Laura and she's just like, nope. Oh, there she is.

Chris (01:01:19.038)
Oh

Matt (01:01:21.644)
Oh hey.

Luciano (01:01:22.845)
Ehhhhhhhhh

Chris (01:01:23.054)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Laura Guest (01:01:23.328)
Okay, I'm back baby.

Matt (01:01:24.92)
Did you drop for any specific thing or?

Laura Guest (01:01:27.221)
Sorry.

Luciano (01:01:29.976)
I just saw them. I saw them.

Laura Guest (01:01:30.657)
Did you not see my messages? What's the point of having the chat if you're not gonna look? Thank you, Luciano.

Matt (01:01:32.216)
No, they don't. There's nothing that really shows up there. Let's see what we got. I'm going to refresh. What is that? Oh, interesting.

Chris (01:01:36.226)
Yeah

Chris (01:01:39.9)
I can't hear nothing, I can't see nothing, light is nothing, blackness.

Luciano (01:01:43.433)
Blacknessness. I love as a blackness. I'm gonna refresh This is like a microcosm of like life

Chris (01:01:49.95)
Oh no.

Laura Guest (01:01:51.322)
I'm sorry.

Chris (01:01:55.382)
Oh man, shoot. Perfect.

Matt (01:01:56.715)
Um, where, where did you, where did you drop off? No, but what did you hear last?

Laura Guest (01:01:58.895)
Those are all the tweets you'll ever need to see.

I don't know, all your screens went black. Oh, I didn't, hold on, hold on, hold on. Give me a second, I've had some ketamine. Matt asked, okay, you asked the question. What was the question again?

Chris (01:02:04.13)
Damn!

Luciano (01:02:04.145)
But what was the last time you remember?

Luciano (01:02:10.097)
Hahaha!

Chris (01:02:10.158)
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Luciano (01:02:15.773)
Who needs therapy the most?

Chris (01:02:18.35)
of all of them. Okay.

Laura Guest (01:02:20.368)
Oh, I did not hear that. Okay, I heard you name like all the people and then I think that was it.

Matt (01:02:20.502)
Okay, well.

It's fine. It's fine. It's okay. Because what basically what happened is I threw it to you and you dropped off. So the question is who needs therapy the most out of the main characters? Those who were listening? Chris answered

Chris (01:02:28.171)
Hehehe

Laura Guest (01:02:36.182)
I heard you down the hall say, I heard you down the hall be like, Laura? And I was like, oh no, blackness.

Luciano (01:02:40.101)
Hahaha

Matt (01:02:40.16)
Yeah, so Chris picked Miguel and we riffed on Miguel's rage issues a bit and then I threw it to you. So, hey, Laura, we're technically not recording. It's recording, but I'm going to chop everything up to when I say Laura. And then you can jump in with, oh my God, Miguel needs talk to therapy.

Laura Guest (01:02:48.108)
Oh my god, he needs so much therapy. Yeah.

Laura Guest (01:02:56.77)
Yeah, okay, fair. Okay.

Laura Guest (01:03:02.651)
Okay, okay, okay.

Matt (01:03:04.248)
Go ahead.

Laura Guest (01:03:09.132)
Yeah, I think like, Miguel just needs so much therapy.

Chris (01:03:15.63)
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Laura Guest (01:03:15.76)
like so much therapy. So I agree with Chris obviously but I also think I'm gonna circle around and come back to what I believe her name is Jessica? Is it just Jessica? I there's just something about her that I'm just like you are a pregnant lady why don't you have empathy for this child girl who is your mentee and like you're not questioning

Luciano (01:03:25.913)
Yes, yeah, Jessica Drew.

Chris (01:03:26.679)
Yeah, Jessica Drew.

Chris (01:03:31.256)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (01:03:34.67)
Mm-hmm.

Hmm

Laura Guest (01:03:43.936)
the crazy guy who stands there watching videos of him and his daughter directing everybody and yeah and just being mean to people. She's like she's not very positive this Jessica lady you know she comes in and you're like oh she's snarky and that's cool she's pregnant I was like at first I was like oh sick like diversity and bodies in this in this film that's awesome and then and then you know just.

Chris (01:03:48.59)
Mmm. Mmm!

Chris (01:04:10.058)
And then she was like, it's almost like she was the perfect number two or number one to Miguel's cap in charge kind of thing.

Luciano (01:04:10.847)
Hahaha!

Laura Guest (01:04:23.38)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Luciano (01:04:25.358)
One more, one more, one more.

Matt (01:04:25.705)
You didn't appreciate Miguel's Latin Irish diversity?

Chris (01:04:28.526)
Uh.

Laura Guest (01:04:29.944)
Yeah.

Chris (01:04:32.574)
No, I meant to his evilness or misguidedness.

Laura Guest (01:04:35.23)
You know what?

I have to say I didn't, I did appreciate his Latin Irish diversity as a Italian Irish diverse person. Anyways.

Luciano (01:04:48.26)
I'm Italian!

Matt (01:04:52.104)
Okay?

Laura Guest (01:04:57.976)
Can we move on? Is this where the host steps in and tells me to stop talking? Or should I... What's the next up here? Did you just fucking call me sweetie? I'm sorry, excuse me, gentleman.

Chris (01:04:58.635)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:05:02.685)
We don't do that here.

Matt (01:05:04.88)
I would never do that. I would never do that to you, sweetie.

Chris (01:05:05.718)
We just let it roll. We just let it roll until the wheels fall off.

Luciano (01:05:09.157)
Jesus.

He did. Yeah, he did.

Matt (01:05:12.796)
Yeah.

Chris (01:05:18.302)
Mmm. This is so hot! This is- wait, wait. I- maybe I misinterpreted. This sounds like... a patronizing patriarchy tone.

Matt (01:05:21.462)
Yeah

Laura Guest (01:05:25.465)
Mmm!

Matt (01:05:30.412)
Hard to say. Luciano.

Luciano (01:05:31.219)
Uh oh.

Laura Guest (01:05:35.488)
Do I get three points for the patriarchy of my own husband? Or no?

Chris (01:05:37.41)
For it? I thought against it, but okay.

Luciano (01:05:38.189)
I mean, it's the husband giving the points. I don't know what's gonna happen.

Matt (01:05:38.266)
No.

Laura Guest (01:05:43.001)
You know what I mean.

Luciano (01:05:46.145)
Um, so I'm going to, I'm going to sort of take a little bit of a tangent here and say that I don't give a shit who you think the main characters are. I'm going to say the person who needs the most therapy here is Spiderbite. Because the small glimpse that we got from her actual life, she was vegetating on a computer, hearing her parents argue with each other so much.

Laura Guest (01:05:47.372)
We'll see. Only time will tell.

Matt (01:05:47.442)
No paycheck here.

Luciano (01:06:13.309)
that she would rather live in an online world rather than deal with her own life. And that's escapism. And so, yeah, I think like Miguel needs, I don't think, yeah, I think honestly, Miguel is beyond therapy, but he does need therapy. But I think Spiderbite needs more. Like she can use more.

Laura Guest (01:06:22.22)
That is sad.

Laura Guest (01:06:32.94)
Do you think, am I allowed to ask questions?

Luciano (01:06:34.181)
Yeah, sure. Who gives a shit about math once?

Laura Guest (01:06:38.004)
You know about, yeah, fuck you. Do you think that there's like a therapist for superheroes? You know like how there's like physiotherapists and like sports therapists? Do you think there's gotta be some who like have that niche for superheroes, right? Cause they need it, they all do. Okay, don't say Harley Quinn.

Matt (01:06:40.766)
and therapist, and superhero.

Chris (01:06:47.159)
Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Luciano (01:06:52.571)
Yeah.

Chris (01:06:53.866)
Yes? Yes, there is. There's two of them.

Luciano (01:06:56.628)
Oh yeah, they're all f- they're all fucked in the head.

Chris (01:07:00.65)
No, one is the sp-

Luciano (01:07:01.309)
That's different canon.

Matt (01:07:03.584)
She was bad at her job.

Luciano (01:07:04.762)
Yes, she was.

Chris (01:07:06.219)
I would not give her any stars on Yelp. One is in the movie when they were doing the chase scene. That's one, that's an easy one. Number two, an actual one is from the Hulk neighborhood and his name is Doc Samson and he's, yeah. Yeah.

Laura Guest (01:07:07.804)
Yeah.

Matt (01:07:13.729)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (01:07:20.397)
Oh, that's right. Yeah. He is good at his job, actually.

Chris (01:07:25.421)
Yeah.

Matt (01:07:26.852)
To you, others too.

Luciano (01:07:28.017)
There's, I think Beast does a little bit of that, right? Yeah. Harry McCoy, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I agree with you, Laura. It's sorely needed because they're all fucked up in the head. All of them. Yeah. It would be fun.

Chris (01:07:31.542)
Beast Henry McCoy might do.

Laura Guest (01:07:32.218)
Okay, two for the thousands of superheroes.

Laura Guest (01:07:43.724)
Well, it all comes from trauma. Every single backstory is traumatic. So anyways, all right, let's move on. Moving on.

Matt (01:07:46.924)
That's part of the canon, we can't change that. Everybody gets a point, because everybody in that movie needs therapy, there's no wrong answer.

Chris (01:07:49.576)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:07:54.049)
That's fair. I was going to say, can you imagine a hero whose power comes from the, like, his superpowers come from the power of good parenting? Nobody wants to watch that.

Chris (01:07:54.316)
No.

Matt (01:08:03.286)
Mm. Boring.

Chris (01:08:08.104)
What would those powers be? His powers come from good parenting?

Laura Guest (01:08:08.401)
Nobody thinks they're a good parent is the problem.

Luciano (01:08:13.061)
Yeah, yeah.

Matt (01:08:13.485)
Uh, no, I asked the questions here.

Laura Guest (01:08:14.093)
Yeah.

Chris (01:08:16.678)
Yeah, but goddamn, how does that even compute?

Matt (01:08:19.092)
Speaking of parents, who would win in a fight? Captain Stacy or Captain Morales?

Luciano (01:08:30.638)
Oh, that is a tough one.

Chris (01:08:31.118)
Bye.

Laura Guest (01:08:32.556)
Hmm.

Chris (01:08:35.08)
I won?

Laura Guest (01:08:36.52)
My racist answer is...

Luciano (01:08:37.426)
Oh no. Ha ha!

Matt (01:08:39.677)
Not a great way to start.

Laura Guest (01:08:41.668)
Is Captain... Is Captain Stacy would shoot Captain Morales on sight? Um... So...

Luciano (01:08:46.205)
Oh no.

Matt (01:08:46.572)
Hehehehehe

Laura Guest (01:08:54.4)
But are you talking like physically, morally, ethically, romantically? Romantic fights? Yeah.

Matt (01:08:55.481)
I don't I didn't give any You can pick where you want to go with the answer There's no like I didn't say it has to be murder or like a fistfight Whatever kind of fight could be a domestic dispute. Whatever

Chris (01:08:57.783)
sexually.

Luciano (01:09:09.278)
It also doesn't have to be racist, I don't think.

Matt (01:09:12.444)
No, I mean, we prefer not to, but...

Laura Guest (01:09:14.86)
Yeah, I'd like that to not be my official answer, if that's okay. I'm just gonna mute myself and I'm gonna think on this. So you gentlemen take the lead. Goodbye.

Chris (01:09:21.698)
Mmm.

Matt (01:09:23.497)
Luciano, why don't you make this less racist?

Luciano (01:09:28.357)
I mean, I'll try. So I think...

Matt (01:09:30.435)
Okay.

Chris (01:09:33.166)
dry.

Luciano (01:09:35.976)
Um, you'd be surprised. Uh, I think that it would be Captain Morales just because he, so he was, he just became captain. So he was closer to the streets. So he had more physical activity. I think he's younger too. He seems younger and he was like, before becoming a cop, he was like, he had a hard life.

Laura Guest (01:09:37.16)
It can't be that hard.

Chris (01:09:38.478)
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Luciano (01:10:02.309)
and he had to defend himself. So I think if it came to blows, like he is just a better fighter overall. And also I think Captain Stacy would be scared of the black man. So he would whimper and not, yeah. Oh, did I not make it less racist? Dammit. Ha ha ha.

Chris (01:10:21.294)
Haaaaaaa Haaaaaa

Laura Guest (01:10:25.176)
I just want to clarify that I did not... like he came up with that on his own.

Chris (01:10:30.126)
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Luciano (01:10:30.469)
No, I'm just taking a cue from Laura.

Matt (01:10:33.428)
I'm very disappointed that somehow the not white people or the white people on this episode were racist and now we have to turn to.

Chris (01:10:33.611)
No!

Luciano (01:10:41.781)
No! Captain Stacy was racist. Not us.

Matt (01:10:47.064)
Chris, I'm sorry. Chris gets two bonus points for trauma induced by his co-host.

Laura Guest (01:10:47.521)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:10:56.002)
I'll allow it. You can take one of my points and give it to him. It makes sense.

Laura Guest (01:10:56.523)
Yeah.

Chris (01:10:59.498)
It's a me! Racism! Anyways...

Laura Guest (01:11:00.844)
I think that's fair.

Luciano (01:11:01.929)
Oh, there you go. I withdraw my offer.

Chris (01:11:04.842)
There you go.

Laura Guest (01:11:05.694)
haha

As an Italian, I do not like that.

Luciano (01:11:09.381)
Hahaha!

Chris (01:11:10.73)
That was my Super Mario impression. I apologize.

Chris (01:11:16.726)
That was racist Super Mario. Anyways, I'm kind of.

Laura Guest (01:11:16.896)
Yeah, thank you. Of course, I'm sorry.

Luciano (01:11:21.006)
Is there a non-racist Super Mario? No, I don't think so.

Chris (01:11:24.462)
Probably. I think your answers are good, but I'm actually more worried and troubled by Captain Stacy. It looks like the Mrs., like his wife and Gwen's mom, are gone. Did she die or did she leave?

Luciano (01:11:28.727)
Oh no. Oh no.

Laura Guest (01:11:29.506)
My uncle Giuseppe.

Chris (01:11:49.346)
So I feel like, but she's not there. It doesn't feel like she's there at all. It's just the father and Gwen. So I, right. That's what I think. And so, so that, I feel like that's, that like, that's pent up, pent up grief over the, like the, the dissolution of like the marriage and the breaking, the breaking apart of the family. So that's anger.

Luciano (01:11:49.481)
Did they even? I don't think they clarify, yeah.

Matt (01:11:49.598)
I don't believe they specify.

Laura Guest (01:11:50.184)
I was going to ask that too actually.

Luciano (01:11:54.777)
Yeah.

Matt (01:11:57.044)
If I had to guess, she left.

Luciano (01:11:59.265)
Yeah, and I would not blame her in the least.

Chris (01:12:19.186)
sitting inside, cocked in fist one and two. And so if it came to blows, I would think it would get a lot darker and no guns allowed. I think it would be very difficult to hold Stacey back. Like there's something dark going on in there. Like, and that's why exactly, like he fulfilled, wait, he fulfilled the prophecy that Gwen feared the most. It's because he's also got some dark shit going on that needs to be sorted out. I'm worried about that.

Luciano (01:12:34.1)
So wait, I have

Luciano (01:12:46.481)
So what you're saying is if they f-

Matt (01:12:47.224)
So something angry Irish cop.

Luciano (01:12:50.31)
Yeah.

Chris (01:12:50.742)
I didn't say angry Irish. I said angry cock. No, my answer stands. That was my answer. You don't get to put your stuff in my answer.

Luciano (01:12:53.221)
But you did not, didn't, you didn't not say it.

Laura Guest (01:12:56.406)
He didn't.

Luciano (01:12:58.781)
So wait, I have a question. So what you're saying is if they came to blows, what would happen is Captain Stacy would pummel Captain Morales saying, how dare you have a happy family? You don't deserve a happy family. Oh no. Okay. Like.

Chris (01:13:10.622)
Yeah, actually, that's what I was thinking. He would, that's exactly, he'd be, it would set him further. It would, it would, ugh.

Laura Guest (01:13:14.662)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:13:18.514)
I see.

Laura Guest (01:13:22.908)
No, I agree because I think that Captain Morales has like a moral compass like between him and his wife and he's like more emotionally stable. So like Captain Stacy would be like, let's fucking go bro. And Captain Morales would be like, OK, but like we don't we don't have to go, bro. We can just like, you know, we're both cops. Let's chill. Yeah.

Chris (01:13:32.906)
Nothing left to lose.

Chris (01:13:37.811)
Hug it out.

Luciano (01:13:40.221)
and then Captain Stacy would shoot him. Okay, that makes sense.

Chris (01:13:42.158)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Matt (01:13:48.412)
I'm gonna give Chris the point because Laura agree with him. So that means two points. Coming down to the wire here, Chris has taken a commanding lead, six points. Laura has three. Luciano has two. But I say we have... I mean, I already get to see them anyway. So look at that. Yeah.

Chris (01:13:54.774)
Thank you.

Laura Guest (01:13:55.394)
Yeah. Do it.

Chris (01:14:01.632)
Ow!

What? Why?

Laura Guest (01:14:10.716)
What if I show you a boob?

Luciano (01:14:14.826)
Hahaha!

Laura Guest (01:14:16.333)
Wow. You're calling me old and busted?

Chris (01:14:18.566)
What's happening?

Matt (01:14:18.924)
No, what? Wow, I would never say that. No, minus 50 DKP. But to make this spicy, the next two questions are gonna be worth three points each. So if you can stop Chris from getting one of these two questions, you could win. Mostly Luciano needs to try the hardest.

Luciano (01:14:20.339)
What if I showed you a little boob? Would that help? Okay, just checking. Ha ha ha!

Laura Guest (01:14:26.503)
I'm sorry.

Chris (01:14:33.216)
Oh my.

Chris (01:14:42.807)
Just don't use race. Stop channeling the powers of racism, Luciano, as a patriarchy.

Luciano (01:14:47.925)
I'm not.

Matt (01:14:47.945)
I mean that would be a great start.

Laura Guest (01:14:51.196)
Yeah, Luciano!

Matt (01:14:57.412)
Um, which spider thing, spider people thing, trusts cops the least?

Chris (01:15:10.08)
Yeah Hobie hubie hobie hubie hubris Spider punk buncy bro. That's terrible. But yeah, my answer is spider punk. This is Yeah

Luciano (01:15:11.101)
Hobie. Oh, he doesn't know who Hobie is though.

Luciano (01:15:17.391)
Bugsy Brown.

Chris (01:15:27.603)
Oh!

Laura Guest (01:15:27.88)
My answer is the horse.

Matt (01:15:28.868)
Can you show your work?

Luciano (01:15:29.471)
Ooh, intriguing!

Laura Guest (01:15:31.788)
Because the horse, you want me to show my work?

Matt (01:15:35.387)
Yeah, I need you to give evidence as to why, because...

Laura Guest (01:15:36.66)
or my boob. Up to the host.

Matt (01:15:40.74)
I'm sorry, I have to pick the reason why our answer is accurate.

Laura Guest (01:15:47.384)
No, I said, no, okay, I tried to make a joke. Okay, so my choice is the horse because the horse is around cops all the time, right? Like cop horses, horse cops. So we're talking about the Spider-Man horse, right? And so he goes into the stables and he's like, yo, what's up, what's up, what's going on? Tell me what the deal is with all these cops and why they're not stopping villains and Spider-Man is. And...

Yeah, so he hears all the bad things that cops say when they think they're just around their horses.

That answer could not have gone worse, I think, if I had actually planned it. It started out so well and it felt so strongly and then it got worse. Ha ha

Luciano (01:16:29.63)
It did, I was like, oh, she's onto something that went in the weird direction.

Matt (01:16:36.472)
Would you say you would give yourself points for that answer?

Laura Guest (01:16:44.81)
I'd give myself a half a point for that answer, yes.

Matt (01:16:48.42)
Okay, okay. Okay, I appreciate the honesty. So what's gonna happen here is Luciano and Chris are gonna split to three points because both answered the same. And, what are you talking about? Well, you say QB, you said, yeah, definitely. I don't know what.

Laura Guest (01:16:52.812)
Okay.

Luciano (01:16:59.177)
I was gonna give another answer, but I'll take it. I was gonna give another answer.

Luciano (01:17:07.689)
Because that's the boring answer.

Luciano (01:17:12.628)
I've given up. It's QB.

Laura Guest (01:17:13.044)
It's whole beet cheese.

Chris (01:17:14.818)
I don't think he gets those points anymore. So that's something. Mm.

Luciano (01:17:18.411)
Um, yeah.

Matt (01:17:18.836)
What? No, it's fine. Lucille gets 1.5. Chris gets 1.5. Laura gets 0.5.

Laura Guest (01:17:30.452)
Oh, if we can dictate our own points.

Luciano (01:17:30.773)
I want one million points.

Chris (01:17:33.554)
It's such a bullshit. It's just a bullshit tactic. Well, we had Halloween because we wanted to take our kid out. We put the bucket of candy there and like trusting the new neighborhood and wrote, take as much as you think you deserve. We didn't even leave the house. We put it there in the sky. I opened the door to take my daughter out. The bucket was fucking empty. Oh, the fuck?

Matt (01:17:34.442)
No.

Laura Guest (01:17:36.43)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:17:56.841)
Chris, buddy, welcome back to Toronto. Ha ha ha.

Matt (01:17:56.861)
Mm-hmm

Chris (01:18:00.422)
Well, come indeed. I deserve it all, bitch. And that's what happened.

Laura Guest (01:18:11.17)
In the Toronto alternate universe his bucket would still be full.

Luciano (01:18:12.453)
Yeah? No, they would have stolen the bucket and left the candy.

Chris (01:18:12.491)
You know.

Chris (01:18:19.236)
Oh, I like that pocket anyways

Laura Guest (01:18:20.593)
Yeah.

Matt (01:18:22.412)
Are you all ready for the last question? Anybody can win probably. No, only you, but don't tell the other two.

Chris (01:18:24.148)
Are we ready?

Anybody, even me.

Luciano (01:18:28.957)
I, is that how math works?

Laura Guest (01:18:28.966)
Oh yeah.

Chris (01:18:34.86)
No!

Luciano (01:18:35.865)
I mean, Chris can still get like minus 10 points.

Matt (01:18:38.58)
He could, yeah, so that's, but he just has to say nothing from here on out and he can win. I want to know how many spider people thinks he died in chasing Miles Morales.

Chris (01:18:40.498)
Whoa, what kind of?

Luciano (01:18:53.478)
Not enough.

Laura Guest (01:18:54.892)
Too many. Not enough? Yeah.

Chris (01:18:56.534)
Damn! They chose violence in that answer. Not enough?

Luciano (01:18:58.845)
Bunch of- bunch of fucking adult bullies.

Matt (01:19:00.693)
Okay, we need to be specific here. Luciano, do you wanna answer first? We're gonna go in the score order. So Luciano, you have the lowest score. So your answer.

Luciano (01:19:05.005)
Numbers? Sure.

Sure. So are you looking for actual numbers or can I bullshit this?

Matt (01:19:14.581)
I'm looking for an actual answer. There are no rules to this game. As you know, I ask a question, you interpret it how you will.

Luciano (01:19:19.713)
Okay, so I'm gonna stick with my answer of not enough because they're all fucking adult bullies trying to get to a kid who just wanted to be part of the group. So however many died, I hope the fucking T-Rex died, I hope the fucking horse died, I hope the fucking car died, I hope they have to restart the fucking Spider Society. Now how many do I think actually did die? Given that scene, I'm pretty sure the T-Rex actually did die, because he-

Plymouthed really far down. I don't know if the webs can hold him up like he's a fucking Yeah, exactly. How do you shoot web with like the tiny turn us or arms? Pretty sure the car can shoot webs either Or I don't know. Does it have like a steel cable in front of it? That's what it shoots Okay, I think

Matt (01:19:54.389)
Yeah.

Matt (01:19:58.082)
Okay.

Matt (01:20:06.152)
Nah, he just shoots him out of his exhaust pipe.

Laura Guest (01:20:14.541)
Hmm.

Luciano (01:20:16.769)
and 47 and a half spider things died overall 47 and a half

Matt (01:20:20.58)
347 and a half, okay. That would leave next to be Laura.

Luciano (01:20:31.926)
Always a solid answer.

Laura Guest (01:20:32.864)
42.

Matt (01:20:33.94)
Nice. Got him. Okay. Chris.

Chris (01:20:39.446)
I don't think any of them died. Their spider abilities, their spider abilities and spider sense and web shooting ability and agility. I don't think any of them died. Like they're hard to kill. They're really hard to kill. Zero.

Laura Guest (01:21:03.843)
Or do you think that they all, you know like how Miguel O-Omera, what's his name? Ohana-man? Oh-men-ah? Oh-hera?

Chris (01:21:06.751)
O'Hara.

Luciano (01:21:07.193)
Omera. He yell Omera.

Matt (01:21:07.537)
Oh, O'Hara. Oh, Ohana? What?

Chris (01:21:10.11)
I think she just killed her own chances of securing a point.

Laura Guest (01:21:17.136)
No! Listen, listen, listen! You know how Miguel O'Hara, he was able to like, switch him out for like a different, his own self so he could live in that world? Maybe that's what all the ones who died during the chase did, they all just like, switched themselves out. Messing up all sorts of candidate events. I'm just asking questions. I'm just asking questions.

Chris (01:21:39.851)
If that happened...

Luciano (01:21:41.094)
They switched themselves out. So they died and then when they died they replaced themselves is what you're saying. Oh, okay. No further questions, your honor.

Chris (01:21:43.486)
If that happened, that sounds like a-

Laura Guest (01:21:47.252)
Yeah, that's what my girl, Her, did!

Chris (01:21:49.798)
If that happened, that would have been the cataclysm event. That would have been, oh my gosh. Three, part.

Laura Guest (01:21:52.2)
Yes, yes, that. That. Yeah, who says it wasn't? There's a part two to the movie. Is there not?

Luciano (01:21:59.677)
This is part two.

Matt (01:21:59.926)
Safely is part three.

Laura Guest (01:22:05.109)
Oh, you're telling me a part three. I don't know what I'm talking about anymore.

Matt (01:22:07.585)
Okay, um, Jay Jonah, Larson.

Luciano (01:22:08.115)
None of us do, so that's fine.

Chris (01:22:10.275)
It was awesome. This is awesome. G G. Yeah, GGL

Matt (01:22:16.288)
Um, okay. Uh, those are all interesting answers. Um, see here, I'm going to award, uh, zero points to Chris because he's a coward, I'm going to award, um, I'm going to award, I'm going to award, um, three points to the question.

Chris (01:22:30.434)
Nah, bro, I'm gonna do my own thing every time.

Luciano (01:22:35.255)
He's gonna have his own point.

Laura Guest (01:22:40.16)
Slurp, slurp.

Matt (01:22:43.14)
I'm going to split it up to 2 points for Laura and 1 point for Luciano. Because I live with Laura.

Luciano (01:22:50.433)
I have to sleep next to her and I don't want to wake up murdered. Because then you're going to have to switch yourself in the reality and that's going to be a whole mess.

Matt (01:22:55.303)
It's not safe sometimes in here.

Matt (01:23:00.534)
That, um, yeah.

Laura Guest (01:23:02.828)
Yeah, and I will know, Matthew Conker, I will know.

Luciano (01:23:04.266)
Ooh, full name. Full name!

Matt (01:23:04.472)
Wow, you just said my whole name on the, gonna have to bleep that out. Don't want my governmental on the podcast. Wow.

Chris (01:23:13.379)
Oh, oh, oh.

Laura Guest (01:23:14.104)
Oh wow, Chris. Oh wow. Now you know how we feel. Tough your answers.

Matt (01:23:16.552)
Yeah. Wow.

Luciano (01:23:17.478)
Yeah, I fell asleep throughout his answer, honestly.

Chris (01:23:19.042)
Y'all still talkin'? Time to tally up these points, dammit! Who winnin'? Who won the brand new car? Who won the Sea-Doo?

Laura Guest (01:23:25.996)
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Matt (01:23:26.76)
Minus one point for your insolence and your sass.

Luciano (01:23:29.443)
Hahahaha!

Matt (01:23:34.84)
Final point total. Lin last place with a whopping four and a half points over 13 questions. Luciano.

Laura Guest (01:23:35.116)
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Chris (01:23:38.638)
BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E E E E E E E

Luciano (01:23:45.166)
Yes! Among all the losers, I'm the first.

Laura Guest (01:23:45.179)
QB!

Laura Guest (01:23:50.604)
Woop! Yeah, you are.

Matt (01:23:50.816)
in second place amassing 5.5 points. Laura which means our grand winner is Chris with 6.5 whole points. Tell him what he's won Luciano.

Chris (01:24:03.466)
I want something and it matters. Ah!

Luciano (01:24:05.129)
We were... You win. You win the right to an eternal supply of ketamine juice to be consumed while recording this podcast.

Chris (01:24:17.998)
Are you gonna bring it to my house?

Luciano (01:24:20.241)
No, bitch. What? You think I'm made of money?

Laura Guest (01:24:20.492)
I got lucky.

Chris (01:24:22.551)
What? What the fu-

Matt (01:24:23.974)
the

Luciano (01:24:25.277)
Yeah

Luciano (01:24:29.133)
No, I'm not, I'm not, I would be his bitch if I brought it. In this case, I'm just, yeah, but you met me, I'm not nice.

Chris (01:24:29.386)
Yeah!

Laura Guest (01:24:29.696)
Luciano, I think in this case you're his bitch.

Chris (01:24:34.403)
I was asking nicely if you would bring it to me, but...

Laura Guest (01:24:38.412)
Well, you're the loser. You have to bring the winner something.

Matt (01:24:41.982)
Um...

Luciano (01:24:42.546)
Fuck both of you!

Chris (01:24:44.286)
I have not won anything tonight! I won a loss!

Laura Guest (01:24:44.88)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:24:48.978)
Uhhhhhh

Matt (01:24:49.621)
Now you.

The thing you won was Luciano's. What was it? What did you call it Luciano? Your... I don't know if you want to lack, but... Well, congratulations, Chris. You...

Laura Guest (01:24:56.65)
Hehehehe

Luciano (01:24:58.517)
Lack of contempt. It was the lack of contempt. He didn't win that. No, he did not. You have won the exact same amount of contempt I had before there.

Laura Guest (01:25:00.849)
Lack of contempt. No, yeah.

Chris (01:25:02.466)
I didn't win anything. I won a lost.

Matt (01:25:11.432)
You've won.

Chris (01:25:13.634)
I'll take it!

Luciano (01:25:15.057)
Hahaha!

Matt (01:25:15.908)
That's all I got, you won. You can print the certificate and post it in your house if you'd like to. Put it on your LinkedIn, that's a great idea. Before we leave, we still are gonna rank this movie. Our patented ranking system is ours and ours alone. No one else has ever used it in the history of time and space. It is the S tier ranking system, which you clearly don't know about because we created it. The best movies are S, every time we recreate it. The best movies are S.

Chris (01:25:18.05)
How to process?

Laura Guest (01:25:19.825)
Hehehehehehe

Luciano (01:25:20.237)
Among the losers, you're the last.

Chris (01:25:22.51)
I'm putting this on my LinkedIn, go on.

Luciano (01:25:40.945)
We recreated every time.

Matt (01:25:46.356)
A, B, C, D, F all the way down. F is the worst. We don't go below F even if it's a Morbius. We do not drop below the F level. Luciano, can you give us your review of across the multiverse, spider verse, spider verse, Marvel verse, universe?

Luciano (01:25:52.776)
Hahaha

Luciano (01:26:02.073)
Spider-verse. The movie where Hobie is a character, yes. Sure. So I really enjoyed this movie. The art, the animation, the visual language of this movie was amazing. I think even better than the first one, which is saying a lot because it was amazing. Really good comedy, really fun scenes. I nearly lost my shit when...

Laura Guest (01:26:07.116)
Come on.

Matt (01:26:07.352)
Hobie verse.

Luciano (01:26:29.149)
that helicopter almost fell on everybody and the guy went, oh, I think it's a Banksy. Fucking lost my shit on that joke. And I liked the story. I liked the characters that they introduced except for Mike Miguel, he could go fuck himself as a dick. But so this would have been an easy A for me, except for one thing, which is the shitty ending, like the cliffhanger thing. And I don't like that this movie can't stand on its own.

Matt (01:26:50.077)
Uh oh.

Luciano (01:26:58.097)
Like I'm all for setting up a sequel, that's fine, but like the movie doesn't end. It has no, it's like Doom, it's like half a movie. And I don't like what it's setting up, the whole Prowler, Miles thing that they set up and all that. I like putting the team back together. I'm missing Spider Pig, but I like putting the team back together. But because of that, really, like there is a lot of, a little, like a little...

plot hole here and there, nothing that is too bad, but the ending for me makes it into a B. So that would be my rank.

Matt (01:27:35.356)
All right, that's harsh but fair, I guess. Brave but controversial, perhaps. Chris, what do you got? We'll see.

Luciano (01:27:41.753)
I don't think it's got controversy.

Chris (01:27:46.146)
So I knew the movie existed, right? And I did my best to avoid as many trailers as possible. And just wanted to go in as blank as I did the first time. And I feel like I was richly rewarded. It hit me in the feels. There were tons of, oh, wow, it's this, it's that, it's this. But at the same time, I mean, the first thing that hit me was the music and the sound and the instrumentals. And I was just like, wow. Like, and that leading off with Gwen, like just like.

Luciano (01:27:51.133)
same.

Chris (01:28:15.158)
It was like Whiplash, like a slice of the Whiplash movie in her, in her dimension, right? And I was like, fucking, this is really good. Oh, and then like, I almost thought that she was gonna be, I didn't know for sure if the lead of this movie was gonna be Miles or Gwen based on that intro. And I was loving it. And it just kept going and kept going. And everything was rich, like everything. So for me, like it was a really.

Luciano (01:28:20.368)
Ah, yeah, nice.

Chris (01:28:43.382)
really, really wonderful outcome. And I was sad that it ended, but I understood. I didn't know that it was gonna go into, I long forgot that I was gonna make a third movie, right? But anyways, I really, really enjoyed myself. And thanks to the powers of our sponsor for this episode, Special K Juice, I'm giving this an S. This is an S movie for me. Yeah.

Luciano (01:29:04.462)
I'm sorry.

Laura Guest (01:29:08.106)
Hehehe

Luciano (01:29:10.981)
continue the everlasting archaeological investigation of Chris's rating system.

Laura Guest (01:29:11.616)
Wow.

Chris (01:29:18.582)
Don't worry about it because when you think about it and you juxtapose the system and spectrum that I use of the arachno humanoid poly multiverse, it all makes sense.

Luciano (01:29:28.617)
I think it's just drugs mostly, but okay.

Chris (01:29:30.843)
I think you yield your time.

Laura Guest (01:29:32.044)
Hehehe

Matt (01:29:35.192)
um... laura why don't you go after whatever this has been

Laura Guest (01:29:37.38)
Hehehehe.

Chris (01:29:39.211)
Okay.

Luciano (01:29:40.241)
Hahaha!

Laura Guest (01:29:45.824)
First of all, this has been nothing but a pleasure to be a part of. I give it an absolute solid A, if not like an A trending towards an S. Once I finally figured out that I wasn't supposed to look at anything else but the characters that they wanted me to look at and stopped kind of getting a headache in that way, that was great. I also like, I think what really makes it an A is also that

Chris (01:29:51.234)
Mmm.

Chris (01:29:58.146)
Hmm?

Laura Guest (01:30:13.46)
So scenes that you guys are talking about and like little details that I just did not notice. I'm like, oh, I'd rewatch it to see that kind of thing. Like there's nothing, you know, I mean, what would stop me is the two and a half hour timeline, but yeah, so like that was the only downside was I was kind of like, this is really, you know, running long, but I had no idea that there was a third coming. So when there was a cliffhanger, I was like, oh, okay. Like I'm still in this. Like I'm...

Chris (01:30:17.271)
Mmm.

Luciano (01:30:22.803)
Yeah.

Chris (01:30:41.816)
Mmm.

Laura Guest (01:30:42.608)
I really want to know what's going to happen. And yeah, so I really enjoyed all the details. Like I said, the animation, I agree with Chris. Like the score was unbelievable. And yeah, eh.

Matt (01:30:56.916)
Yep. Hey, okay. Great.

Luciano (01:30:58.901)
Hahahaha

Laura Guest (01:30:59.368)
Yeah. Eh.

Chris (01:31:02.875)
A.

Matt (01:31:03.15)
I will also give this movie a score as well.

Laura Guest (01:31:08.623)
Hehehe

Luciano (01:31:10.205)
BOOTHIS MAN!

Chris (01:31:10.318)
Thanks for coming! No, I'm kidding. Kidding.

Matt (01:31:12.04)
Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, so no, I really enjoyed this movie. I thought it was really good. I think it's better than the first one as well. They do a lot. It's like they they've hit there. They did good things in the first room, we set it up and they hit their stride with really embracing the artwork, how they designed it, how they made everything feel like it mattered even when they were trying to track you towards the center and with their way they blurred it.

Laura Guest (01:31:14.412)
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

Matt (01:31:39.992)
They were still doing things on the side to sort of make you feel things in the movie that you just can't reproduce in live action. So they're really taking advantage of the medium. Um, I will mention here cause we haven't covered it. That's, uh, I really wish they could have done this without, you know, completely abusing the animation stuff, but here we are, we can't actually have nice things. We can only dream of them. But beyond that, I, I would categorize it as an A. Um, and really the only reason for me, it's not, not to the S tier is really the

Luciano (01:32:00.809)
Hehehe

Matt (01:32:09.464)
That cliffhanger, I understand why they want to do it, but it makes it really hard for me to come back and watch the movie singularly, because it's like you have such expectations for the third movie now, and you can't just watch it as a one-off and be like, oh, that was a fun movie, okay. It really, it's really gonna drive you towards watching third movie, assuming the third movie is good. You know, if it turns out to be shit, then maybe I'll move this to an S and never think about the third movie ever again.

But until that time happens, since they've done two really good ones, I'll assume it's gonna be great. So it's an A from me. Really, really fun movie.

Luciano (01:32:41.741)
Interesting, I was thinking of the same, if the third movie sucks I actually would move this to a C, not to an S. Yeah, I mean, yeah, well no.

Matt (01:32:47.82)
Wow.

See, controversial yet brave.

Laura Guest (01:32:52.508)
Whoa!

Matt (01:32:55.2)
Well, Laura, thank you for joining us.

Laura Guest (01:32:55.624)
Oh damn.

Chris (01:32:57.643)
Thank you.

Luciano (01:32:58.81)
Yeah.

Laura Guest (01:33:02.292)
Thank you for having me.

Matt (01:33:02.388)
You were definitely our first choice. You're not done yet. Well, I mean, next week we are moving on to our special December, another special December episode, but this one's extra special. Popcorn and plot holes are going to the movies. We are going to be watching John Woo's...

Laura Guest (01:33:05.396)
Bye, boys. No, I don't know.

Chris (01:33:20.43)
Ooh, ooh.

Luciano (01:33:22.565)
Wait, wait, what? We're meeting in person, like in the real world? What the fuck? Oh, Jesus.

Matt (01:33:27.456)
don't tell people. Be cool. We're all separately going to the movies by ourselves. We're definitely not going to meet up and go even though we all are in the same town. And we're going to watch John Woo's I hope Triumphant Return to Hollywood in Silent Night. For all I know is in the movie the Joel Kinnaman vehicle.

Chris (01:33:31.042)
Heh.

Chris (01:33:34.369)
Okay.

Luciano (01:33:50.534)
Hahaha!

Chris (01:33:53.166)
Silent night

Matt (01:33:53.3)
I might change it after you see it.

It's an action masterpiece I pray for. So I'm going to watch that at the theater and then review it. So this one, if you were going to spoil the shit out of it. So go to the theater or, you know, wait until you've seen it.

Luciano (01:34:12.133)
Yep. Or don't get it spoiled and fuck you, it's up to you really.

Chris (01:34:12.546)
Thanks.

Matt (01:34:16.224)
Yeah, fuck whatever. That's your poor choice. Well, we don't say fuck you directly to our guest. Just fuck your, fuck, fuck your choices is the way we like to put it. Luciano.

Chris (01:34:16.462)
Cough cough.

Laura Guest (01:34:22.696)
Yeah, fuck you.

Luciano (01:34:22.981)
Yeah we do. I do at least.

Chris (01:34:24.194)
It ha-

Laura Guest (01:34:28.48)
Luciano just dead.

Chris (01:34:29.215)
Fuck your couch.

Luciano (01:34:29.241)
Laura, you're new here. So this is something that you know, you never do what I do. It's just a bad idea overall. Yeah.

Matt (01:34:36.21)
Mm-hmm.

Luciano (01:34:39.441)
Thank you. Now you're fitting right in.

Matt (01:34:39.808)
There you go, now you're getting it. Laura, I was gonna ask you if you had last words, but I think we need to leave it on. Fuck you, Luciano.

Laura Guest (01:34:40.637)
Uh, okay, okay. Fuck you, Luciano.

Luciano (01:34:48.874)
As this tradition, I guess.

Laura Guest (01:34:52.488)
Yeah. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Matt (01:34:53.728)
Yeah, right. All right. Well, then we'll see you all next week for John Woo's Silent Night. Goodbye.

Luciano (01:34:53.777)
I mean, you did say it.

Luciano (01:35:01.701)
Bye.

Chris (01:35:01.902)
Bye!