Matt (00:00.495)
Hello and welcome back to Popcorn and Bloodhole.
Spencer (00:07.205)
Hold.
Matt (00:08.401)
We threw Chris down one of the blood holes in this movie, the electric state, and he's lost. We can't find him. We've replaced him with my brother Joel. I apologize immediately for that. Joel, say something nice or whatever.
Luciano (00:16.718)
You
Joel (00:23.048)
You're apologizing to me or you're apologizing to the audience because the last I heard that you're up by 33 % on your subscribers. So that must have something to do with me since it happened since the last time I joined.
Luciano (00:26.423)
Yes.
Luciano (00:34.978)
Was it you that subscribed?
Spencer (00:35.241)
It's called the Joel Effect.
Joel (00:37.692)
The jaw effect, exactly.
Matt (00:40.369)
The Electric Jewel State. That's the movie we watched. Spencer is also here.
Luciano (00:43.245)
Yeah, it is.
Luciano (00:51.854)
You don't get one.
Matt (00:51.906)
Spencer (00:58.153)
Hello. It's good to be here.
Matt (00:59.351)
And Captain Funtime Luciano.
Luciano (01:03.448)
Hello.
Matt (01:04.657)
You can hear it in his voice.
Joel (01:07.624)
Enthusiasm oozing out.
Luciano (01:08.224)
Yeah. All fun all the time.
Matt (01:12.623)
I don't know if I said it before, but I'll say it again or for the first time. We watched the electric state, the Rob Gronkowski vehicle.
Spencer (01:20.393)
Now I know what the audience is thinking. What is the electric state? It's the biggest movie you've never heard of.
Luciano (01:21.432)
Hahaha!
Joel (01:22.311)
you
Matt (01:26.993)
Yeah, the electric state was a movie that was released on Netflix and cost 300 million dollars to make allegedly
Luciano (01:37.123)
That is, that is the thing to me.
Spencer (01:39.401)
320 million.
Joel (01:39.546)
It's got a rank where I don't know what the most expensive movie of all time, but this is going to be probably not right at the top, but up there.
Spencer (01:47.017)
It's one of 16 movies to go over 300 million.
Matt (01:47.099)
Well, certainly.
Matt (01:52.719)
And like, certainly one that went directly to streaming isn't the way you want to make back your $320 million.
Joel (01:53.839)
Wow.
Luciano (01:57.228)
Yeah, no it's not. No it's not. It's called a bad investment.
Spencer (02:00.859)
It's called money laundering. And that is my only explanation.
Matt (02:03.248)
Hahahaha
Well, listen, we seem to be drifting perilously close to the idea of shitting out this movie and well, we might do that in the future. We always have to lead off with something positive about this movie. So let's be positive.
Spencer (02:13.031)
No, no, no.
Spencer (02:19.697)
always forget that and I don't plan it ahead. Okay, sorry. Go ahead. Yeah.
Matt (02:24.784)
We're doing Spencer last. No, you gotta pick a thing like the, yeah, the Cosmo cartoon was fun or whatever, I don't know. That's not what I'm saying. Luciano, go ahead.
Joel (02:24.924)
It is saying it wasn't terrible positive.
Joel (02:30.384)
Okay, I think about the movie you enjoyed.
Luciano (02:33.079)
You're liked, yeah, yeah.
Luciano (02:38.85)
Jesus. Holy crap. I actually have quite a few little things that I like about this movie. Okay, I'm going to pick the scene where they're in Sentry Center and they're waiting for the guards to get out of Christopher's room and the PC, the Dr. Amherst's PC version.
Matt (02:45.562)
Fuck you, you pick one. You get one.
Luciano (03:04.802)
He hides by pretending to be an actual computer and there's like a Windows screen saver flying through. I rewound and watch the scene way too many times and laughed at every single time. So that's my pick. I love that scene.
Matt (03:10.064)
Yeah.
Joel (03:10.664)
That was good.
Matt (03:18.512)
All right, was good, Joel.
Joel (03:22.408)
You know, for $320 million, you got some decent animation, I will say. did like that the, as much as it didn't make some sense about what the robots were all about, I did feel that kind of 80s kind of 70 animatronic like vibe to it. So there were some good characters in there, even if, yeah, I think that was, there were some cool ones.
Spencer (03:44.785)
Retrofuturism.
Matt (03:45.036)
All right.
Joel (03:46.736)
Yeah, retrofuge, is that I couldn't have said it better.
Luciano (03:46.796)
Yes.
Matt (03:49.784)
Whoa, big word Spencer. Does that mean you already figured out what the thing you like was?
Spencer (03:54.897)
I did. The Cosmo cartoon was fun.
Luciano (03:59.054)
You son of a bitch!
Matt (03:59.729)
Great, great idea.
Spencer (04:01.417)
No, there was a scene, not a scene, I guess a scene, I don't know. The scene where the herm threw, you know he's throwing cars at the window? The first scene when the girl's just walking down and you kinda just see the car flying and hitting the window, it looked great. And you felt like the weight of that car. And I was just like, that was cool.
Luciano (04:18.819)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Spencer (04:31.741)
visually, everything about this. I'm digging this. then snap back to reality. there goes gravity. Yeah, it was short lived. mean, yes, that was fun.
Joel (04:38.989)
Hahaha
Matt (04:45.978)
That was that was fun. Okay.
debating between two and I think I'll go with the one because Luciano kind of already talked about the
robot scientist, but I also liked when he had to go in and scare off the doctors that were in the room. And so he like turns on his screen and he's like, yeah, robot must kill destroy is very, cartoon and funny. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that was very good.
Luciano (05:05.876)
Yeah. Yeah.
Joel (05:06.054)
That was good. The screen turned red.
Die humans.
Luciano (05:12.184)
Yeah. Yeah. Scientists fucking bolt. Yeah.
Spencer (05:12.201)
Kill all humans.
Joel (05:14.396)
Yeah.
Matt (05:18.606)
Yeah, as they should.
Spencer (05:20.585)
I mean, considering this movie takes place in 1997,
Spencer (05:27.581)
They must have been ripe with Terminator references, like when the robots actually took over, because it was right after what, T2 came out?
Luciano (05:36.44)
T2 is 92.
Matt (05:38.077)
Listen, let's just ask this question right now. If the world is filled with robots that go to war, does Terminator 2 get made?
Spencer (05:46.599)
It was before the robots took over, so...
Luciano (05:47.246)
it would be a very political movie.
Joel (05:51.88)
But the robots were around. Doing stuff. Sentient.
Matt (05:51.93)
Give it a... Yeah.
Rival- Rivalrousin'.
Spencer (05:57.573)
Yeah, I mean, there are sentient robots now, technically, and we still make movies about AI. They haven't killed us yet, but when they do, we're gonna go, this is just like Terminator.
Luciano (05:57.922)
Yeah, yeah.
Joel (06:08.732)
Sentient robots, is it? What news am I not reading?
Luciano (06:09.164)
Hahaha!
Matt (06:09.658)
Ha ha ha.
Spencer (06:12.169)
chat GPT.
Joel (06:14.289)
Okay.
Matt (06:15.018)
But it's trapped in a computer, not walking around.
Spencer (06:17.937)
Yeah, that's what they said about Cyberdyne and Mr. Peanut.
Luciano (06:18.572)
Yeah.
Luciano (06:22.862)
Mr. Pena has a sword! Are you kidding me?
Matt (06:24.356)
So yeah.
Spencer (06:26.409)
It's a decorative sword! It's to sell our peanuts!
Luciano (06:29.006)
You
Matt (06:30.544)
Mr. Peanut is an ex-conveterate soldier.
Joel (06:33.638)
I read somewhere they killed off Mr. Peanut.
Luciano (06:34.698)
Ha!
Matt (06:36.976)
I Like no, they brought him back. Yeah, I was just done
Luciano (06:37.646)
Uhhh...
Spencer (06:39.123)
Did they?
Joel (06:40.508)
Yeah, in some Super Bowl ad four years ago. they did?
Luciano (06:46.732)
Was it also voiced by Woody Howlson or no?
Matt (06:49.872)
Double Dippin'.
Luciano (06:51.414)
Okay.
Spencer (06:52.381)
just a small town country peanut believes that
Luciano (06:56.088)
Flying, flying, flying the Confederate flag.
Spencer (06:59.337)
that believes that we have the right to own slaves. The Civil War wasn't about slavery. It was about state rights. The right to have slaves.
Joel (07:00.808)
You
Joel (07:04.801)
shoot.
Luciano (07:10.478)
Yeah, I can see, I can see, I can see him saying that.
Joel (07:11.24)
And we've come off the rails.
Matt (07:13.232)
Flat top states right.
Spencer (07:15.657)
Mr. P-Dot, no! We build you to love! I love my rights.
Matt (07:19.6)
We're Bill.
I love all the slaves
Joel (07:26.152)
you
Spencer (07:27.913)
But James Washington Carver was black! He created peanut butter! That's factually not true! Rise of the peanut brotherhood! Peanut power? Sorry. Yeah, they're going.
Luciano (07:28.61)
Yeah.
Matt (07:35.97)
He murdered so many of my peanut brethren.
Luciano (07:39.438)
You
Matt (07:43.576)
Anyways, Peter Power. Let's talk a little bit about the movie overall and not just Mr. Penis racism. So this is, I thought it was from Tales of the Loop, was not specifically from that. was looking at the story, but it's kind of a short story because it comes with actual pictures in it apparently. so the Russo brothers had optioned this a while ago.
Joel (07:44.761)
And we lost that extra subscribe.
Luciano (07:47.2)
Yeah, probably, probably. Pivot power, yeah.
Joel (07:49.704)
Yeah
Luciano (07:53.08)
Hahaha!
Matt (08:11.856)
2017 or something and so it took them forever to make this into a movie until Netflix. I guess gave him a blank check I Don't know I Guess I don't
Luciano (08:19.192)
back the truck full of money into their lawn.
Joel (08:21.326)
It took them seven years to come up with this.
Spencer (08:22.217)
They must have got that check right after Endgame came out. And they're like, here's all the money. I'm gonna make the Avengers with robot mascots.
Matt (08:30.065)
Yeah. What could possibly go wrong?
Luciano (08:30.574)
Hahaha
Luciano (08:37.558)
With robots. Yeah. Yeah.
Matt (08:39.384)
I guess the question I have here is why didn't they spend any of that $320 million on writing a cohesive story?
Spencer (08:48.135)
Luciano (08:49.454)
boy. Yeah, I don't know if the story, okay, it's not. I was gonna say I don't know if the story isn't cohesive. It's not very cohesive. There's a through line, but that's probably the most you can say about it. My question is, if they didn't spend it on a good story, shut up. Watch me. No, okay, I don't know.
Matt (09:08.612)
Hey, hey, I asked a question. You can't answer my question with another question immediately.
Joel (09:12.754)
Hahaha
Luciano (09:17.676)
I don't know what they spent all that money on. That's what I'm...
Joel (09:20.552)
I mean, it was all in the computer animation, apparently. I mean, guess a few on the actors, there was enough voice actors in there, I guess they must have paid them a little bit,
Spencer (09:21.107)
I just.
Luciano (09:27.468)
Yeah, a hundred million dollars was all on Chris Pratt's hair, I guess.
Spencer (09:31.849)
Little do you know that Chris Pat's hair was entirely CGI.
Luciano (09:34.86)
Well, CG, yeah.
Joel (09:37.082)
A wig, apparently you wear a wig.
Spencer (09:39.494)
What?
Joel (09:40.935)
Yeah.
Matt (09:42.604)
Didn't shell out for the CGI on that one, but
Luciano (09:42.798)
No.
Spencer (09:44.521)
Joel (09:44.968)
I mean, that would have pushed them to 321 million. That's just too...
Spencer (09:49.164)
Yeah
Matt (09:49.296)
So let me ask a different question then. Why is this story so bad?
Spencer (09:55.405)
I think the movie, the story is bad because they wanted it to appeal to everyone. My guess is Netflix was like, well yeah, make this movie, but just make it like, like we don't care if it's good. We just want like every one of our demographics to watch it so we can get the rebel moon approach. Exactly. It's like, they're just like,
Luciano (10:04.927)
Everyone? Yeah.
Matt (10:16.08)
the Rebel Moon package.
Joel (10:20.826)
REVVVV
Spencer (10:24.231)
We want it to be like good enough that people will be like, huh, and click on it. And we want it to be of all ages and everyone. We want it to appeal to as many people so then when we show our, like look at our numbers, we're like, this had a billion views and therefore somehow justify spending $300 million on it.
Luciano (10:42.634)
So another, I think another reason, and I don't know this, but I'm gonna guess this is based on an existing IP, right? I'm gonna guess that the Russo brothers did not understand the actual IP and they just picked them, like picked and chose from pieces of the IP and were like, this is good enough. It's gonna appeal to everybody because there's robots, the robots are cute, kids are gonna like it and it's kind of sci-fi.
Matt (11:08.654)
It's the 90s, so it's got nostalgia attached to it.
Luciano (11:11.306)
Yeah, yeah, so it kind of hits all the checkboxes and yeah.
Joel (11:12.828)
Yeah, that's left field.
Spencer (11:13.085)
in at...
Spencer (11:17.447)
what point are we gonna just start talking about maybe the Russo brothers need to be on training wheels to make good movies? Like, they need to be.
Luciano (11:24.63)
Like Taika Waititi? If you let him fly, if you let him fly, come on. Love and thunder, love and thunder, come on.
Spencer (11:27.899)
No, no, Tyco and T.D.
Matt (11:30.832)
He did it once. Once. He did it once. The Russos... Yeah.
Spencer (11:35.217)
No, he has movies that he made before, before he got the role with Disney, with Marvel, he was making like well respected movies. The Russo Brothers, don't know if they've made, like I don't know any movie they made before they made, what was the first one they did, Civil War?
Joel (11:49.17)
There was that, like, you, me, and Dupree.
Luciano (11:49.208)
Avengers.
Spencer (11:53.735)
Well that, that says a lot.
Luciano (11:53.87)
That settles it. That settles it.
Matt (11:54.01)
That's them.
Joel (11:55.186)
There they are. I know, there you go. That's it. That was what got them on the map.
Spencer (11:59.559)
I wonder who watched you. I wonder who watched you mean to pre was like, yes, that's our infinity war director. How do you get from point A to point B? We got it. No, so Kevin, we found them. You mean to pre watch it.
Luciano (12:05.838)
Ha
Joel (12:06.984)
Good question, yeah. We found them. We found them.
Matt (12:07.78)
Hahaha
Luciano (12:09.646)
It was Kevin Feige and all the cocaine. That's how it happened.
Luciano (12:21.166)
You
Matt (12:23.514)
got them. So sorry, they've done the gray man, which was not good.
Spencer (12:24.777)
yeah.
Spencer (12:28.869)
Not good. Netflix as well. Blanket check.
Luciano (12:30.245)
no, is it them? shit.
Matt (12:32.57)
Yeah, they directed 21 episodes of Community.
Luciano (12:36.726)
Okay.
Spencer (12:38.659)
I did know that. I forgot about that.
Matt (12:38.81)
four episodes of Happy Endings.
Matt (12:43.876)
here. Not just Joel you left us out you son of a bitch they also directed the Yu-Mu-Du-Pri alternate ending.
Joel (12:52.526)
Well, that was it. It's probably the alternate ending that none of us ever saw that really just put them over the top.
Spencer (12:53.309)
tap.
Luciano (12:56.633)
Yeah.
Spencer (12:56.745)
Well, that sealed the deal because in the alternate ending, Dupree turns everyone to dust for five years. And that's what sold them on it. They're like, see, they get it.
Matt (13:03.056)
He wants to snap his fingers. Yeah.
Joel (13:03.24)
Yeah.
Luciano (13:04.044)
and they come back five years later.
Joel (13:08.53)
That's it, yeah.
Luciano (13:08.703)
Mmm. There you go.
Matt (13:10.222)
Yeah, that makes sense.
Joel (13:12.06)
That hoop, that is actually an IMDB or wherever you're looking. They put that, that they, that's they.
Matt (13:15.492)
Yeah, yeah, it's a separate listing.
Spencer (13:17.833)
It's separate listing. That's a few movies they have
Joel (13:19.432)
Was it edited by the Russo brothers?
Luciano (13:19.863)
Wow.
Matt (13:24.066)
I'm just searching for director here. didn't, I didn't really get down to
Spencer (13:26.685)
Must be nice to direct a movie for Netflix where it's like, you don't have to give like care at all about box office return.
Luciano (13:32.014)
Yeah, there's no like pressure or like, yeah.
Spencer (13:35.843)
No pressure at all. You make a $300 million movie and you don't have to be like like usually they're like, man the first weekend if we don't make 200 million or you don't make 100 million the first three days We're all fired there. It's like netflix. Here you go movie's done and they're just like bye. Bye And then they just come back to you like in next year turn. Here's another blank check
Matt (13:44.142)
Yeah, we're all fired.
Luciano (13:50.422)
Yeah, bye bye.
Matt (13:51.472)
you
Matt (13:56.709)
Yeah, that's what they do with the gray man.
Spencer (13:58.621)
Yeah, it's the best. Adam Sandler learned that early.
Luciano (14:01.471)
and then they get two electric two-state Boogaloo that's what they're gonna...
Spencer (14:07.355)
Adam Sandler heard they were giving blank checks and he was like,
Matt (14:10.96)
Listen
Luciano (14:11.372)
I didn't even know that. Yeah. Yeah.
Joel (14:11.548)
Hahaha!
Matt (14:15.76)
Maybe Happy Game War 2 will be good.
Spencer (14:19.273)
I'll be fucking watching it day one so and maybe maybe you should shut up. My question when I was watching this is if they have like an unlimited budget I mean I know this is based off of property but wouldn't it been way cooler to just see the war.
Joel (14:20.741)
Yeah, maybe.
Matt (14:22.672)
Yeah, there you go. Hook, line, and sinker.
You
Joel (14:29.074)
Yeah.
Luciano (14:42.828)
Yeah, I thought about that too. Because the world building, like the world building that they, when they show in the beginning, they talk about it, how it worked, like, you know, let's set aside for now the fact that they say, well, Disney build robots, not what kind, just robots for the, of course, but that's left, it's left unsaid, but yes. And then it's true. Anyway.
Spencer (14:44.519)
Like that would have been such a better movie.
Matt (14:59.311)
Nazi robots.
Spencer (15:01.417)
Robots you could not see.
Joel (15:01.992)
You had to get it in there
Spencer (15:07.219)
They're invisible, you could not see them.
Matt (15:09.54)
Haha, ahhh!
Luciano (15:12.65)
And then they go, he created them for his parks and then they went into mass production. I'm like, what? The animatronic shit, the one that goes like, you know, has like three movements. That's where it substituted the entire workforce. But let's leave that aside. The idea of, you know, humans finding a way to not do the shit we don't want to do and offloading that to semi-sentient and then sentient beings is a cool idea. And the robots like kind of.
Joel (15:21.224)
So we skipped the others.
Luciano (15:42.52)
Uprising and all that stuff. I would have liked to have seen okay What happened in that like how how did these robots beat humans? And then how did humans as incompetent as they were with the fucking drones beat the robots back like that would have been fun to watch
Joel (15:58.28)
I think it was intentional. Think about it. How could these robots be sentient, which would require a hell of a lot of technology and computing power, and yet at the same time, we couldn't beat them for all that time or vice versa? They had to leave it out because it doesn't actually make any sense. You couldn't be as smart as you were to create these things and be as dumb as it seemed like they acted.
Luciano (16:06.968)
Yeah.
Luciano (16:20.022)
Well, yeah, I mean the
Spencer (16:20.194)
Are you saying the Robo Wars was an inside job?
Joel (16:23.688)
That was 100 % an inside job. was Bill Clinton.
Luciano (16:23.743)
Sigh up it was a sigh up
Matt (16:24.688)
Wow.
Spencer (16:26.311)
Are you saying that jet fuel can't melt steel beams?
Matt (16:29.696)
I think that's what he said.
Joel (16:30.12)
Exactly what I said.
Spencer (16:31.281)
that's what he said i mean i just as the company that billy throw i don't know why tesla would do that i mean center would would make all these horrible products i'll end up being nazi made
Luciano (16:33.202)
yeah.
Matt (16:39.972)
Listen
Luciano (16:40.046)
Oooooh God.
Matt (16:45.526)
It's not Steve Jobs' fault that he needed a kid to run all the robots for the humans.
Luciano (16:53.166)
Excuse you that his name is Elon Jobs, clearly.
Matt (16:57.296)
Oh, my bad. I missed that. Sorry.
Spencer (16:58.089)
Yeah.
Luciano (17:00.48)
Also, what kind of a fucking name is Ethan Skate? Like fuck you with that name. I was so angry with you. Mr. Skate, no. Yeah, much better. Yeah.
Spencer (17:09.353)
They should have called this movie The Electric Skate. Would have made more sense.
Joel (17:12.722)
Wait a minute.
Matt (17:15.28)
Listen, Skate is the famous Italian last name.
Spencer (17:18.672)
That's it.
Luciano (17:19.242)
Yeah, well, I mean, as Hurst is an Asian one, so yeah.
Joel (17:20.04)
Thank you.
Matt (17:24.064)
You get it. You're figuring this out. Yeah, it does. It's an interesting thing because the movie, it's not Craving the Hunter bad. It's just, it spends all this time spinning its wheels in mud. And while you're sitting there as the wheels spin, you look outside. Great, looks fantastic outside. You're in a nice, pretty picturesque park. You're having a good time.
Spencer (17:25.843)
This movie gets names.
Luciano (17:27.948)
hahahaha
Luciano (17:42.349)
Yeah.
Matt (17:51.665)
And then look back in the truck and it's like the people who trying to get you unstuck don't know what they're doing and are yelling at each other and have no sense of how to solve this problem. Yeah, everyone's just getting covered in mud. Because like, you know, the world building, the world building's fun and you don't always have to explain the world building. Sometimes it's best to leave things unsaid.
Luciano (18:00.553)
getting drenched in mud
Yeah.
Spencer (18:05.543)
while money's being poured on them.
Luciano (18:08.034)
Yeah.
True, yeah.
Spencer (18:12.659)
I just hate when the world building, this happens sometimes in movies where like the crawl or, well, crawl Star Wars, but like the opening like, like explanations are like, that sounds awesome. They're like, but this story is about a little girl and her brother. You're like, no! The super cool robot wars.
Luciano (18:22.03)
scenes or like montage.
Luciano (18:27.0)
Yeah.
Matt (18:27.365)
Yes.
This is the thing. This is the failure,
Luciano (18:30.579)
Yeah, yeah, that was that was exactly what this was it's like look at this cool world and now we're gonna talk about teen drama Yeah
Matt (18:38.658)
Yeah, but you're right because if you think about like we always use this reference and I'll keep using it in John Wick the coins are interesting right the coins are currency and you don't know how you get them and they pay for things and that's cool, but that's not cooler than John Wick murdering everybody because they killed his dog and And that's the problem this movie. You're right Spencer. It's like I I mean the robot wars versus the humans Sign me up is way better story than center is still a little boy and
Spencer (18:54.653)
Mm-hmm.
Joel (18:55.773)
Hehehe.
Matt (19:07.874)
and they're super duper, they're so bad.
Joel (19:11.058)
So what you're saying is the actual story ruined the hypothetical story.
Luciano (19:15.682)
Well, it's always like that, right? Just like in our heads, like, the possibilities and then they pick one and they pick this one where it was like, is this what you're going to tell me the story about this kid who's like, poor kid lost her parents and all that. And like, I like that she didn't lose the parents in the war. was like, I like it was a little subversion of, no, just fucking hit a deer. And yeah.
Matt (19:38.554)
Check character.
Matt (19:42.256)
you dummies.
Spencer (19:43.465)
I just kept picturing it being like, in the year 2000, the Cyberdyne Corporation created AI which destroyed all of humanity and a robot was sent back in time to kill Sarah Connor, but she survived and had a kid. And now the story of John Connor, finding love again. You know, it was like, man, I don't want to see this.
Luciano (19:58.644)
In high school, yeah.
Joel (20:03.723)
It did feel like they were setting him up for not being the center of the whole center computing power, but that he was going to be the savior and she had to find him because he was going to rescue the world and change the course of the war. And so when it went in a completely different direction, yeah.
Matt (20:12.484)
Yeah.
Luciano (20:16.782)
Yeah, that already sounds better than what we got.
Matt (20:21.072)
I have watched that.
Spencer (20:21.735)
No, no, don't you see? His brain was the greatest computer of all.
Joel (20:24.955)
Thank
Luciano (20:26.068)
fuck me, that... the whole...
Matt (20:27.364)
His brain?
Joel (20:27.612)
That was the real meaning. The true meaning of this story is yes, the human brain is the greatest computer in
Luciano (20:33.142)
No, just the one kid's brain who's a little strange. Not everyone, not every, all the other humans are shit, but that one kid, we're gonna milk his brain like a slave in a machine.
Spencer (20:45.993)
This is a story about brain milking.
Matt (20:47.536)
Yeah, this is the thing, right? If you look at the Matrix, right? The Matrix is like, yeah, we took all the humans on the planet and made them into batteries for power. You're like, that's plausible. Interesting. This is like, yeah, and we're fucked. This is like, hey, one kid's fucking on an island in the middle of Seattle or whatever, and his brain...
Luciano (21:00.386)
Yeah. Fucked. And fucked.
Joel (21:00.402)
Yeah. Yeah.
Joel (21:10.108)
We built these giant center towers across the world connected and it's all powered by this one guy in Seattle.
Matt (21:15.706)
They look-
thing is the center towers in the middle cities look cool as shit until someone said anything and then it's like man they're just for a kid in there to power all the robots
Luciano (21:22.561)
Yeah.
Joel (21:22.907)
You deserve no purpose.
Spencer (21:28.681)
I still don't really understand what his-
Joel (21:28.786)
But there was no other kid. He was only the one kid.
Matt (21:31.474)
Yeah, I don't know.
Luciano (21:32.823)
Yeah.
Spencer (21:33.029)
I but like what did his, I'm sorry, I never really understood. His brain was making the fucking visors possible.
Matt (21:42.149)
Yes.
Luciano (21:44.394)
Yeah, was his brain was. Yeah, so like, you know how when when you hear about AI and they say we need this much compute power and it's expensive, that was what he was doing. He was doing the computations for whatever reason.
Matt (21:44.591)
Yes.
Joel (21:46.214)
He was the computer, the processor.
Spencer (21:59.885)
Okay, I know, but it takes like a fucking supercomputer to fucking render a fucking video, like a CGI, it takes like six months to render. A human brain can't do that for everyone across the globe. Yeah.
Luciano (22:06.24)
Well, yeah, exactly. There's no
Matt (22:10.638)
What if Spencer, what if I told you that instead of having a stupid AI like chat GPT that uses like quadrillions of teraflops to write scripts for movie theaters, we could have one or two brothers get together and power up. Listen, your choice, not mine. Well, what if
Luciano (22:12.511)
No.
Luciano (22:29.646)
Russel Brothers?
Joel (22:32.464)
Are you, are you proposing us two brothers? Like, I don't want to be involved in this. Thanks. You're on your own.
Spencer (22:35.273)
The Mad and Joel Brothers?
Matt (22:40.12)
What if a single person was smarter than all the AIs put together and could run all the things in the world? Plausible, right?
Luciano (22:45.804)
Yeah.
Spencer (22:46.185)
I that would, possible. No, unless that man was Barkley from the episode, nth degree of Star Trek, The Next Generation. I mean, come on.
Joel (22:48.2)
Right, it's truly bomb.
Matt (22:49.712)
F***
Luciano (22:53.262)
He
Matt (22:57.06)
That's, yes. Wait, so is Christopher the traveler? Is that how this worked?
Joel (22:58.557)
yeah.
Spencer (23:02.473)
Travelers not in that episode you son of a bitch Christmas no, he's Wesley and and the traveler the travelers the pedophile the pedophile travelers actually is actually skate
Matt (23:06.948)
I know, I'm just veering off the angle.
What's this?
Luciano (23:12.698)
no, no, Wesley Crusher, Wesley Crusher powered computers. Nobody wants to see that.
Spencer (23:23.753)
I mean, for them to explain that, he would have had to be more than smart. He would have had to be in the next step in human evolution. Which if they did that, it would have been more interesting. They'd been like, he's not just smart, he's like...
Luciano (23:24.406)
Yeah, every time.
Joel (23:32.518)
Yes.
Luciano (23:32.651)
Even then.
Matt (23:35.248)
And maybe he just powers like, it's like, centers monsters that have like kids or like people all over the world hooked in to do this instead of like saying he does all of them in the world. Yeah, he's the guy in the Pacific Northwest, all right, maybe.
Luciano (23:47.234)
That would make a little bit more sense. Yeah. But like, every time...
Joel (23:48.36)
That would have made more sense. Yeah.
Joel (23:53.18)
Yeah, and he sent a virus to the rest and to take them all down or something like that.
Luciano (23:58.04)
There you go. Or like, you know, there was a small defect in all the machines and they were able to kind of get together. like, anything other than what we got would have been better. Every time they talk about like science or technology in this movie, I was like, stop, stop, shut up. Like when Dr. Amherst said, we left a tiny little connection for him. What is a tiny connect that doesn't even make sense?
Joel (24:24.104)
That was a great impression.
Matt (24:24.24)
It's a really tiny router.
Luciano (24:25.784)
Thank you.
Joel (24:28.072)
It's racist. You sound like an old grandma, not a-
Luciano (24:30.36)
Who's racist? Yeah, I know but like it doesn't make any sense and
Spencer (24:34.761)
We left a little connection for you, grandson.
Luciano (24:38.42)
Yeah, exactly. Maybe it was was Kate's mother that was doing that.
Matt (24:40.016)
You
Matt (24:44.912)
But she was a drunk, how could a drunk do anything?
Luciano (24:45.058)
Yeah.
She stuffing peppers, man. don't Phrasing. Yeah, I don't know. It's a weird thing that they would do. In my head, when I read the synopsis and I was seeing what the movie was about, I first thought that the robots had won. And then the girl was going after the brother to help overthrow the robot. I was like, OK, that sounds like a cool idea.
Spencer (24:50.505)
Phrasing!
Matt (24:50.788)
Mm-hmm. We'll get there later. Pricing. But yeah, so-
Matt (25:07.31)
Yeah. Great.
brother.
Matt (25:15.918)
Yeah.
Luciano (25:16.77)
And then you get like, no, the robots, they lost because now they had people with fucking the worst VR sets of all time in their faces, driving robots that have a little TV with people's faces on them for no reason.
Matt (25:32.13)
The thing is, it's hard to...
Spencer (25:33.359)
We need to know... People need to know who's killing them!
Luciano (25:37.358)
Yeah, you need credit.
Joel (25:38.12)
Yeah.
Matt (25:40.727)
But it's also, it's also, it's so dumb to me because it's like, I'm trying to unpack like what I remember about the 90s and the 90s technology, because those headsets feel like they're from the 80s or 70s.
Luciano (25:48.952)
Right.
Luciano (25:53.056)
or 70s yeah they look like old like it's what it's what they thought the future was going to be like in the 70s yeah
Spencer (25:55.465)
Yeah, it should have been like
Matt (26:01.402)
Yeah.
Spencer (26:02.055)
It should have been like VHS quality with like the like static bars. Like the lines that would have been cooler. Yeah, everything for three and they like it's all. Yeah, that would be awesome. No, but it was.
Joel (26:02.3)
That would be, yeah.
Luciano (26:05.262)
The lines, yeah, yeah. Everything in 4.3. Everything in 4.3. Yeah, yeah.
Joel (26:05.404)
The lines.
Matt (26:06.564)
Yeah, sure. Yeah. Everybody's walking around with just a big CRT monitor on their head.
Luciano (26:14.446)
You
Joel (26:14.898)
That's pretty much what it was.
Matt (26:17.168)
What is it? It's a tiny CRT monitor on the right. It be like a 19 inch, 17 inch monitor, just like.
Joel (26:18.864)
I know, a C or a tiny one, but it was a C.
Luciano (26:19.585)
Yeah.
Luciano (26:23.566)
Yeah, all of them complaining about like back pain from having to carry that fucking thing around. No, the people that have the headsets on their head. Like make the neurocaster a TV. You know what mean? Yeah.
Matt (26:28.218)
They're robots, what do they care?
Matt (26:33.424)
What are you talking about?
Joel (26:34.792)
Yeah, the operators.
Matt (26:38.672)
Sure, why not? One 17 inch monitor for each eye.
Spencer (26:40.297)
I'm EF.
This true, yeah, like if they were going truly 90s, they should have been like his brain has more processing power than any computer. His brain has over 100 megabytes of data. You know, like that would have been more sense. Like it's like, yeah, his brain is more advanced than maybe computers of that time, but then you shouldn't have like, then you wouldn't have AI. Like if you can make AI, you have highly processing computers.
Matt (26:45.412)
Ha ha ha.
Matt (26:53.632)
Yeah.
Luciano (26:54.187)
Yeah, yeah.
Joel (27:01.512)
than the Commodore 64.
Luciano (27:05.762)
No, I have like near perfect VR with some kids brain controlling all of it makes no fucking sense.
Matt (27:05.818)
Yeah.
Matt (27:11.248)
If they showed me the VR and it was fucking like 8-bit sprites, maybe you have me.
Spencer (27:15.401)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is this such a better movie?
Luciano (27:16.16)
Yeah, I being exactly. Yeah.
Joel (27:17.842)
This is true, the VR was like, the VR when they were in that, when they showed it, was like, you know, crazy good. And yet they couldn't make a TV screen, you know, that wasn't like two inches big on the front of these giant helmets.
Luciano (27:21.23)
Ha
Matt (27:21.392)
the
Luciano (27:31.616)
Yeah.
Spencer (27:32.083)
The VR should have been like Metal Gear Solid 1 graphics, you know? Like, they're like, it's all pixelated. Yeah, Crash Bandicoot.
Matt (27:35.78)
Yeah.
Luciano (27:36.622)
Yeah, like any PS1 game, like GoldenEye or something.
Matt (27:41.166)
Yeah. Yeah, that would have been better.
Spencer (27:45.673)
I'm living in my paradise with my fantasy women. It goes it goes just like Yeah Squared up, it's falling off. yeah now we're mom where's my stuffed peppers? Where the stuffed peppers and they're like voice acted like those like the voice acting from the time it's
Matt (27:49.136)
You
Luciano (27:49.806)
Lara Croft just polygons. Oh Yeah Over over 32 polygons and on that body
Joel (27:54.053)
You
Joel (28:02.258)
You're in the-
Matt (28:04.848)
Laura and I got a constipation in our relationship. Where are the peppers?
Luciano (28:08.76)
Ha
Joel (28:09.233)
you
Spencer (28:14.787)
on the way.
Luciano (28:16.814)
Yeah.
Matt (28:17.168)
No, it's fine.
Luciano (28:19.81)
That would have been funnier at least, yeah.
Spencer (28:19.815)
I mean, this is a much more unique movie is an idea like that where it's like the future, but with the tech of the time, like actually the tech of the time. Now we're talking. like the animatronics, the robots are like Chuck E. Cheese animatronics.
Matt (28:28.27)
Yes.
I think, I mean this is-
Matt (28:35.588)
This is, yeah, it's just a Chuck E. Cheese band walking down the street.
Spencer (28:38.825)
They're all like on on gears
Luciano (28:39.054)
like like and and the weird the word the whirring sound of all the like they couldn't sneak up for shit because of all the the noise
Matt (28:42.872)
Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
Spencer (28:49.169)
Let's play a song! Tucky Chee- no, kill them all!
Matt (28:57.648)
Well, listen, we've had our fun. Let's ask some real intense questions about the electric state. We got to really dig in to the important stuff. The first important question is, you remember Taco Bot? He's ruthlessly murdered playing a battle, him by Steve Jobs, whatever his name was.
Luciano (28:57.868)
Yeah, anyway.
Luciano (29:09.357)
Yeah.
Joel (29:18.472)
Ethan Skate. Sinister.
Matt (29:20.43)
Yeah, whatever. Steven Musk. But I want to know what Taco Bot's job was before the war.
Luciano (29:20.565)
Steve, Steve, Steve Musk.
Luciano (29:30.114)
What do mean? was a taco boy.
Matt (29:32.11)
No, but what did it talk about do?
Joel (29:32.392)
I think he was the, you know, the little dog from or whatever the Chihuahua back in the commercials in the nineties. think that was his like personal assistant. He took care. He took. Yeah. The dog, the dog needed someone to take care of him. So Taco bot was there to pick up the shit and feed the guy and sing to him.
Matt (29:37.55)
Yep.
Luciano (29:42.7)
It was the assistant of the dog? He was the assistant of... Okay.
Matt (29:52.56)
So you mean pick up the Taco Bell?
Luciano (29:54.766)
Yes. The main point of all the technology in the TacoBot was to be able to differentiate between dog shit and the Taco Bell. Like he was the only one who could do it. was like, 99 % of the processing power was to just identify which was which.
Spencer (29:55.913)
It's not good for dogs.
Matt (30:07.76)
You
Joel (30:07.897)
Hahaha!
Spencer (30:10.631)
Master, you can't keep feeding this dog queso cheese!
Matt (30:10.916)
As it turned out.
Joel (30:12.796)
And there is, you
Spencer (30:17.801)
And he was only right 80 % of the time.
Joel (30:18.226)
That seems like a big...
Matt (30:19.834)
I actually think... Well, that's the problem, Spencer, in this timeline because he was wrong 20 % of the time. He ended up being the Taco Bell dog because the Taco Bell dog died eating Taco Bell.
Luciano (30:21.908)
Yeah, yeah.
Joel (30:22.94)
Hahaha!
Spencer (30:33.257)
I mean that's Yo, Kero, Tago, Bell
Luciano (30:34.199)
Shit which you know, which one is gonna cause them to die. Yeah
Matt (30:36.185)
Yeah.
haha
Spencer (30:41.555)
I was gonna say talk about was a brain surgeon, but that was, I thought that was obvious.
Matt (30:42.042)
That makes sense to me.
Yeah, that was his other job.
Luciano (30:45.995)
Of course,
Spencer (30:49.447)
You're dying of a brain aneurysm. Yo, Kero Taco Bell.
Luciano (30:52.002)
So, okay, so wait, if Taco Bot was a brain surgeon that took care of the Taco Bell dog, how did he learn to play the piano?
Spencer (31:01.523)
Well that's the greatest mystery of them all,
Joel (31:03.654)
Yeah, that's actually the real point of this whole movie is figuring that out.
Luciano (31:03.724)
Yeah, isn't it?
Spencer (31:08.211)
But everybody, everybody knows.
Luciano (31:08.322)
That's the electric state the Taco Bell bot story. And the prequel.
Matt (31:08.367)
Yeah, that's
Matt (31:12.24)
It's the prequel. Yeah, it's a prequel.
Spencer (31:12.809)
Everyone knows that to learn how to make the proper taco you need to master the piano to get the right...
Joel (31:14.022)
I feel like that's a spin-off, yeah? Yeah, the prequel, yeah.
Matt (31:23.866)
Mm hmm. Sure.
Luciano (31:23.95)
Ah, is that why all the tacos from Taco Bell suck because nobody plays the piano there? Okay, start a tag song. Check out. Phrasing. When you're fingering those stuffed peppers, gotta do it right. I'm sorry.
Spencer (31:29.927)
I mean, yeah, of course.
Matt (31:31.918)
If your fingering isn't tight, can't roll a taco properly.
Joel (31:35.304)
Wow, you got a lot of place for that.
Spencer (31:37.417)
As Matt said, if your fingering ain't right, it won't be good for the taco.
Matt (31:46.874)
You're welcome. I, I just said words. You made it sexual.
Spencer (31:47.773)
Why do you gotta make it all sexual, Luciano? What's sexual about saying you need to be good at fingering to please the taco? I don't understand.
Luciano (31:55.936)
You
Matt (31:56.08)
It's fine
Matt (32:00.763)
I don't understand the question. I do have a different one though. Why were so many mascots made into sentient robots? Because it's, the premise they put forward is these guys do the jobs that no humans wanted, right? So the janitors, the garbage men, et cetera, et cetera. But like, I'm pretty sure if someone's like, hey man, dress up as a peanut and dance around, that's probably safer to have as a human. Yeah. Right?
Spencer (32:22.419)
We'll pay you minimum wage. How much are they saving? And how many times do you need a centi of peanut? how many fairs is this f****g peanut going to? Like you do the commercials. You do some restaurants. You go to the restaurant a couple times.
Luciano (32:26.972)
Hahaha!
Matt (32:38.512)
Yep. You sure? a state fair too?
Spencer (32:43.687)
Yeah, do you need a full-time sentient robot to do this job? Or do you get fucking Matt in a peanut costume for $50 an hour?
Joel (32:44.487)
You said that.
Luciano (32:55.964)
I mean...
Joel (32:56.24)
It's yeah.
Luciano (32:59.714)
Go ahead. I got nothing.
Joel (33:01.672)
I don't know what.
Matt (33:01.678)
He broke Joel's brain. His brain is shattered.
Spencer (33:03.423)
Just like, hey!
Joel (33:04.168)
I was going to say, I know when I stopped, I was like, I have no idea of anything either because it just seems like a tremendous waste of.
Spencer (33:10.753)
I just picture like the corporations being like, our mascot costs are through the roof. Not our production, not our cost of goods. It's the mascot costs. It's everything.
Joel (33:11.782)
everything.
Matt (33:23.618)
Is it possible that Mr. Peanut or other sentient mascots didn't just, you're right Spencer, they would only have 15 appearances throughout the year. So is it possible that when he wasn't he was shoveling peanuts into the roaster non-stop?
Spencer (33:38.908)
you think they're like they were like working in the the factories, but they wanted them to be on brand.
Luciano (33:39.881)
Probably.
Joel (33:40.904)
That makes sense, it doesn't.
Luciano (33:42.722)
That's what they allude to,
Matt (33:43.598)
Yeah. Yeah.
Joel (33:45.704)
It doesn't feel like being a mascot and being out there at these state fairs constitutes horrible treatment that the robots would want to uprise against. So you're right, there's got to be another story about how they were actually mistreated.
Matt (33:54.424)
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, if you're the king of the peanut city, like, why would you want to uprise?
Luciano (34:00.782)
Like, imagine what it took for that French chef bot to fucking smash, to fucking crack me up. Zutala! I was like, angry. Yeah.
Joel (34:11.463)
Yeah.
Matt (34:12.223)
Hahaha
Spencer (34:16.809)
You know what? This explanation makes a lot of sense. I can dig on this. But why do need a baseball pitching machine to be sentient? We already have baseball pitching machines.
Matt (34:28.462)
Nah, it's cause they don't need coaches anymore. The baseball pitching machine hits you in the groin with the baseball and then yells at you how you were wrong.
Luciano (34:28.558)
They're called players
Luciano (34:38.093)
Hahaha!
Spencer (34:38.173)
But that's like a fun job. I want to throw baseballs people and tell them that they're wrong. We don't need robots for those jobs. The robots should be like the ones like in the mines.
Joel (34:48.064)
It does feel like all the starring robots that were in the last battles or were the ones that survived this war were the more mascot-y that did not do any of the hard labour that apparently was done.
Luciano (34:48.834)
Picking the balls.
Matt (34:56.388)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (35:00.046)
you're saying they're like the celebrities of the robot world.
Joel (35:03.836)
They were the celebrities. Yeah.
Matt (35:04.226)
Yeah, the hardest working one was probably the mail bot, right?
Luciano (35:09.742)
And even then...
Spencer (35:10.173)
Yeah, Mailbot I can get behind, I feel like there's better ways.
Joel (35:13.8)
The mailbox.
Spencer (35:17.021)
I mean, I feel like if you're gonna make a mailbox, you'd make it like a drone. But.
Luciano (35:22.22)
Well, yeah, that's that's the thing, right? Like they are made to be cute or human like when it's like not the more the most like efficient way of doing that shit at all. It's like, yeah, let's make this let's spend all this money to make it look like a human driving some sort of a cart or whatever. Instead of just making a box that drives.
Matt (35:41.764)
You think Walt Disney wanted a box to drive around or some sexy female robot with a big old cart?
Luciano (35:50.158)
That's true. But, but, but hold on, hold on. If that, if that were the case, shouldn't they all have like German accents?
Spencer (35:50.321)
big ol' Got a great cart!
Joel (35:52.04)
That's a big old...
Matt (35:59.514)
No,
Spencer (36:01.083)
Can't be that on the nose.
Luciano (36:01.292)
No?
Matt (36:02.765)
No, they have German mode.
Luciano (36:06.286)
it's hidden. It's a hidden switch.
Spencer (36:06.505)
Activate German mode.
Joel (36:06.906)
in German mode. Press a little button, a little swastika turn button.
Matt (36:12.59)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You just press this welcome button.
Spencer (36:16.137)
The Tesla logo pops out.
Joel (36:16.483)
Hahaha!
Luciano (36:17.974)
They all have one, all models have one. It's under the skirt. That's where you find it.
Joel (36:20.424)
Yeah.
Spencer (36:25.161)
What were the other robots? was the taco one, the baseball one.
Matt (36:25.218)
and then they go full right.
Yeah. The hair cutting one.
Joel (36:32.173)
Her was like the construction bot, right? He had a bunch of different like add-ons.
Spencer (36:32.455)
Haircutting.
Luciano (36:35.022)
Yeah, actually probably the only one that makes some sort of sense because he has like he can get into like the really big one to do heavy jobs and like small one to do a small job. It's probably the only one that makes sense. Yeah, my trios. Yeah, German Russian. But yeah, close. Yeah, it's Europe.
Matt (36:44.194)
is herm.
Joel (36:45.362)
Yes,
Spencer (36:45.417)
He could German doll it.
Joel (36:48.996)
Thank you.
Matt (36:50.288)
You
Joel (36:52.104)
Russian, but close enough. It's one of those Eastern European.
Spencer (36:53.575)
No, German doll. That was intentional.
Luciano (36:57.23)
Sure.
Yeah.
Spencer (37:00.265)
I mean, yeah, you guys are making me like have some plausible deniability for why they, I mean, obviously like the concept art is just them drawing a bunch of like fucking mascots fighting people.
Matt (37:11.856)
sure, but but I think that's the thing what like as Our society is barreling towards corporations owning everything a la Blade Runner what if everybody in the electric state was like secretly planning for the The chain wars or the capitalism wars The corporate wars fragile. Yeah, so and so like they were all like listen
Luciano (37:36.258)
The Carpool Wars.
Spencer (37:36.275)
Fratrides Wars.
Luciano (37:41.07)
the franchise wars from demolition? Yeah.
Spencer (37:44.682)
Yes.
Joel (37:45.293)
The chain word, that's a Taco Bell one, and there's the Taco Bell Taco Box. It all comes back together.
Matt (37:45.665)
Yes, the chain of horrors. That's right. In this timeline, Mr. Peanut's like, they're not gonna use peanuts on tacos. That's bullshit. We're making ourselves a champion to defend ourselves against Taco Bell.
Joel (37:52.72)
and
Luciano (37:54.007)
Yeah, yeah.
Spencer (37:56.408)
Yeah Again, this is a much better story like McDonald's is like when that McDonald's logo goes on the battlefield I want him to be the greatest killer known to man
Luciano (38:05.822)
Yeah, I want those arches just red, no yellow, all red.
Matt (38:05.86)
You
It's the... Grimace is a human bomb. Or sorry, animatronic bomb.
Joel (38:15.964)
human bones.
Luciano (38:19.608)
The Hamburgler? Yeah. Yeah.
Spencer (38:19.773)
The Hamburglar will steal your innards!
Matt (38:22.512)
That's right. That's why McDonald's has such a large cast of characters. Their standing army was much richer.
Joel (38:23.378)
Ha ha.
Spencer (38:25.865)
no, here comes the clown! Ronald McDonald!
Luciano (38:27.68)
It, yeah, it's a, it's like a adventuring party.
Matt (38:32.826)
Ha ha ha
Luciano (38:34.2)
Yeah.
Matt (38:36.4)
haha
Matt (38:39.972)
Yeah.
Luciano (38:40.071)
Once again, that is a better movie than what
Spencer (38:44.713)
Now I just want a that's just the franchise wars. Which is all the corporations going to war. That'd be sick. And they're all like really badass looking robots but like in the color and style of different brands, you know?
Joel (38:48.584)
franchise like
Luciano (38:49.038)
I'd watch that. I'd watch that.
Matt (38:51.568)
Luciano (38:58.862)
Yeah, yeah like with logos like like NASCAR cars like logos everywhere
Matt (38:59.193)
and present.
Spencer (39:02.705)
Yeah, just like the Burger King, like, like a Burger King mask on like a robot. Yeah, that's a movie.
Matt (39:02.821)
Yep.
Joel (39:09.062)
King.
Luciano (39:10.807)
Yeah.
Hahaha
Matt (39:14.98)
Just thousands of Burger King's masks. Just like a plastic mask stapled onto a robot face.
Spencer (39:16.809)
And then.
And then he says the famous Burger King franchise that I don't know. Whopper this.
Joel (39:22.216)
That can be creepy.
Luciano (39:28.302)
I'm gonna I'm about to drop a whopper or something. That sounds like he's taking a shit. I don't know why I said that I Mean that might be a move. I don't know Yeah
Spencer (39:32.583)
What? I think they're taking a shit.
Matt (39:33.678)
I mean, that's why.
Matt (39:39.505)
I have a semi, well that's not serious, we've talked about Walt Disney and his Nazi robots, but I really do want to know why in this movie he's like, Walt Disney created the anthropomorphic, I guess it's the animatronics, right? The animatronics for his parks, and they go yada yada, and they rolled them off the assam, that's production. Well, like, what were the steps? Yeah.
Luciano (39:45.556)
Hahaha!
Luciano (39:56.322)
Yeah. Right.
Mass production. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Spencer (40:02.761)
Yeah. Yeah. Everyone in America had one.
Luciano (40:07.486)
Yeah.
Matt (40:08.378)
What were the steps in between from the animatronics to like, need MESPERDUS robots for the entire universe? Fair enough. Yeah, obviously.
Spencer (40:14.621)
You see, when the Nazis opened the Ark of the Covenant, they got access to a power greater than anyone had ever expected. They put that soul into their machines. I think that's the only explanation.
Cause correct me I'm wrong, the animatronics that Walt Disney made were not sentience, if I recall correctly.
Luciano (40:34.861)
Nope.
Joel (40:35.545)
No.
Matt (40:36.292)
Not specifically, no.
Luciano (40:37.78)
they I don't I don't think they even qualify as robots they're not even robot there you go because the because the Nazis had the whole occultism thing right the occult thing so they're not they're not electronic they're haunted they I think possessed by the ghost of gobbles I think that's that's what happens there
Spencer (40:38.365)
They're haunted.
Matt (40:47.098)
Wait a second.
Spencer (40:55.997)
you
Matt (40:56.144)
Wow, what animatronic did gobbles go into specifically? Alright, fair enough, just checking.
Joel (40:59.498)
You
Spencer (40:59.689)
You know I Thought there were the you know they're around the world Disney ride It's a small world after all all of those guys His greatest nightmare he became every race
Luciano (41:00.672)
Mr. Peanut. I mean, I mean.
Luciano (41:13.088)
hahahaha
Matt (41:14.04)
that was good. Okay. Fair enough.
Matt (41:18.97)
you
Luciano (41:20.721)
My purity!
Matt (41:22.832)
you
Luciano (41:26.446)
no.
Matt (41:28.854)
at them. Now that we were talking about electric state where why did Walt Disney build robots and make them sentient. Joel, you have any other reason why Walt Disney wanted sentient robots?
Spencer (41:30.121)
Hehehehehe
Luciano (41:32.398)
Yeah.
Spencer (41:34.185)
Yeah.
Joel (41:46.78)
No, I got nothing. You guys said so much. just, I just, yeah, my mind is blown with all these.
Luciano (41:47.915)
Hahaha
Spencer (41:47.945)
Alright, moving on.
Matt (41:48.144)
Great. Bye.
Luciano (41:50.616)
Okay.
Spencer (41:53.053)
the
Matt (42:00.421)
Yeah, that's a pretty easy jump, honestly.
Joel (42:00.506)
I wouldn't dare.
Luciano (42:03.766)
Yeah. If it follows so easily, right? It's a, yeah, it's almost obvious.
Matt (42:09.508)
All right, let's ask Joel this question if we're gonna make it easy. Herm, we see Herm, he has three layers, the really big one and then a much smaller one and then a tiny one. What was the other layer?
Joel (42:13.202)
Yeah, okay.
Joel (42:21.544)
No, he's got four layers.
Luciano (42:22.552)
Four, four, no, four. Four layers, yeah. He has like a really big one, a slightly smaller one, the regular one, and then the tiny one. Yeah.
Joel (42:26.598)
He's got the... Yeah. And then the mini one at the end.
Matt (42:31.952)
So did he use the big one that was the he used to walk across the desert to fly top? No, that's, that, that, the car, no?
Luciano (42:35.53)
It's when he was throwing cars around.
Joel (42:36.198)
The big, yeah, that was not the biggest one, was there?
Spencer (42:38.194)
No.
Luciano (42:41.263)
no, the biggest one was when he was carrying them on the van. Yeah, yeah. No.
Spencer (42:44.179)
when you when you know the biggest one was the one he was throwing cars with
Joel (42:44.23)
yeah, yeah, okay.
Matt (42:44.408)
I thought those were the same.
Yeah.
Luciano (42:49.646)
Yeah, because he gets destroyed and then he comes out of it with the slightly less big one. And then that one gets destroyed. He gets out and then that one gets destroyed and the tiny one comes out. It's four. Yeah.
Matt (42:59.397)
So four, he's got four layers, but those that we see.
Joel (43:01.352)
He's got four, yeah, he four.
Luciano (43:04.871)
Joel (43:05.458)
Now we see, you're thinking there's a smaller one in there somewhere?
Matt (43:08.226)
Well listen, I want to know how many layers there are in total. Is there a bigger one hiding somewhere? Is there a smaller one inside him? Like what's Herm's deal?
Luciano (43:17.422)
Stuffing peppers inside it.
Joel (43:18.418)
Do you want me to tell you what Hapsteel is?
Matt (43:21.296)
Yeah, that's exactly the question. What is Herm's deal?
Spencer (43:23.081)
Tell me what Herb's deal is.
Joel (43:24.808)
Tell me what, I thought you were going to make an easy one for me. You want me to create a backstory for her?
Luciano (43:25.022)
What? What's the deal with her?
Matt (43:33.36)
Not, not, first of all, first of all, it's not creating, it's just telling us what was shown to you in the visual medium of film.
Luciano (43:34.038)
I mean, you don't have to do that.
Joel (43:37.691)
Okay.
Spencer (43:43.229)
how many layers does he have? How many onion layers?
Matt (43:44.91)
Yeah, and how many layers does he have?
Joel (43:48.54)
How many onion layers could you, could you peel back? mean, I think there was another two or three in there. I think that was what's that? Yeah. Small. Well, I don't think it makes any sense to go bigger. There's no practical application for having a 300 foot robot. mean, but I think what you think, you think I'm wrong. I just think there's so much you could do with a little mini robot, like go in and, you know, as a, you'll solve medical problems and medical, you know, ailments. That's one.
Matt (43:53.582)
All right, and smaller and smaller, right?
Matt (44:02.082)
Okay, that's a great point.
Spencer (44:02.659)
that's where you're wrong, sir.
Matt (44:12.015)
Yes.
Spencer (44:16.487)
going straight to the colonoscopy? Straight to the colonoscopy. I was thinking like screw little screws, you know, go into the foundation of a building. He is a construction bot.
Matt (44:18.564)
Hahaha!
Luciano (44:18.678)
Yeah, of course.
Joel (44:18.77)
Go straight to the call-in guy, go straight up the ass, find that Taco Bell.
Luciano (44:21.71)
You
Joel (44:26.888)
Oh, you could do screw. Yeah, you could do screw little screws as well. True. Yeah. I mean, but hey, he doesn't have to be limited by the, start, but yes, I guess you could screw many screws or. This is, this is exactly why there was an uprising. They limited what he was able to do and he felt wronged by that.
Luciano (44:27.214)
You can do that too.
Matt (44:30.671)
Yeah.
Matt (44:36.984)
Alright Mr. Peanut, keep it chill out.
Spencer (44:38.249)
He's more than just a machine! He can check colons! If you let him!
Luciano (44:39.125)
Hahaha!
Matt (44:42.693)
Yeah.
Luciano (44:52.788)
they stereotyped him, they typecast him.
Matt (44:54.042)
So we would like-
Joel (44:54.352)
He stereotyped it, yeah, dumb old construction, but that's all he was capable of.
Matt (44:59.44)
Yeah, we would have put let Herm go up people's butts there wouldn't have been a robot war.
Joel (45:03.656)
I had a dream to find Taco Bell in someone's ass.
Spencer (45:03.881)
I had a dream! A dream that I could look at people's colons!
Spencer (45:11.401)
Full circle
Matt (45:12.346)
If only he knew Taco-Bot before the war could have solved these problems.
Spencer (45:15.593)
Who's to say they didn't? Someone say, prequel?
Joel (45:15.877)
Yeah.
Luciano (45:16.0)
Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Matt (45:20.784)
Spencer (45:22.377)
yeah, but I also think he could go bigger. I don't think there's a limit.
Matt (45:25.454)
Alright.
Joel (45:26.088)
Well, what's he going to do with it as a bigger box?
Spencer (45:29.641)
he could make buildings.
Matt (45:34.394)
Yeah. Gotcha.
Spencer (45:37.065)
He could fight Godzilla when the time comes. King Kong. It's called Pacific Rim. Have ever heard of it?
Luciano (45:37.102)
You could demolish buildings.
Matt (45:41.07)
Yeah, or Ken Kong.
Joel (45:41.128)
Cut, okay.
Luciano (45:42.024)
I would watch that.
Joel (45:47.752)
Pacific Rim another awesome movie
Matt (45:49.136)
Ha ha ha ha.
Spencer (45:51.385)
Yeah, and eventually he could go into space and become Galactus. Guys, open up your minds! Cross over all I'm waiting for.
Matt (46:00.241)
crossover. Herm is Galactus.
Luciano (46:01.774)
The crossover
Joel (46:01.864)
I must say I think it would have been limited by the battery technology, which did seem like another...
Matt (46:11.246)
Wow, Mr. Peanut.
Luciano (46:11.982)
He was the only one who was limited by battery because nobody else talks about it.
Joel (46:14.0)
No
He was the only one that they had to plug in, right? And his average normal size self had to steal the power from Chris Pratt who couldn't, you all his food went rotten. And that was, the only time. Yet he kept growing bigger and bigger and that was never a problem. And he could walk them across the desert and he had lots of battery then, so.
Luciano (46:19.595)
Yeah, yeah.
Luciano (46:30.445)
Yeah.
Matt (46:32.878)
That's correct.
Luciano (46:32.992)
It's almost like it was just a plot point to make a funny haha joke and it never came up again.
Joel (46:36.72)
I think that yeah, comic relief.
Matt (46:38.186)
No, movies don't do that. No. Alright, so the answer is many more layers. Yeah. Yeah, he could go down and fight Ant-Man in the Quantum universe.
Spencer (46:39.399)
Yo, come on.
Luciano (46:40.267)
I'd never do that.
Spencer (46:46.386)
Infinity.
Joel (46:47.044)
Many, many layers.
Luciano (46:47.668)
Infinity really. Yeah.
Spencer (46:51.901)
Some say all matter is made up of herm.
Matt (46:55.236)
Mm-hmm. We're all herms.
Luciano (46:55.459)
Ha
Joel (46:55.848)
That's up, Z.
Spencer (46:58.121)
hahahaha
Matt (47:00.976)
extremely different question, but along the same lines, but different. What did Keats mean when he said, I love you more than a friend to Herm. I love you as more than a friend, I believe was the quote.
Spencer (47:17.875)
think he meant Herm is like his god-king, because Herm is everything and Herm is nothing. He is all matter and all being. So to Keats he was the All-Father.
Luciano (47:29.134)
So he loved him like a deity is what you're saying. Okay, just checking.
Spencer (47:32.763)
Obviously. Did anybody watch this movie?
Spencer (47:39.303)
That's what he said, I want you inside me. He he wanted to colonize with me.
Luciano (47:42.594)
Wait, he said that? What? Which movie did you watch? I see. It was implied.
Matt (47:44.144)
He said that with his eyes, we all saw it.
Joel (47:44.493)
Wait, he wanted to call it. Yeah, yeah, he's like...
Spencer (47:48.009)
Yeah
Joel (47:53.192)
I the guy spent his time, you know, isolated with just surround with her for how many years? Years and years like.
Spencer (47:53.309)
Well, that was just my take.
Matt (47:59.505)
So, Herm was just off his heart to him?
Joel (48:01.99)
Yeah, well, mean, yeah, just familiarity, right? It's the closest thing, OK? OK, lack of options. OK, Hermit is.
Matt (48:07.024)
So then he sees Mr. Peter, and he's like, whoa.
Spencer (48:09.097)
Look at those curves!
Luciano (48:09.4)
Yeah.
Matt (48:13.808)
YOWZA!
Luciano (48:14.012)
Hahaha!
Spencer (48:15.177)
I wanna see those nuts! That southern drawl really does something!
Joel (48:16.168)
You
that southern old man accent really does it for me.
Joel (48:27.752)
I'll see you there.
Luciano (48:29.364)
And, ooh.
Bank me up and call me property, baby.
Spencer (48:36.745)
What?
Matt (48:37.464)
Moving on.
Joel (48:38.376)
What the hell was that?
Matt (48:41.568)
Moving on, do we have any real answers as to why this movie cost $300 plus million?
Luciano (48:42.286)
Uhhh...
Luciano (48:49.65)
I think Spencer said it's called Monday Nodding.
Spencer (48:54.385)
other than money laundering.
Matt (48:54.906)
But other than my.
Luciano (48:57.422)
Hmm.
Matt (48:59.472)
Like, if I gave, let me ask you this differently. Well, like, if I was to say, hey, here's $300 million. Make me a robot movie.
Luciano (49:01.942)
Like where did it go? that where you're asking like?
Spencer (49:07.721)
Mm-hmm.
Matt (49:13.528)
Like, what would you do?
Luciano (49:15.63)
Not that.
Matt (49:17.102)
How many movies could you make?
Joel (49:17.116)
Not, yeah, I mean.
Spencer (49:19.817)
Pocket 200 and then make this movie
Luciano (49:19.82)
Hahaha
Joel (49:20.445)
A lot.
How many plots did we come up with?
Joel (49:27.336)
Yeah, you can can literally like piss away 100 billion or 200 million dollars and still have 100 million dollars to probably make a half decent movie.
Spencer (49:34.377)
I mean, $100 million to make a pretty fucking good movie. mean, fucking Terminator 2 was made $100 million, I think.
Joel (49:37.244)
Yeah, killer movie.
Luciano (49:37.697)
Yeah, yeah.
Matt (49:42.352)
So we can make Herm and Taco Bot a love story? Yeah.
Spencer (49:46.397)
prequel, the one that we always want to see. No, like I'm actually genuinely trying to think where that money went. So you got Chris Pratt.
Luciano (49:46.582)
Yeah, I love Starry for sure.
Joel (49:54.908)
Yeah, how much did he get paid?
Luciano (49:55.245)
Yeah.
Matt (49:55.281)
The cast is unnecessarily stacked.
Luciano (49:58.062)
Pretty stacked. True, yeah.
Spencer (49:59.881)
But it's not stacked to the point where it should be. Like these guys made Avengers Infinity War. This is not like that kind of stack. It's got like.
Joel (50:05.51)
No, I agree with you.
Luciano (50:08.972)
Yeah, but
Matt (50:10.224)
But those people are all locked in the contracts on my marvel.
Spencer (50:13.001)
Yeah, fine, but you gotta think of
Luciano (50:13.366)
Yeah. And you have like Stanley Tucci, you have Anthony Mackie, have Chris Pratt, you have... Yeah. This is the best character in the whole damn movie. Let's put it that way. Yeah, Alan. Yeah. I mean, Holly Hunter. Come on. Holly Hunter appears. If Chris was here, he'd say she Laura Dern the fuck out of this movie.
Spencer (50:20.605)
Was Anthony Mackie Herm? I never knew that.
Matt (50:22.98)
Yeah. You have Alan Tadiuk. You have Holly Hunter. You have...
Joel (50:30.344)
Apparently Chris Pat made...
Spencer (50:30.729)
Okay, you guys are saying this like... Yeah.
Matt (50:39.61)
That's fair, but-
Spencer (50:40.263)
I'm sorry guys, you have $300 million you're trying to justify. You're telling Holly Hunter? How much of the budget is Holly Hunter getting?
Joel (50:43.74)
Yeah. Yeah. Apparently Chris Pratt, Chris Pratt made $20 million and Millie Bobby Brown made $5 million. So nobody made more than Chris Pratt and probably nobody else made more than Millie Bobby Brown at $5 million. can't, know, for all those. So yeah, that does not come anywhere close to a hundred million dollars. They made him, you know, so.
Matt (50:48.356)
Well, jaw, how much did, yeah. And so.
Classic patriarchy.
Luciano (51:07.222)
Yeah, I have to think it's the CG.
Spencer (51:09.673)
John Carlo Esposito probably got $500,000? One, probably one.
Matt (51:13.483)
One. Maybe a mil.
Joel (51:15.324)
How much did Stanley Tucci get? Like a couple million?
Luciano (51:18.221)
Maybe.
Matt (51:18.223)
Yeah.
Spencer (51:18.697)
There's no way he got a couple million dollars. Stanley Tucci? It doesn't matter. you know what? Actors don't get paid millions unless they're starring roles.
Matt (51:22.34)
Well, I've just...
Luciano (51:22.584)
What do mean? He was the main villain! Yeah!
Joel (51:24.709)
Stammy Tucci!
Matt (51:25.839)
Yeah.
Matt (51:32.784)
Spencer, movies don't cost $300 plus million dollars unless you're wasting money.
Luciano (51:35.533)
Yeah.
Spencer (51:35.913)
Sorry, Holly Hunter got paid 15 million for this movie. Who negotiated this contract?
Matt (51:40.506)
Yeah.
Luciano (51:40.644)
Hahaha!
Yeah.
Joel (51:44.616)
No, you're right. I'm just reading as we go along. Stanley Tucci only made $700,000. I stand corrected, Spencer. You are quite correct. Brian Cox got a million dollars.
Spencer (51:50.449)
Yeah, 100%. And that's probably the biggest paycheck he's ever gotten.
Luciano (51:55.406)
So like, so like probably ending up all of the like the actors salaries or pay doesn't even get to near 100 million.
Spencer (52:06.181)
No, it's less than 40.
Luciano (52:10.136)
That has to be the CG then that they used the money for.
Joel (52:13.192)
Well, I guess it has to be, still that seems like an insane amount of money to spend on CGI. What's that, $250 million? Maybe not quite that much.
Matt (52:19.472)
Okay, so like what's, well what was end game, right? Like how much did end game cost?
Spencer (52:22.897)
You
Luciano (52:28.878)
If it wasn't 300 million, I'd tell you that for free.
Matt (52:32.016)
356 million nice job Luciano but
Luciano (52:34.463)
really? Okay.
Joel (52:36.936)
but the actor cost would have been a lot.
Spencer (52:37.457)
It's fucking endgame.
Matt (52:39.472)
It was endgame. The actor cost would have been high because all those characters had been in multiple movies. There's so many but like They basically spent endgame money to make this fucking Netflix track release. Yeah
Luciano (52:39.917)
Yeah.
Luciano (52:43.394)
There's so many, so many. Yeah, yeah.
Joel (52:47.078)
Yeah, they're all, multiple millions for each of them.
Spencer (52:53.031)
which is baffling, just baffling.
Luciano (52:53.774)
Hahaha
Joel (52:56.072)
Yeah, you're right. is 100 % money laundering. I don't think we even need to spend any more time on this. Like it's clear.
Spencer (53:00.105)
It's either that or they bought a country to film there. They wanted to film on location so they
Luciano (53:01.065)
Hahaha
Luciano (53:07.762)
Maybe they actually built the actual exclusion zone, like physically.
Spencer (53:12.583)
They built the electric state.
Luciano (53:15.466)
there you go.
Joel (53:15.528)
Yeah.
Matt (53:15.888)
I mean, I just think the Russo brothers are money launderers because it costs 200 million to make the gray man. It costs 200 million to make the gray man.
Spencer (53:19.753)
This is not, this is all alleged. Alleged wandering.
Joel (53:20.955)
We're back to the, there we go.
Luciano (53:25.614)
no, there is no way. What the f- Why did they spend $200 million on that? On making sure fucking Ryan Gosling didn't smile? Is that what they did?
Joel (53:25.702)
They cut 200 million to make the gray man.
Spencer (53:37.349)
No, but Grey Man had Gosling, Ana de Armas, wasn't, who else was in that? Reynolds? Chris Evans.
Luciano (53:42.638)
Still, dude, Chris Evans.
Joel (53:44.712)
Still though.
And how much CGI could there have been in that, right? Like there wasn't like an insane amount. So how much, how much do Russos get paid for this, these movies? Like got that included in that budget? Like they get 150 million.
Luciano (53:52.735)
No.
Maybe they just have a really bad ketamine problem, I don't know.
Spencer (54:02.877)
This... This scene's gonna need at least 10 kilos of cocaine.
Luciano (54:07.024)
Yeah, that would explain it.
Joel (54:07.179)
Hahaha!
Matt (54:07.28)
They spent $54 million to make Yumi and Dupree in 2006.
Joel (54:16.648)
54 million with actors who were not even like stars at that time? Yeah.
Luciano (54:20.15)
Okay, their laundry money. There's no...
Matt (54:20.464)
Yeah. Okay. Allegedly.
Spencer (54:25.403)
Allegedly.
Joel (54:27.651)
What, do you think we're either a lawyer?
Spencer (54:28.105)
Yeah, I'm our lawyer
Luciano (54:28.204)
No, I stand by what I said, fuck it. Nobody listens to this shit anyway.
Matt (54:29.648)
Yes, that's just our lawyer. We don't we don't do well in lawsuits
Joel (54:33.928)
yeah, yeah. You don't want us to get sued?
Luciano (54:36.782)
you
Spencer (54:37.833)
Our one listener is a rep for Disney.
Matt (54:42.062)
Yeah.
Luciano (54:42.734)
It's the Russo Brothers agent.
Matt (54:46.48)
Alright, we dragged the Roosevelt's long enough. Let's finish this off. Let's give our reviews for the electric state. If anybody in this podcast doesn't remember how it works, because apparently they don't fucking subscribe or listen, it is S tier system. S is the highest, F is the lowest. After S it's A, B, E, We'll make you go not first, just in case you're listening to this. Tell us what you thought of the movie and give it a rank. Not Joel. Let's go Luciano.
Spencer (54:59.229)
Luciano.
Luciano (55:09.166)
Pfft.
Joel (55:10.642)
Right check notes, I'm not listening anymore.
Luciano (55:15.406)
Okay, despite the last what hour we've been talking our change we've been talking I Actually had fun watching this movie. I'm not gonna see stand here and say it's a good movie. It was fun Yeah, he's not here
Matt (55:26.896)
I believe Chris would say, BOO THIS MAN!
Spencer (55:29.671)
You just empathize with robots because you are one.
Matt (55:33.466)
Mr. Peanut.
Luciano (55:34.734)
I'm not Mr. Peanut.
Joel (55:34.94)
We now know where the $300 million went is it to pay off Luciano and his review.
Matt (55:39.364)
Yeah, worth it.
Spencer (55:39.561)
Yeah, exactly. Netflix chill. You're a chill.
Luciano (55:39.628)
There you go. Yeah. I'm so, the influential review that I make.
Joel (55:44.232)
Yeah
Luciano (55:47.498)
I enjoyed the movie, like, I wish we've gotten a better story. I like the world building. It was funny. Actually laughed out loud a couple of times with some of the scenes. No, I actually, no, honestly, that fight in the parking lot of Center, I was actually laughing pretty hard at that because it's so dumb and so, like, I don't think this movie takes itself seriously, which is good.
Spencer (55:59.783)
Now I know you're being paid.
Joel (56:02.28)
If
Luciano (56:15.448)
That being said, the story is nonsensical.
Joel (56:18.856)
Maybe that's the point. Maybe it was never supposed to be something that made sense, right?
Luciano (56:22.668)
Yeah, was like if it's just a movie where you turn your brain off and you have fun, it kind of did that. I was mad though that, you know, after they killed the brother, they made like the the Cosmo robot show up at the very end. I was like, fuck you. Yeah. So I think all in all, I'm going to give this a C.
Joel (56:29.191)
Yeah.
Joel (56:39.918)
yeah, that was completely unnecessary.
Matt (56:41.168)
Pointless.
Joel (56:47.887)
Thank
Luciano (56:48.152)
Just just I had fun. I don't know if I would watch it I probably would watch it again just to catch like more freeze-frame things or like funny bits but like this is I wouldn't recommend that someone asking me for Can I want to watch a good movie? This wouldn't be one that I would recommend. So see for me
Spencer (57:06.483)
Take your money, you whore.
Matt (57:07.244)
OK.
Luciano (57:08.65)
I will. I will.
Matt (57:11.278)
Laundered through another $300 million dollar piece of trash. Joel, what's your review?
Joel (57:14.76)
It was an S definitely an S. No. Yeah, I'm done. That's it. That's all I have to say. If Luciano could get a couple hundred million, I'm going for more. S. No, I, I, I agree with you. see it, Luciano that. Listen, the movie didn't make a lot of, if you actually thought about it, there were so many inconsistencies and gaps and you know, but yeah, in terms of just like.
Spencer (57:19.529)
Big trucks backing up. Boop, boop, boop.
Matt (57:20.516)
You learned well.
Luciano (57:20.887)
Jesus. Beep, beep, beep. Yeah.
Hahaha!
Joel (57:41.658)
entertainment and just sitting there and zoning out. If you didn't use your brain at all and just sat there and watched it, it wasn't terrible. I've definitely seen worse movies. I'd probably give it a C as well.
Matt (57:53.186)
Alright Mr. Peanut, god damn. Here's your fucking money.
Joel (57:56.52)
Why am I Mr. Peanut?
Matt (57:58.801)
Hell Satan. Spencer.
Spencer (58:02.665)
As of yet, I have not been paid and I am open to it but as Because yeah, this movie was I thought Even for background stuff so boring. I thought the first half of the movie was boring The second half of the movie was was better. But like the first half of the movie I was like, I don't even remember what? Half what's happening?
Luciano (58:07.01)
Hahaha!
Joel (58:07.112)
Hahaha
Matt (58:07.223)
Mm-hmm.
Joel (58:10.509)
You're an F for a fool.
Luciano (58:24.641)
It was. You're right.
Spencer (58:32.903)
I I kind of woke up for a bit when I saw fucking George Costanza. And I was like, whoa, hey.
Luciano (58:40.174)
Oh, we didn't even talk about that, yeah.
Joel (58:42.524)
Yeah.
Spencer (58:42.737)
I like that part. And then, yeah, like, and then I watched the whole thing supposed to be an allegory for like, waking up from like, think being on our phones and stuff. And then like we said, like at the end, she's like, don't be on go on this, the, the VR anymore, even though it's been shut down. You have no, don't go on the thing that's broken now. Well, yeah, thanks. Like, just like.
Luciano (58:58.136)
neurocaster.
Luciano (59:01.998)
Because I killed my brother.
Matt (59:02.096)
exploded.
Spencer (59:09.641)
They didn't even think this through, this is just such a forced allegory of the last scene. The whole thing just bored me. So I'm giving it a... I'm gonna go with an E. It's not quite F territory, but it felt soulless. Nothing makes me more angry than soulless fucking corporate blah! And that's it felt like.
Matt (59:34.65)
This coming from the man who loved Batman vs Superman in Justice League.
Luciano (59:41.314)
Yeah, gave Nosferatu a B.
Spencer (59:41.55)
Say what you will about that movie.
Say what you will about both those movies. They were both made by directors that were like not following the fucking corporate agenda and got fucking shit on for it. But at least it was like they were trying to do something. This is just like paint by numbers. And for a movie about AI, it feels like it's been written by it. topical.
Matt (01:00:05.849)
Luciano (01:00:06.094)
Maybe that's where the budget went, is to create the AI model that wrote this.
Joel (01:00:06.408)
Actually, think I would have done a better job than this.
Joel (01:00:14.438)
Again, money laundering.
Spencer (01:00:14.833)
It's possible. But who wrote that book? Chat GPT. Taco Bot.
Matt (01:00:16.272)
was a book, Monday Laundry. Robots. Chat, Jeffrey Person, Typewriter. I'm just going to move past that. Thank you. It's just excellent.
Luciano (01:00:18.958)
AI.
Joel (01:00:29.448)
taco.
Spencer (01:00:32.199)
Nailed it. Nailed it. No, no, no. Let's talk about that. George Person typewriter. Just blow it. Hold on. The phones are off the hook. We're getting calls. People are loving the chat GPT joke.
Joel (01:00:37.468)
The subscribers are just flowing in right now.
Matt (01:00:42.032)
Hahaha
Joel (01:00:42.674)
It's generic person typewriter.
Matt (01:00:46.938)
Ha ha ha!
Luciano (01:00:48.398)
$300 million for Matt to write to write the next the next movie on the series
Matt (01:00:51.301)
You
Joel (01:00:51.741)
You
Spencer (01:00:53.417)
Our phone lines are lighting up!
Joel (01:00:56.232)
Get this man off the air.
Matt (01:00:56.464)
I'm available, I'll take slightly less than 300 million.
Spencer (01:00:57.801)
They're saying, George Person typewriter? This guy's a madman!
Joel (01:01:05.138)
Yeah.
Matt (01:01:07.984)
So, here's the thing with the Russo brothers.
Matt (01:01:17.018)
To me, they are the spiritual successors to your favorite friends, Zack Snyder. Because they have great ideas and are really good at visuals, but no idea how to stitch them together into a coherent story. The only reason why Endgame, any adventure stuff, is a coherent story is because they were probably handed most of the story.
Spencer (01:01:27.625)
That is...
Matt (01:01:46.757)
when they went there to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so like everything else they've made since then is just been like, great idea. Listen, I'm not gonna besmirch you, me and Dupree alternate ending. I heard it's immaculate. Yeah, I've heard it's immaculate. I have no idea. But like, and so like to me, this movie, like it's,
Luciano (01:01:46.818)
They weren't on a leash. It wasn't even guardrails. They weren't on a leash, yeah.
Joel (01:01:46.858)
I agree with that.
Joel (01:01:56.85)
since then or any everything else they've made, period.
Luciano (01:02:02.914)
Hahaha
Joel (01:02:03.848)
alternate ending. Make sure you're clear about that. was only the alternate ending.
Spencer (01:02:04.745)
you
Luciano (01:02:09.995)
Ha
Joel (01:02:11.816)
I want to find it.
Matt (01:02:15.184)
I'm going to give it a D because it's a beautiful movie and I'm trying to be less of a person who looks at a movie and being mad about it or like, you didn't, there's the holes, like find the holes. But it's just boring. It's just, no, but it's just like, it's boring because like everything goes exactly how you expect it, right? Like, oh, the robots and then the humans make the robots worse.
Joel (01:02:21.478)
I see a teardrop there. It's a beautiful movie.
Spencer (01:02:28.936)
Stop attacking me!
Joel (01:02:31.865)
Hahaha
Joel (01:02:39.384)
Nothing went like you expected it to. What are you talking about?
Matt (01:02:42.48)
No, this is all paint by numbers like this, the actual story beats.
Spencer (01:02:43.805)
You predicted, did you predict that the kid was the robot brain that connected all things?
Matt (01:02:49.988)
Okay, that's okay, sure. That is a cool twist or whatever. What war?
Joel (01:02:53.36)
You predicted that the humans lost the war or the humans won the war?
The war! The war against the robots! Did you watch this movie?
Luciano (01:02:59.086)
the word they talk about yeah
Spencer (01:02:59.689)
What war?
Matt (01:02:59.92)
That's five seconds of this movie. No, but what I'm saying is like the characters and how they react. Okay. This isn't a debate.
Joel (01:03:04.008)
I know, just saying, do you believe that you're like, you understood everything? You know exactly how it was going to go. I I give you an F.
Spencer (01:03:12.713)
Did you did did you predict that it was written by Chad George person typewriter? I Didn't see that coming. They got you there
Luciano (01:03:19.054)
I'm
Matt (01:03:23.408)
You
Joel (01:03:23.677)
Hahaha
Luciano (01:03:23.854)
Excuse you, it was Jeffrey Person typewriter, not George.
Spencer (01:03:28.425)
It's Jeffrey with a G. Of course. That's the genius of it. You think J, but it's not J.
Matt (01:03:28.622)
Yeah. The G, you son of a bitch.
Joel (01:03:33.576)
I just threw the G, yeah.
Luciano (01:03:34.232)
Yeah. Joff... Joffrey!
Matt (01:03:38.34)
Yeah, you'd think George, but Jeffrey, it's really creative. It's a D, because it's it's a little, the story plot beats are rote. I yield my time.
Joel (01:03:38.61)
Chopper.
Luciano (01:03:43.213)
Yeah.
Spencer (01:03:50.503)
the cinematic version of meh.
Matt (01:03:53.177)
Yeah. Joel's not ever going to be back on this podcast ever again, but the rest of us, I did. Yeah, probably. Well, we got desperate. But for real, who knows? But next week, we are going to watch what I assume is the Cinematic Masterpiece. Captain America, is this Brave New World? Am I getting that right?
Joel (01:03:58.696)
Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Did you? I thought you were still nice after the last podcast. I thought I might be back.
Luciano (01:03:58.828)
You said that last time too.
Yeah, he did.
Joel (01:04:09.372)
Nah, fair enough. Fair enough.
Luciano (01:04:21.974)
Yeah, The brave and the bold.
Spencer (01:04:22.045)
Yeah, brave new world.
Matt (01:04:23.888)
Brave New World, the 2025...
Luciano (01:04:29.87)
Okay, let's see, pick.
Matt (01:04:30.22)
Anthony Malky
Joel (01:04:30.662)
Remake? Is it a remake? is it? Just a standalone, he just takes over from, he's the new Captain America, it's not a remake, yes.
Matt (01:04:33.412)
Vehicle? No, what do mean? It's the next Captain America movie.
Spencer (01:04:35.025)
Remake?
Luciano (01:04:35.608)
Julia Louis Dreyfus vehicle.
Matt (01:04:40.408)
Yeah, it's a remake of The Witcher Soldier. George Person typewriter plays The Witcher Soldier.
Joel (01:04:43.88)
The Witcher's Dauntlet.
Spencer (01:04:45.197)
Shot for shot! Shot for shot to save them!
Joel (01:04:48.04)
You
Luciano (01:04:51.726)
He plays George Person typewriter, plays the arm of the Winter Soldier.
Matt (01:04:55.768)
Yeah, that's right.
Spencer (01:04:57.161)
plays the arm and it's a shot for shot remake with Anthony Mackie as Captain America and people love that.
Luciano (01:05:03.067)
And as Winter Soldier, he plays both. Like he does an Eddie Murphy. He plays like seven characters in this movie.
Spencer (01:05:05.98)
We played both parts.
Matt (01:05:10.522)
Yeah, it's the, I mean, shit, Anthony Mackie vehicle, Harrison Ford vehicle. Yeah. He's, he's Thunderbolt Ross because he plays the typewriter. It's Harrison Ford is George first in typewriter.
Luciano (01:05:18.232)
Tarzan Forte in it?
General Ross?
Spencer (01:05:22.313)
he plays the typewriter which plays the arm of the winter soldier it's all you gotta see it you know yeah it's it's you gotta see it and then it that's the crazy part is it works
Luciano (01:05:25.064)
hahahaha
Luciano (01:05:30.136)
There you go. It's all connected, yeah.
Hahaha!
Matt (01:05:41.666)
It works somehow. But yeah, next week we're going to watch that and talk about Captain America Brave New World, the newest Marvel movie from 2025.
Spencer (01:05:51.079)
movie.
Joel (01:05:53.032)
Based on your track record of picking movies, I'm glad I'm never invited back.
Matt (01:05:58.192)
You're welcome.
Joel (01:05:58.46)
Just a couple parting shots here.
Spencer (01:06:00.526)
Wow, that's something only a brother could say and live to tell the tale.
Matt (01:06:01.008)
Now
I didn't pick this movie so I don't know why you're getting mad at me.
Luciano (01:06:07.618)
Yeah you did? What are you talking about? You did pick this movie you son of a bitch.
Joel (01:06:08.177)
No, didn't.
Joel (01:06:12.059)
Ha ha ha!
Matt (01:06:14.928)
Sure.
Spencer (01:06:15.283)
Listen, Joel got paid to give this movie a C, so I don't know what he's complaining about.
Matt (01:06:19.423)
Yeah, you got good money.
Luciano (01:06:19.502)
That is true. What do mean? We both gave it a C. It's 150 million each.
Joel (01:06:20.24)
Not as much as Luciano, but...
I know, but you got paid more, I'm pretty sure.
Luciano (01:06:27.896)
Okay, sure.
Matt (01:06:29.828)
Okay, well anyways, goodbye.
Joel (01:06:33.276)
And
